Nader: ‘Almost 100 percent’ chance of a Democratic primary challenger to Obama

[Karmadillo]

http://news.yahoo.com/nader-almost-100-percent-chance-democratic-primary-challenger-020811577.html

Nader: ‘Almost 100 percent’ chance of a Democratic primary challenger to Obama

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Nader now says that a primary challenge is a near certainty.

“What did this week is just going to energize that effort,” Nader promised in an interview with The Daily Caller. “I would guess that the chances of there being a challenge to Obama in the primary are almost 100 percent.”

The only question, he said, is the stature of that opponent and whether it will be either “an ex-senator or an ex-governor” or “an intellectual leader or an environmental leader.”

In approximately a week and a half there will be “another chapter of this effort,” Nader predicted.

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[aquart]

1. Gee, I wonder which Koch brother is sending the check?

[trumad]

3. Fuck Nader

[trueblue2007]

57. HE IS A STUPID OLD, OLD, OLD MAN

BET HE IS GOING SENILE

BORN IN February 27, 1934 (1934-02-27) (age 77)

[Scurrilous]

2. @#$% Ralph Nader. n/t

[hifiguy]

4. Like Nader knows what's on the mind of any Democrat

that might challenge the Current Occupant. Such a challenge is needed, to be sure.

Forty years ago he had something to say, but these days Ralph Nader is human sewage. STFU Ralph.

[Renew Deal]

8. Nader has been a republican puppet for years.

And there are some suckers out there that enjoy puppet shows.

[SugarShack]

16. well it's OBVIOUS dems want another candidate.

and if they are dem...they do not split the ticket. super delegates will stop a challenger at the convention...the "super delegates"...just like the super committee coming your way. But...he WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE on his campaign....this is only way to push him back to the left where he got elected. Anything else...IS his own fault.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

25. Exactly.

I don't know why everyone is getting on Nader's case. Obama needs to be pushed back to the left. He seems to favor right-wing pressure; it's time to let him know the left-wing isn't going to be pushed around.

[hifiguy]

27. The message is fine

The problem is that the messenger - Nader - is a disruptive asshole who played a significant part in the play that saddled this country with Chimpoleon and Darth. His credibility on anything is near zero degrees Kelvin.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

35. Respectfully, I don't hold that view.

The Supreme Court is the institution that gave us the fiasco.

But let's just let that go for a moment. Do you agree that Obama needs to be more progressive, or that he needs a little legitimate nudging from the left?

[hifiguy]

43. In two words

"Do you agree that Obama needs to be more progressive, or that he needs a little legitimate nudging from the left?"

HELL YES (or both).

[Fantastic Anarchist]

49. Thanks!

:toast:

I agree.

[leeroysphitz]

54. Says you. n/t

[still_one]

5. Why anyone would care what this has been thinks is beyond me. /nt

[NightWatcher]

6. Is there any way we can get Ralph put away for "observation" before 2012

I think the tired old man is becoming a danger to himself and others.

[still_one]

10. Nah, just to himself, most people could care less what he thinks. /nt

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[Fantastic Anarchist]

26. **Smiles***

:toast:

[Renew Deal]

7. Good luck with that.

;)

[sharp_stick]

Yet another one of

the "nobody is paying attention to me" crowd comes out from under his rock. This guy, Roseanne Barr and Donald Trump should all team up to run a ticket on the I'm fucking crazy bandwagon.

[tridim]

9. We already have one, Randall Terry.

http://2012.democratic-candidates.org/

Declared 2012 Democratic Presidential Candidate

Pro-life Activist
Randall Terry

At a glance, it may seem a little odd for a pro-life and anti-LGBT candidate to run for the
Democratic nomination. A closer look however, would tell us that an estimated 30-40% of Democrats
actually shares the 52-year old Terry’s views. And for those who consider this as nothing more
than a publicity stunt by an anti-abortionist radical, think again. Randall Terry is planning to
spend close to $3 million for a 30-second slot in the 2012 Super Bowl.

----

Good luck dude. :rofl:

[Fantastic Anarchist]

Fuck. Not another reactionary Democrat.

I'm getting sick of them.

[Little Star]

53. OMG! That's a joke right? lol

[grahamhgreen]

11. All Obama has to do to stop this is: end the wars, or tax the rich, or end free trade or

fight for Medicare for All.

It aint rocket science.

And no, he is not adequately doing those things, so just saying he is doing something he isn't is not good enough. It will take more than the usual PR from the usual think tanks.

[kenny blankenship]

24. Bit late to start now.

[grahamhgreen]

38. Not if he wants to win in 2012.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

Yes, how hard is that to understand? n/t

[ProSense]

12. ‘Almost 100 percent’

The only question, he said, is the stature of that opponent and whether it will be either “an ex-senator or an ex-governor” or “an intellectual leader or an environmental leader.”

Just don't know who it is yet.

Fuck Nader, he's a moron.

[LonePirate]

13. Obama needs something to make him start listening to his liberal base be it a primary challenger or

something or someone else. I have had it with his right wing ideology and right wing biased compromises.

[Recursion]

31. Sigh. The Democratic party's base is moderates

Our distribution is not like Republicans; their party is smaller, but is more conservative than ours is liberal (I don't mean the leadership, I mean actual registered voters). That's why conservative freakshows can and do win GOP primaries, whereas Kucinich or Gravel never get above 2 or 3 percent. A greater percentage of Democrats self-identify as moderates than is true for the population as a whole.

