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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 08:33 AM
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WSJ (aka Murdoch) threatens Republicans
Edited on Wed Jul-27-11 08:37 AM by kpete
The GOP's Reality Test
Republicans who oppose Boehner's debt deal are playing into Obama's hands.

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The debt-limit debate is heading toward a culmination, with President Obama reduced to pleading for the public to support a tax increase and Speaker John Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid releasing competing plans that are the next-to-last realistic options. The question now is whether House Republicans are going to help Mr. Boehner achieve significant progress, or, in the name of the unachievable, hand Mr. Obama a victory.

Mr. Obama recognizes these stakes, threatening yesterday to veto the Boehner plan in a tactical move to block any Democratic support. The White House is afraid that it will pass the House and then become the only debt-ceiling vehicle if Mr. Reid can't get 60 votes for his own proposal in the Senate. This would short-circuit Mr. Obama's plan to blame the GOP for a U.S. credit downgrade, any market turmoil, a possible default, and the lousy economy too.

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The Speaker has made mistakes in his debt negotiations, not least in trusting that Mr. Obama wants serious fiscal reforms. But thanks to the President's overreaching on taxes, Mr. Boehner now has the GOP positioned in sight of a political and policy victory. If his plan or something close to it becomes law, Democrats will have conceded more spending cuts than they thought possible, and without getting the GOP to raise taxes and without being able to blame Republicans for a debt-limit crackup or economic damage.

If conservatives defeat the Boehner plan, they'll not only undermine their House majority. They'll go far to re-electing Mr. Obama and making the entitlement state that much harder to reform.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903591104576470061986837494.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 08:35 AM
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1. It seems to me that they're actually speaking for the mainstream GOP and threatening teabaggers. n/t
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 08:35 AM
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2. I thought it was the teabaggers opposing Boehner's plan...
Edited on Wed Jul-27-11 08:38 AM by hlthe2b
Seems then that WSJ is speaking against the teabaggers?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 08:40 AM
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3. Yes, to the teabaggers. Note "hand Mr. Obama a victory"
Edited on Wed Jul-27-11 08:54 AM by emulatorloo
One of the thing that drives the "True Beleiver" teabaggers is their hatred of that Socialist Obama

"Logic" presented by this editorial:

If Teabaggers vote for Boehner plan, Obama will "lose," if they don't Obama will "win"
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 08:42 AM
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4. wall street urinal
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 08:43 AM
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5. WTF is an entitlement state ?
They so want it to sound like "welfare state"
yet these 'entitlements' are OUR investments.... OUR money.... OUR retirements that WE paid for.

This is just a fancy way of saying ROBBERY.
These republicans are fucking crooks
and should be exiled from our great country.
Blecch !!
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 08:47 AM
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6. "Entitlement state" A new rallying cry to keep the 'little people' in their place and give every
dime to the corporations.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 01:05 PM
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7. All one hears is how either the democratic or republican
elected officials are winning or losing

I really do not care which of the elected officials win.
I am more concerned about whether the American people win or lose.
It seems that the democrats and republicans fighting over this
debt and deficit do not even see or hear the people

And as far as the news goes that just like the fight and don't care who wins
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kiranon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 01:23 PM
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8. Tea party members will vote out Boehner before they will vote for
any plan he puts forth. Don't think threatening the Tea Party members will do anything but harden their resolve to hold fast. They came to Congress to become martyrs for their cause and, if the economy tanks in the process, so be it. Maybe now, the moderate Republicans and their financial backers will see just what chaos they have created by supporting the crazy wing of the Republican Party. Religion and politics plus nationalism and racism is a very bad mix. If one thinks they can buy into just some of the mix and ignore the rest, he/she is in for a world of trouble. This is how totalitarian regimes come into power - using hate as the carrot to pull people into the maze from which there is no return.
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