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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:07 PM Original message |
Healthcare reform to be gutted: cost-sharing subsidies NOT EXEMPT from debt deal's automatic cuts |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. But...but it's on "The List"! |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. ! |
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alsame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. But they'll keep the mandate. nt |
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area51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. Yep, you know it. n/t |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
29. They can try, but I sincerely doubt it will stay. nt |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. k and r and here, too: |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. great minds -- :) |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. :) |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
4. So, the poor will pay a $1000 "poor tax" because they won't be able to afford health insurance. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. you know, i had not done the math, but that sounds about right. sheesh. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 10:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
35. Un-freakin-believable! |
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RickFromMN (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. Message to the next President, don't be a compromising, capitulator. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Obama already had that message. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. I don't think he's read it. nt |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. what would a genuine article even look like...i barely remember. |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. But just imagine what the Real Shitty Bargain might've looked like! |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. we are indeed lucky duckies. |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
6. ... the one thing people have held up as his Great Accomplishment. Trashed in the dark. Questions? |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. He's kept 2 promises. Took Michelle on a date, and got the kids a dog |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. blahhahhhaahhhhaaaa! |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Heard the dog's chow may now be "unsustainable." Catfood to be substituted. |
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SusanaMontana41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 06:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
51. ... |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
52. and the dog was provided by Teddy Kennedy |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
11. I specifically posted on this, and was told I was imagining shit. |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. You are. Gitmo is closed. We all have National Health cards. GE paid some taxes. Shhhhhhhnow |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. i actually thought i was imagining shit when i heard this on Seder's show... |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 08:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. here or in p gd? |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 09:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. In GD. I asked how would it be possible that the new HCR would be untouched... |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. yeah, the pres. own fan club is in that other forum, it was prob 1 of them |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
22. Eh. Corporatism giveth. Corporatism taketh away. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 09:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. this country is acting like their getting ready for an IPO. |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 09:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Fire all staff, sell the furniture, declare a record year! |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 06:55 AM Response to Reply #25 |
42. seriously, that's a pretty good summation of what's happening. |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Looks great on paper. If you're stupid. |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 09:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Or a Liquidation Sale. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
26. This is |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
28. Obama's health care reform was a joke and it's |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 10:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. More like keep the crap and cut the subsidies. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
32. Your characterization of the consequences is absurd. The vast majority of the ACA is completely |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I have a real problem with tax money being funneled into the pockets of the health insurers |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 10:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I have more of a problem with people going without care BECAUSE they don't have insurance. YMMV. n/t |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 10:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Really? |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 11:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Yes, really. I would prefer policy that helps people, even if it also helps businesses who don't |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 11:13 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. There are not tens of millions of people who will be helped by that scam |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 06:58 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. does this mean you do not favor policy that helps people w/o helping CEOs? |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 06:50 AM Response to Reply #32 |
41. you should take that up with TNR's Senior Editor, Jonathan Cohn |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
44. This article is FUD sold as FACTS |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 09:10 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. that Obama's signature policy victory will likely fall victim to his signature negotiating style, |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. "will likely" |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. what, in your experience of this administration gives you the impression that negotiation |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Hear, hear. The tax cuts for the rich only "might" be extended as well. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. in that case he didn't even have to "negotiate" - he interceded to get them extended. |
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