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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 10:26 AM
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We need a new Eugene V. Debs
Anybody want to apply?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs

Eugene Victor Debs (November 5, 1855 – October 20, 1926) was an American union leader, one of the founding members of the International Labor Union and the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW), and several times the candidate of the Socialist Party of America for President of the United States.<2> Through his presidential candidacies, as well as his work with labor movements, Debs eventually became one of the best-known socialists living in the United States.

In the early part of his political career, Debs was a member of the Democratic Party. He was elected as a Democrat to the Indiana General Assembly in 1884. After working with several smaller unions, including the Brotherhood of Locomotive Firemen, Debs was instrumental in the founding of the American Railway Union (ARU), the nation's first industrial union. When the ARU struck the Pullman Palace Car Company over pay cuts, President Grover Cleveland used the United States Army to break the strike. As a leader of the ARU, Debs was later imprisoned for failing to obey an injunction against the strike.

Debs educated himself about socialism in prison and emerged to launch his career as the nation's most prominent socialist in the first decades of the 20th century. He ran as the Socialist Party's candidate for the presidency in 1900, 1904, 1908, 1912, and 1920, the last time from his prison cell.

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 10:35 AM
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1. YES!!!!! I've been saying this for years...
:hi:

Good to see a like mind!!!!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 10:38 AM
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2. That's The Ticket
Split the center left vote even more in an election where Obams is the underdog.

Doesn't matter. Becoming president of America in 012 is akin to becoming President/CEO of Rambler in 1969.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 10:46 AM
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4. Debs wasn't a splitter. He unified working people against both major corporate sponsored parties.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 02:36 PM
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5. And he did more than run for President...
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 03:13 PM
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7. Yes he did. He organized a big socialist party and labor unions.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 03:16 PM
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9. Americans Will Elect A Huey Long Or Father Coughlan Before They Elect A Eugene Debs
Don't kid yourself. It could happen here.

Beside TR and his Bull Moose Party, and Money Bags Perot what third parties did the best?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 03:18 PM
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11. The Republican Party
Yes, it was a "third party" before the civil war
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 05:11 PM
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14. Of coruse because many Democrats would rather vote for Palin than support a real fighter
Just sayin'
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 10:43 AM
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3. We sure do.
:thumbsup:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 03:11 PM
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6. More than a leader, we need real grassroots activism. An organized movement with
a well-developed agenda can produce leaders; leaders can't by themselves produce a movement. Worse than that, leaders are easily removed and replaced, so someone can typically follow a leader for only a short time
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 03:14 PM
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8. Eugene who? Just kidding
but the problem is that people under 40 haven't had a good history of labor.

Tell me, when was the last COMPREHENSIVE history of labor written? Oh yes 1967
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 03:18 PM
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10. One morning at work (major retail store), I paged Eugene Debs. No biggie, but it felt good. nt
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 03:18 PM
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12. I'd say we need a modern day Eugene Debs. The Labor Movement is stuck in the 20th century.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 03:19 PM
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13. Funny that he didn't run in 1916
That was the only one of the elections during that period where a Democrat won (except 1912 when Republican voters split their votes between Roosevelt and Taft).
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