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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 04:01 PM
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Hello, DUers, here’s today’s Friday Afternoon Challenge. “High stakes and bitchy”
Edited on Fri Aug-05-11 04:02 PM by CTyankee
the wonderful world of art!

Here are several works that caused some famously hard feelings, for you to identify, in the art world (Google is fine, but no Goggles, please!)
1(a).

1(b).

2(a).

2(b).

3.

4.

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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 04:13 PM
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1. rats...
have to log off for several hours- I'll check and see if there are any left unfound when I get home.

Thanks for doing this CTYankee- I really enjoy the challenge.

:hi:
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 04:15 PM
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2. Thanks. Hope you can make it back.
This one is kinda different...


:hi:
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Laf.La.Dem. Donating Member (924 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 04:16 PM
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3. I love your “Friday Afternoon Challenge” postings!!
BUT - I am a cheater - I do not know ANY of today’s postings BUT I found ALL of them (I will not post unless I actually “know” the item without “cheating” - Scout’s honor)!

O8)
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 04:25 PM
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4. Oh, you are very nice! Thanks!
Did you just get to the name of the painter and painting or did you find how it related to the title?
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Laf.La.Dem. Donating Member (924 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 04:40 PM
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5. I hope (at least I tried) I sent you a "private" note.
Will keep this our secret :evilgrin:

Let me know if you did not get message - I will try again
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 04:42 PM
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6. Yep. Got it.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 04:47 PM
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7. #4: Da Vinci's "The Annunciation"'s being lent to Japan caused controversy.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 04:53 PM
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8. Yes. Did you know about this?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 05:28 PM
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11. No; I started with figuring out that "Angel + Mary" must = "The Annunciation," and went from there!
Edited on Fri Aug-05-11 05:28 PM by WinkyDink
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 05:25 PM
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10. N/M! I read the post below!
Edited on Fri Aug-05-11 05:27 PM by WinkyDink
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 05:01 PM
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9. I'm an art idiot and a google maestro.
Here's an interesting article about 2a and 2b.

spoiler alert

I love these CTYankee. Thanks!
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 06:02 PM
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12. So please announce them here! Sorry, that is what I really wanted here, not just the ID
of the painting.

I'll do it if you won't but I think it is great for people to know!
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 06:35 PM
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13. thanks so much lumberjack jeff. I'm glad you like them
I'm thinking this exhibit was a real hard deal between the two of these artists...so???
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 06:42 PM
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14. Yep, this is the deal. OK to reveal them.
Constable was exhibiting his painting and Turner came in to the exhibit and actually took his paint and changed his painting, to have a red spot in order to upstage Constable's red militia. I think that is funny, really. I laughed over it...
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 10:57 AM
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38. OH NO, he WOULDN'T!
Like him so much, so NOT FUNNY to me!

:hi:

(Just got here; busy yesterday.)
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 11:06 AM
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39. Hi, Ellen! Glad you dropped by!
Well, my title WAS "high stakes and bitchy" so much of this is meant to be humorous. I like that Constable was later quoted as saying "Turner has been here and has fired a gun.":hi:
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 07:28 PM
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20. What do you have on 1 (a) and 1 (b) ?
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 07:55 PM
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25. Apparently Brunelleschi insulted Donatello's Crucifix (1b) "looks like a street person"
Edited on Fri Aug-05-11 07:58 PM by lumberjack_jeff
Donatello says "fine, jackass. Get a bunch of wood and do it better." So he (1a) did.

Each Friday, I double my knowledge of art history. :hi:
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 08:04 PM
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28. Excellent! How did you get this?
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 08:57 PM
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35. Ancient Lumberjack secret.
I'll pm you.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 08:20 PM
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33. Actually, he said that Donatello had painted a peasant.
When Donatello saw Brunelleschi's crucifix he agreed.

