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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:31 AM
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The prosecution of Jared Lee Loughner is not enough!
Yes, he is who pulled the trigger so many times. He committed the crime in front of so many witnesses. He should be prosecuted for that, but he was not alone. His accomplices may not have been on his shoulder whispering in his ear, his accomplices never met him, but the echoes of invoking a violent rhetoric in the ether of a culture were enough provocation and not just for the young Jared.

The voice of Bill O'Reilly echoing through the mind of Scott P. Roeder sending the vibes onward from a glorious victory over the evil liberal doctor. The voice of Anne Coulter echoing back from the halls of the Supreme Court lamenting that no one has poisoned a liberal justice's dessert. The voice of Rush Limbaugh echoing from the tin edged speakers of the AM band across the nation with a resonance of hatred of the liberal menace. The voice of Glen Beck squeaking along with the vibration of chalk on slate spewing pseudo-intellectual gibberish with only one clear message of the coming of the evil liberal to destroy America. The voice of Sarah Palin, shrill in her grizzly-mama persona taking aim at the liberals from the cover of an alleged Christian ethos. The voice of Michele Bachmann wanting her constituents armed and dangerous in support of her positions. The voice of Chuck Norris predicting a revolution. The voice of Katherine Crabill who urged her constituents to use the ballot box before they need the bullet box. The list goes on, and the voices echo in Moose lodges, American Legion halls and corner bars on, and on and on. Ever thrumming the dissonant chord that thinking people have placed among the background noise as competing with more pressing needs, but its effect is clearly contributing to the feeling that there's something terribly wrong. Because indeed there is something terribly wrong but you won't discern what it is from the noise.

That isn't the only reason prosecuting a single individual here is not enough. There was also the deafening roar caused by vacuum of the voice of reason. Even the conservative presidential candidate did not act to damp the heat of the emotions constituents displayed by shouting kill him about his opponent until after it became painfully clear it had become a rally cry. There was the flood of money financing the bus tours and advertisement which whipped the foam of lies to higher peaks, while still the voices of reason were silenced.

Even after they had been warned during the presidential election of what the rhetoric would lead to, they continued. In fact, they wailed over the unfairness of the report from the DHS stating that the culture they had created would lead to such a thing. Instead of soul searching, they redoubled their efforts in denigrating not just liberal positions, but liberals themselves. Worse, even now after this heinous act, the conservative position is not to establish a reasoned debate of issues, but to consolidate a cover of innocence. There is no remorse there. There is no shame.

The prosecution of an individual is not enough this time. The first amendment protects your right to send these vibes and messages into resonance, sure enough, but it does not protect you from the consequences of your broadcast.

There's a notion called depraved indifference in the law. Where if your actions are taken without regard to negative consequences, you are responsible for the results.

No, the prosecution of an individual in this case is not enough. Not this time. Never again.

-Hoot
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:34 AM
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1. Yes. ARREST CHUCK NORRIS. (nt)
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 01:31 AM
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8. I would but my handcuffs are afraid. n/t
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:35 AM
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2. Outstanding. I hope it is recced by many others.....You stated it just about perfectly
Thank you.

NEVER AGAIN.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 01:03 AM
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7. Thank you
I see the unrec birds have been out. Not to worry though.

-Hoot

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:48 AM
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3. HOW RIDICULOUS!!! They're just entertainers telling jokes!
C'mon Hoot! You know it is perfectly legal to joke about killing people, like politicians, doctors, and innocent little girls (if the target is a liberal or the child of a liberal, a woman, homosexual, dark-skinned person, et al.). After all, they only want it to sound like THEY REALLY WANT YOU TO KILL A LIBERAL, because that makes the joke funny, for republicants and conservotrash.



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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 01:02 AM
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6. Hello my friend
I fear that someone with some real intelligence on our side will snap and go all Kaczynski on them. I fear that is what they are waiting for.

But then again I tend towards paranoia.

-Hoot
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:52 AM
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4. Those who have consciously planned & financed a strategy of shifting the Overton Window by exploitin


..... base emotions (which is the essence of the Koch Brothers/RW propaganda machine/RNC strategy, and the only way they can get most of their base to vote against their own economic interests) have blood on their hands. The only way to defeat these bastards is to hold them publicly accountable.


K&R
Thanks.




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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:53 AM
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5. Okay, cool
Now let's find proof he listened to or watched them. So far, we have zip.

The fact his Facebook didn't link to Rand Paul or Sharon Angle's website is a disappointing start.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 01:42 AM
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9. You, again. What a surprise. You work for Loughner? His parents? Palin?
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 11:22 AM
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11. No, I just want proof
Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 11:27 AM by ProudToBeBlueInRhody
You know, the stuff you use to CONVICT and hold people LIABLE. If you are as serious as I am about prosecuting Sarah Palin for hate speech, you should want it too. It's not going to get done because you or I THINK it might have played a part in it. I want this guy's history on his computer, I want to know what he watches on TV, I want the fucking presets on his car radio. Like the asshole in Tennessee who shot up the Unitarian church. He had Bernie Goldberg's book in his car. PROOF he was driven by the reich-wing AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HELD UP ON EVERY NEWS SHOW IN THE LAND!!!!!!

Jesus christ, God forbid I want the evidence to shove it down these pricks' throats with their "plausible deniability"....

And by the way, why the fuck would I be working for Loughner or his parents? He's fucked no matter what comes out about this. His only hope is the "devil made me do it" defense.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 08:55 AM
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10. Good Morning kick n/t
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