Sarah didn't pull the trigger.

[Blue Owl]

And Bin Laden didn't fly those planes.

[getting old in mke]

1. Now there's a bumpersticker for you. n/t

[beac]

13. I'd put that bumpersticker on my car.

Palin's "free speech" is putting lives in danger and it's WELL past time she was held accountable.

[madamesilverspurs]

18. Howziss?

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[Blue Owl]

24. Hi Ho, Silverspurs

You are fast!

[madmax]

33. Excellent!!!! Even a republican will 'get it'. nt

[madamesilverspurs]

37. Don't count on it!

Posted it on FB and the first response was: "You can't blame Sarah Palin for planning the shooting! EVERYONE knows that Obama planned it. Stop trying to blame her!"

Makes ya wonder, doesn't it?

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[truth2power]

38. Subtlety is not their strong suit.

:rofl:

[madmax]

43. What! You're right - they won't get it. My head hurts. nt

[lunatica]

2. And Charles Manson never personally killed anyone

[B Calm]

12. Spot On!

[Davis_X_Machina]

3. Should have titled the post...

..."Hey, nutpickers in the media, here's another one for your false-equivalency collection."

Some favor.

[baldguy]

7. What's false about it?

"False equivalency" is saying stealing candy from a baby is the same as stealing the baby.

[baldguy]

4. They just identified the targets.

[lunatica]

5. Hitler never personally gased anyone either

[bushisanidiot]

6. No. She just put up the crosshairs so the "targets" were known

.

[mmonk]

8. Ooooooh good one.

[fascisthunter]

9. And Charles Manson didn't Kill Anyone Either

But he sure as hell got people killed, didn't he?!

[onenote]

19. manson actively planned and directed the killings for which he is imprisoned

If all he had done was run an ad with a map and some homes in crosshairs and a message that the people living in those homes should lose their jobs and some people unknown to him went in and killed one of those families, Manson wouldn't be in jail.

Palin's ad was despicable, but it is false equivalency to equate her to Manson.

[hlthe2b]

10. I'd like to see her facebook page overwhelmed

with posts that state what you have suggest,(plus):

Sarah didn't pull that trigger
Bin Laden didn't fly those planes
Charlie Manson never killed those people....

Sure, Sara, you and your friends are all perfectly innocent. :eyes:

[blaze]

15. Thom Hartmann was reading some screen shots

from Palin's Facebook page. Apparently, they have people working 24/7 scrubbing all anti-Sarah posts. Within minutes.

[hlthe2b]

11. I'd like to see her facebook page overwhelmed

with posts that state what you have suggest,(plus):

Sarah didn't pull that trigger
Bin Laden didn't fly those planes
Charlie Manson never killed those people....

Sure, Sara, you and your friends are all perfectly innocent. :eyes:

[11 Bravo]

14. Because her Daddy wasn't there to help her cock the weapon.

[Vattel]

16. Bin Laden was involved in the plot to fly those planes.

Palin wasn't involved in a plot to shoot Giffords. For all you know, Loughner had never even seen her "target graphic," and so could not have been incited to violence by it. So please stop the silliness.

[tekisui]

21. I agree on the involvement of the plot. But, SSarah and her targets

greatly contributed to the hate speech and vitriol heard on the ground in Tuscon. That hate likely is what bled into the nutjobs head and actions.

[Vattel]

25. ok, but Bin Laden's connection to 911 is a lot closer than that,

and so the original post is another example of over-the-top rhetoric.

[Blue Owl]

22. I disagree -- Palin WAS involved in a plot to "remove" Giffords

She just let the "details" (wink wink) work themselves out on their own.

It was completely and totally out of her control (wink wink).

[Vattel]

26. Did she seek the death of Giffords?

As far as we know, she did not. Don't pretend to know things that you don't know.

[coalition_unwilling]

27. Where's your evidence that Bin Laden was involved in the plot

to fly those planes?

N.B. The Taliban publicly offered to turn Bin Laden over to the U.S. if it would only present evidence that Bin Laden had committed a crime. U.S. (when Colin Powell was Sec of State) refused to reveal its evidence and instead backed a proxy army (the Northern Alliance) in an Afghan civil war.

But whatever you've got to tell yourself . . .

[Vattel]

29. woooooosh

So the OP's point was that Palin, like Bin Laden, is not responsible?

[coalition_unwilling]

32. No, the OP is arguing that Palin is responsible for Tucson for the same reason

that bin Laden is deemed responsible for 9-11. Your allegation (if I read you correctly) is that bin Laden was directly involved in 9-11 and therefore directly responsible, whereas Palin's link to the Tucson shootings was tenuous by comparison and thus she has no responsibility, and that this somehow renders the OP's post invalid.

That's fine and dandy -- you are entitled to your opinion and it's logical provided its premise (that bin Laden was directly involved in the 9-11 plot) is correct. The problem is with the premise: you (and the U.S.) have offered no evidence whatsoever that bin Laden was involved in the 9-11 plot to fly the planes. Again, the Taliban agreed to bin Laden's extradition if the U.S. would present its evidence against bin Laden (exactly what we would want our government to do if a foreign government like say the Taliban demanded that we turn over someone on our soil to it). The U.S. pointedly refused to reveal its evidence. Powell promised that a 'white paper' would be released detailing the evidence but that white paper conveniently was never to my knowledge released. Instead, the U.S. decided to forgo any pretense of rule of law or due process and instead, in Vietnam redux, backed a proxy army in an internal Afghan civil war.

The right wing is saying that, because Palin did not pull the trigger, she is not responsible for the Tucscon shootings. The OP is putting the right's rhetoric back on it. If bin laden is responsible even though he did not fly the planes, then Palin is responsible even if she did not pull the trigger. In response, you try to have it both ways: bin laden is\was responsible because he was more directly involved in the plot, whereas Palin is not responsible because she was not directly involved in any plot. That's fine, except the burden is on you to prove that bin laden was directly involved in the 9-11 plot. That will be a tall order, imho, being as the U.S. could have ponied up many times already and has not for reasons that, if known, might well disgust and appal the American public.

[jillan]

17. Wow - that was perfect my friend!

[arthritisR_US]

20. Wow...best post I've seen in weeks! Brevity can be astute :-) n/t

[Avalux]

23. Very good! I like it. n/t

[Rocknrule]

28. You gotta admit,

At least Bin Laden takes credit for the killing that occur on his orders, unlike the Wicked Witch of the North

[fasttense]

30. Palin may not have pulled the trigger but she aimed the weapon. n/t

[samsingh]

31. excellent point

[elleng]

34. and guns don't kill.

[cali]

35. stupid and ridiculous. n/'t

[thelordofhell]

36. One Tin Soldier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTKx2f44tDo&nofeather=True

Go ahead and hate your neighbor
Go ahead and cheat a friend

Do it in the name of Heaven
You can justify it in the end

There won't be any trumpets blowing
Come the judgement day

On the bloody morning after
One tin soldier rides away



Sarah did not pull the trigger, but she put the gun in his hand with her rhetoric and words.

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[tavalon]

42. There are sarcasm smilies in the lookup table above your post

It will make us much less likely to think you a troll.

[karnac]

40. YAY! Sarah Palin can't run for PREZ now!

Whew, and I was SOO worried she'd beat Obama!

Couldn't even make it out of the primaries.

I love the consequences....

[tavalon]

41. But they are both culpable