A nine year old girl wanted to learn about her country's

[efhmc]

government and was murdered. She was murdered by Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, Glenn Beck and the tea party. This is the result of the hatred they spew 24/7. Their venom took root in a disturbed person and resulted in the death of 6 people. They will excuse it as free speech but anyone with a heart and brain will know the truth. Free speech is not hate speech. It does not inspire murder.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

1. Can we please find the link with this guy to Palin, Beck, etc....first?

I'm begging you, if you have proof, show it.

[efhmc]

2. Because no one spoke personally to Hitler did not mean

that a person was not a follower of his evil.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

3. We don't even know if he knows who Sarah Palin is

The guy seems to be on another planet.

[Fleshdancer]

5. and yet he managed to visit this planet long enough create a YouTube account....

...create and post his own videos, try to enlist in the Army, enroll in college, buy a gun, and plan to assassinate a member of Congress. It's hard for me to imagine he wasn't aware of the current political climate.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

10. He may very well be aware of it.....

....and he may have been influenced by the Alex Jones/Jerome Corsi/Coast To Coast AM types who reject all politicians as corrupt and the we are being controlled by the New World Order.

All I'm asking for is a video, a screed, a rant where he praises BecKKK, O'Lielly, or Palin. He may see them all as part of the corrupt "government controlled" media.

[efhmc]

6. They have created an atmosphere of hate that is pervasive.

Whether we can pinpoint them as direct culprits is moot. We are all living with their continual vilifying those with a different view of life, especially those with a non right wing view.

[valerief]

9. OMG. You're unbelieveable. Buh-bye forever! nt

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

13. Thanks for your contribution

This post will be helpful as I'm shouted down by smug right-wingers asking for proof that he was a Palin fan.

[Romulox]

29. This guy's a blank canvas for people to project the traits of their enemies on...

"He SHOT people!--it's not a far stretch to blame Glen Beck for it!" :wtf:

[kestrel91316]

24. Exactly. And Hitler never personally killed Jews, so I don't for the life of me understand

why he gets blamed for the Holocaust. It was all the fault of a few lone wolves working at those concentration camps.

[ClassWarrior]

4. Found it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=154515&mesg_id=154515

NGU.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

7. Alex Jones spews the same nonsense about the gold standard

Beck just stole that idea and got an endorsement deal out of it.

I'm telling you this guy sounds more like an Alex Jones listener than a Limpballs or BecKKK guy.

[ClassWarrior]

12. What's the difference?

I can't tell those RW freakazoid bastards apart.

NGU.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

17. Alex Jones is a freakazoid libertarian/conspiracy nut

He claims the Bushes, the Clintons, Obama, and both major parties are all in league with the New World Order/Bilderbergers etc and want forced globalization. He's a freak, but he doesn't fall in with the FAUX News propaganda machine of the Republican party.

[ClassWarrior]

21. Yes he does.

They're all bitter, hateful, rage-filled and delusional bigots.

And they need to be marginalized.

NGU.

[divine_truine]

25. Don't write AlexJones off so quickly! BARELY ANYONE WITHIN the 3 BRANCHES of GOVT...

...are willing nor able to acknowledge what is really going on behind the "neocon' curtains (as well as whose pulling the strings)! Close to everyone (reps/senators) are being hounded by lobbyists from corporate-industrial-complex trying to influence/buy their votes or worse yet those same reps/senators taking bribe$ for their vote on any given piece of legislation (i.e. recent Patient's Rights & Affordable Healthcare Act for example)...

Please revisit P.N.A.C. If y'all haven't already!

[efhmc]

27. Agreed. These people make their money by inciting people,

not by promoting give and take discussions. My way or the highway approach to talk.

[efhmc]

16. These people are not reasonable people

with a different point of view. I can and do respect that. They want to DESTROY us and use hate speech, whether intentional or not, to incite others. When they kill by default, they take no responsibility.

[Kali]

11. It would be so much easier if there was an obvious connection.

He was falling apart. Somebody should have helped him. I am sure there was rt wing spew influencing him - the whole culture is pretty violent - the "news," entertainment, multiple wars, history of wars, domestic violence. But he looks like he was REALLY sick, not just "under the influence" of the media.

[ClassWarrior]

14. Ummm... He slaughtered a half dozen people in cold blood. Really? He was sick?

Someone would have to be REALLY sick, no matter what his/her politics. One doesn't preclude the other.

NGU.

[Quantess]

19. He was apparently mentally ill.

but I'm pretty sure phD psychologists will tell you that the media can and does influence thought.

[LisaL]

20. And?

We have all kind of violent movies, books, video games- should that be illegal?

[Quantess]

22. Oh, whoops, did I jump into a discussion already underway?

I have no idea where you are coming from.
Edit to add: seriously, WTF?

[Overseas]

8. Sad K&R. //nt

[Jamastiene]

15. First rule of being a Democrat:

Expect to possibly be assassinated by Republicans and teabaggers.

That seems to be their MO. It's another of their "negotiating tactics." They quit even trying to govern. All they do is obstruct in the halls of Congress. They quit using any words but, No. They don't bother to even pretend to give a shit about this country any more. They just want to kill us.

Now, they are assassinating Democrats...again. For the last 50 years, that's what they do when Democrats try to drag this country kicking and screaming into any form of civilization or progress.

Heaven forbid we make a law that gives people a right, that they never had before. Heaven forbid we try to treat the sick or end a bullshit for profit war. Heaven forbid we try to get off the tit of a steadily dwindling supply of oil in the world and move to cleaner, greener energy. Heaven forbid we try to create some jobs and avoid a major depression in this country. Heaven forbid we do anything but let them pilfer our treasury for their rich buddies endlessly until the country is broke and has nothing left.

I am beginning to understand what Obama has been dealing with. He probably tried to give them what they wanted to avoid a repeat of the 90s. Anybody remember the 90s? It was hell. Every time Clinton tried to help the country, Republicans sent out their thugs to bomb a federal building or an abortion clinic or the Olympics, shoot doctors or start picking off people of color one by one with racist snipers.

Anyone remember JFK? RFK? MLK? Tried to give a few rights to some people who had never had those rights before and tried to give an education to some children and guess what? They were assassinated for it.

Uhm. Yeah. Some of us remember that shit. This is not isolated. This is not new. This is how they have been terrorizing Americans for about 50 years now.

[freshwest]

18. I remember all of that. It changed my life and will haunt me forever.

[Initech]

23. I'm convinced this isn't a mere shooting. It's an act of war.

And yes the hatred, vile and garbage spewed by the likes of Fux News, Glenn Beck, Palin, the tea party, etc, brought it on.

[efhmc]

26. It killed the American can-do spirit, which made us great.

And now it is killing children, regular citizens and responsible public servants.

[Romulox]

28. Ummm, what about the larger culture of violence (wars of choice on 2 continents, e.g.)?

The so-called "culture of hate" is pervasive. We are currently involved in two separate wars of choice based on a pack of lies in which we've killed hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of civilians.

[efhmc]

30. Sadly right. Violence in all areas of our culture is

the norm, including the constant presence of war.

[donheld]

31. Shouldn't the Koch Brothers be tied to this too?