[in_cog_ni_to]

14. Oh Thank G-d! Please let it be a TRUE Progressive like Alan Grayson, Bernie Sanders or Al Gore

Russ Feingold.

I hope Nader is right! We must take this country in a different Progressive direction.

[Recursion]

33. What states do you think Grayson or Sanders would win?

Seriously.

[in_cog_ni_to]

58. Many, many states. Once people get to know them...they will love them. Bill Clinton was an UNKNOWN

Governor from Arkansas....look where he ended up. Just because someone isn't well known now, doesn't mean they won't win the nomination. People are staving for SOMEONE who supports THEM...not corporations and the wealthy, but main street, the little guy, the working poor, UNIONS and seniors.

[Recursion]

59. If they were they would vote for them

The median voter is much less trustful of government's ability or desire to help than DU is. DK pulls 2 to 3 percent primary support even in very liberal states.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

37. Bernie Sanders would be my choice.

He may not win the nomination, but at least his ideas would be part of the debate. The discussion would certainly move left.

[RBInMaine]

15. Nader is nutty. What's he going to do? Run for the 100th time? Retire Ralph. It's time.

[MilesColtrane]

17. Nader must be getting senile.

He actually bagged on someone other than Democrats for a couple of sentences.

[CoffeeCat]

18. I want a primary challenger...

...and I really don't care what Ralph Nader says or does.

It's obvious that the corporatists have infiltrated both parties.

Time to stop living in fantasy-rainbow-sparkle fairyland--where we
believe that the answers are within our current political structure.

All politicians are bought and paid for, except for a few outliers.

Time to get back to what our Founding Fathers wanted. Enough of
this corporatist, neocon bullshit from both sides.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

41. Like Ted Kennedy in 1980? How'd that work out for Democrats?

And, like Ted Kennedy, would you want to keep the challenger;s campaign offices open after the primary is over?

[Robb]

19. Backstage, he predicted "trouble in the Middle East"

...and that there would be "sand involved." :D

Frankly, until LaRouche shuffles off to complain to his Maker about the impending British invasion, Nader's made a safe bet here.

[RC]

Notice how many people attack the messenger and do not respond to the message?

Primary Obama!

[Lorien]

21. Always. They've got nothing and they know it.

Nader has served them in far more ways than they will ever realize (anyone paying attention in the 70's and 80's would know that). I also like the way they cover for the GOP criminals and the SCOTUS by blaming Nader for their crimes in 2000. Pathetic.

[Little Star]

55. Every time they do the same routine!

[Lorien]

20. I hope that he's right. nt

[kenny blankenship]

23. If the economy collapses going into 2012, he may be right.

If we are right back where we were economically in '08-'09, Obama is a goner, no matter how smart and wonderful Democrats think he is.

Democrats aren't the only people who vote, as 2010 proved. Independents vote too, and while I have no respect for them, they are swift to declare and to punish what they see as failure, which they do by voting out the incumbent.

[cbdo2007]

28. I'm ok with this - As long as you all support President Obama when he easily wins the nomination.

[jillan]

29. The only reason I want Obama to be challenged is to push him back to left of center.

I always believed that Obama leaned towards the center, but on the left side of that center.

Now he has moved to the right. Someone has got to bring him back.

[kenny blankenship]

50. have you thought of a reason why that would actually work?

It's not like the man doesn't know how to tell Democrats what they want to hear policy-wise during a campaign, then implement the opposite, once it's too late to pick someone else.

[Maru Kitteh]

30. Nader is an irrelevant shitstain on the underwear of history.

Whatever scruples he may have once had were long ago sacrificed upon his alter to himself.

[SidDithers]

44. A beautiful description...

:thumbsup:

Sid

[snooper2]

32. So that would be like 98%, maybe 99%

:rofl:

[The Straight Story]

34. “an intellectual leader or an environmental leader.” just not a community leader please

:rofl:

[CrispyQ]

36. As one of Obama's most consistent detractors, all I can say is

:rofl:

TPTB are very happy with the prez. No primary opponent will be able to come close to the amount of money Obama's going to raise.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

39. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

To me, private money needs to be completely eliminated from our political process.

[divvy]

40. Nader is an ass-hole. He is more media-hungry than Palin.

And just like palin, who really cares what he thinks?

[SidDithers]

42. Fuck Ralph Nader...

who's the challenger, Ralph? Or are you throwing your support behind Randall Terry?

Sid

[treestar]

45. + 1 million

Just running his mouth and helping Republicans as usual.

[ProSense]

46. Look who did the interview

"Nader promised in an interview with The Daily Caller"

So Nader is talking to a RW rag about a primary challenge to Obama.

Clown!

[Ganja Ninja]

47. Good News. n/t

[Tatiana]

48. Ex-Senator like Russ Feingold???

He's someone that can speak with a common sense clarity that may be appealing to more than a few people.

Don't know that he'd want to be known as the one that primaried Obama, but honestly, if he was the option, I'd love to see him pit his progressive ideas against Obama's business-friendly, moderate to conservative policies and administration.

[Karmadillo]

56. +1

nt

[tritsofme]

51. Lee Mercer Jr is fighting for you!

Maybe he will even put Ralphy on the ticket!

[mmonk]

52. How does he know while I, a Democrat do not?