Appease them use logic, facts, talk to them, reason with them, that's what many of you said

[DainBramaged]

Well, I guess the results are in, the Right today is blaming US for Saturday's tragedy. US.


Appeasement, useless as an empty gun.

[aquart]

1. No, it's fine at an empty gun. This one was loaded.

[dkf]

2. Lack of healthcare and easy access to guns is the cause.

I doubt either of those are our fault.

[seabeyond]

4. i dont buy the HC issue. parents in gted community. aware of the problem

if he wasnt taken care of was not because they couldnt or it was unrecognized

[kath]

6. His parents live in a gated community? I hadn't seen that anywhere.

I do know that his mom worked in an evil GOVERNMENT job, but news about the family has been very sparse.

[One_Life_To_Give]

7. Social Stigma

Even those who can afford it, have to face the social stigma of needing to see a mental health professional.

[seabeyond]

8. i can agree on that. any number of reasons why the dude didnt have care

but i dont think it has to do with health care issue..... like affordable, accessable, ect.

[spanone]

10. here's a pic of his house....not a gated community

[Hello_Kitty]

14. Doesn't mean that Loughner had health insurance

He was 22 and kicked out of college. Until just recently (with HCR provisions kicking in), that meant he couldn't be covered under his parents' plan. And if his parents are on Medicare or TriCare, he still couldn't be covered even now.

[seabeyond]

3. use logic, facts, talk to them, reason with them, = BOTH SIDES do it. nt

[HillbillyBob]

5. I accidently hit a wrong digit on sat afternoon when dialing in

for MSNBC to see what in hell was happening and landed on faxless nuz. They were already with the lefty lies bullshit. And the body count wasn't even in. I had heard first report on the radio in the car.
Reminder to self , block the factless idiot channel again DishTV upgraded our box a few months ago I did have it blocked on the old one.

[MannyGoldstein]

9. FDR & Churchill are spinning in their graves

with vigor sufficient to fully power their respective country's electrical grids.

[Skidmore]

11. Since when is looking to achieve civility and constructive discourse

appeasement? The alternative would be what? More of the same? Worse? Exactly what are you advocating as an alternative? Shall we all be out buying glocks?

[DainBramaged]

12. You know EXACTLY what I am talking about, exactly

and it's something Ive been saying here for YEARS, and trying to tie something I wrote to gun violence is simply disgusting.

[Skidmore]

13. I'm disagreeing that seeking civil dialogue is appeasement.

I'm asking you to tell me what you see as the alternative, if you identify constructive problem solving as undesirable.

[DainBramaged]

15. Mar-24-10

When so so many of you say "we should not lower ourselves to their level"

does that also mean self-defense against these Reich-Wing terrorists? Is this the beginning of the Democratic Party's Kristallnacht? They want to assemble with their guns everywhere without imposition on their freedoms, and they want to stop the Democratic agenda with any means possible.


As we turn the other cheek towards the enemies of Freedom while health insurance reform takes effect, should we just ignore these terrorists who violate our rights and sit silently while they chip away at our freedom of speech and assembly?


When will you learn that we are fighting a violent, aggressive, dangerous and ignorant mob and not playing chess?


Those of you who isolate yourselves behind your keyboards from the violence of these Cretans will be the last to know when they come for you.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8012202


If by now you haven't figured out that we as a Political Party have to stop appeasing the Right and stand up to them, then you can .........................

[Skidmore]

16. So what does "standing up to them" mean to you?

From your description of an armed opposition, it seem that, in the absence of dialogue, the only avenue you leave open is armed confrontation.

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[DainBramaged]

20. Getting my replies deleted, priceless

assume what you please, make all of the baseless accusations you can, we're done.


YOU tried to bait me, and if YOU can't see that, it's too bad my post was deleted. Block my reply to your email and then keep replying after I put you on ignore, absurd.

[Skidmore]

21. I'm sorry to see that you feel that way.

I asked a question.

[GeorgeGist]

18. Since when is appeasing criminals ...

civil or constructive?

[emilyg]

19. What's your solution?

[DainBramaged]

22. Call them out, stand up to them, send out qualified people in the media to counteract the McClain

effect (dozens of times spreading hate on Meet The Press) assemble and bombard the Senate and House member's office with phone calls and letters, GET DOWN TO THE GROUND LEVEL like the Pukes and fight back. They have the media, we need to take it back.

[Skidmore]

23. Thank you for clarifying.

This was the type of response I was looking for earlier. Happy you were able to supply it.