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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:05 AM
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Slogan: REPEAL the budget deal!
Edited on Thu Aug-04-11 11:08 AM by LuckyTheDog
The economy needs stimulus, not austerity.

Screw the credit rating. A lowered rating could shave 50 basis points off GDP. Austerity could shave off more than 100.

A massive infrastructure binge, on the other hand, could ADD more to the GDP than we would lose from a downgrade.

:banghead:
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:11 AM
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1. Just as pointless as "REPEAL Obamacare"...
Every minute spent on this is a minute not spent on a more productive policy initiative (protecting entitlements in the Super Committee, pressuring Congress to let the Bush tax cuts lapse, etc.)
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:11 AM
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2. Thank God there's no Congress or anything.
If there were, that would be very difficult to pull off.

As it is, though, repeal's a snap.
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:14 AM
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3. The game has changed
The market meltdown of the past few days changes the rules.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:16 AM
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4. you drop the credit rating and interest rates rise...
talk about killing the economy...and HAMMERING the purchase of new debt for the gov't.

not a good idea if we can avoid it (which i don't think we can).

sP
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 12:39 PM
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6. Japan got through it
So, interest rates go up a bit -- from historically low levels. But fuller employment would lift the ecomomy, including the housing market. That'd be true even if mortgage rates went up to 7%.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 01:13 PM
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7. i am talking to interest on personal debt
i am talking about gov't debt. you add a full point to the percentage rate paid on the USA debt you end up talking about hundreds of billions of dollars...which only exacerbates the existing debt problems...

sP
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 02:41 PM
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8. BUT...
... fuller employment and some special attention to the housing market could overwhelm those effects.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 03:32 PM
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9. i agree with that sentiment but as of late (meaning the last 30 years or so)
our gov't seems to be inept at the fixing part. throwing $$$ to all the wrong people!

sP
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:19 AM
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5. Wait debt has been raised. Now restructure and reinvest in the bones of the country.
Edited on Thu Aug-04-11 11:20 AM by The Wielding Truth
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