I like Donatello's better, actually...
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 06:52 PM
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15. Well, we have 1 (a) and 1 (b) and 3 to decipher.
Goodness! We've got work to do!
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 07:15 PM
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16. Love these!
Will check back later, I have bylaws to write (over pizza and beer) but bylaws however are not a match for your Friday challenge. I would rather be here for certain :)
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 07:19 PM
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17. No guesses yet, but I love the title!
:evilgrin:
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 07:21 PM
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18. The whole idea is to get the big controversies!
We still have a few unsolved...hmmm...
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 07:27 PM
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19. No clue what #3 is, but I'm really enjoying it
It will be interesting to see if the controversy about it affects that or not.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 07:30 PM
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21. #3 is so much fun! You will love it! A kind of insanity...
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 08:01 PM
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27. I really am just swept away by the color, shading and sprinkles
of star-like fireworks.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 08:15 PM
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32. I love night time paintings! It wasn't done for so very long in painting, I am glad
that now we have them...
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:02 AM
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37. I do as well
I also love that time in life, that moment when the sky turns deepest blue at dusk.

Augusto Giacometti has a wonderful painting called "Die Nacht" in the Zurich Art Museum.
Not famous and I have never seen a pic of it online, but glad I grabbed a postcard which I scanned so to have it as background on my phone and see a much scaled down version that way.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 07:38 PM
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22. #3 Whistler, "Nocturne in Black and Gold"
Nocturne in Black and Gold, mentioned above, was one of number of semi-abstract riverscapes, and prompted the pre-eminent critic John Ruskin to ask, on the occasion of the Grosvenor’s opening in 1877, why Whistler felt free to ask for money ‘for flinging a pot of paint in the face of the public’. There may have been a certain amount of public politicking behind such a remark. Ruskin was still a man of the Royal Academy, and felt obliged to uphold its values particularly in the face of such an arrogantly self-assertive man as Whistler. There was no particular artistic reason why he should have displayed such hostility towards Whistler’s paintings. He had, after all, championed Turner, who produced work which matched Whistler’s Nocturnes in terms of vaporous formlessness.

Whistler, who was highly self-critical but unlikely to accept adverse opinion from anyone other than himself, and who, as an immaculate dandy, may have objected to Ruskin’s referring to him as ‘a coxcomb’, sued for libel. As his friend in rivalry Oscar Wilde was to discover in a later decade, bringing grievances and feuds into the establishment arena of the Courts was a grave mistake for someone who went so extravagantly against the grain. He won the case, but was granted a derisory award of a farthing in damages, and was left to pay ruinous fees for the case.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 07:46 PM
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23. Beat me by 4 minutes
Just found it, too.

Not surprised to find I disagree completely with Ruskin.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 07:50 PM
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24. Yeah
what would Ruskin say about Jackson Pollock?

:fistbump:
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 07:58 PM
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26. I imagine it would be along the lines of spittle on canvas
or some such.

I remember reading "Parallel Lives" years ago, which has a segment on Ruskin's marriage to Effie Gray. Whenever I hear his name, I can't help but picture him in court as their marriage was being annulled, offering to prove his virility in the courtroom to the people there.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 08:11 PM
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30. Well that's a spicy tidbit
I had not heard... :blush:

Wouldn't have mattered much what Ruskin said about Pollock these days...:

Pollock's masterpiece of Abstract Expressionism combines a balanced composition of paint splatters in many colors. This work became the most valuable piece of art in the world when it sold for $140,000,000 in 2006.

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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 08:13 PM
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31. Ruskin had a hang up, as I recall, about women's bodies, hence his problems
at the trial, going nuts over the "lady-saints." I laugh just thinking about it...
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 08:50 PM
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34. I see...
sounds like a fetish for chaste girls and virgins--reading between the lines on Wiki--(what I know of Elvis comes to mind...)

Nuff said. Ruskin was a pretty interesting character. He became a socialist and gave all his stuff away in the end.

I had no idea Whistler was such a fiery character. Bit of a hot head.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 08:08 PM
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29. Ruskin was a piece of work! He claimed he was temporarlly insane to
come to testify at the trial because he was looking at pictures of the "lady-saints" and evidently St. Ursula put him over the edge...
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 11:52 PM
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36. That he was
Apparently he expected his wife to be, let us say, bare as a statue in all places and was quite surprised and off-put to see that wasn't the case for a real woman's body.

Thus, no conjugal relations and thus the challenge at the hearing, given they deemed him impotent.
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