Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Amazon gathering anti-tax-law signatures outside retail stores

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:42 AM
Original message
Amazon gathering anti-tax-law signatures outside retail stores
Reporting from Los Angeles and Sacramento — Amazon.com Inc. is giving bricks-and-mortar retailers yet another reason to fume.

As the online giant begins its quest to overturn a new California law requiring it to collect sales taxes just like its Main Street competitors, its signature gatherers are heading to popular shopping areas to obtain the 500,000-plus signatures the company needs to get the measure on next June's ballot.

Petition workers are swarming popular commercial hubs including Larchmont Village in Los Angeles, Colorado Boulevard in Pasadena and the Gaslamp Quarter in San Diego as well as Ralphs, Trader Joe's, Target and other major retailers — many of which have lost sales to Amazon.

"It's a particularly clever shot across the bows" of the big-box stores, said Bill Whalen, a research fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University and a former speechwriter for Republican politicians. "It says that not only do we intend to fight you in the court of public opinion but actually we're going to come onto your front porch."

Signature gatherers have long been a familiar presence in malls and outside grocery stores and big-box retailers. The law gives these workers generous access to potential voters in commercial centers.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-amazon-petition-20110806,0,5932785.story?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+latimes%2Fbusiness+%28L.A.+Times+-+Business%29
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
lbrtbell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 02:04 AM
Response to Original message
1. For once, Amazon is right
Mail-order firms aren't required to collect sales tax in any state unless they have a brick-and-mortar store in that state.

Why should Amazon's customers be taxed, while customers of Walter Drake, etc., aren't?

Internet sales are no different from mail order, and neither should be subject to sales tax.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 03:08 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Yup, agree
and if I come across someone with the petition I'll sign it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
indurancevile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 03:17 AM
Response to Reply #2
4. mail order firms typically have a store somewhere & are taxed on sales somewhere.
Edited on Sat Aug-06-11 03:21 AM by indurancevile
where is amazon taxed on sales?

The online giant has relied on a 1992 U.S. Supreme Court decision that said out-of-state companies were exempt from collecting taxes if they had no presence in the state, such as workers, stores or warehouses. Buyers are still responsible for paying equivalent taxes, but they rarely do.


california can just change the law to say that amazon will collect the taxes on behalf of the buyers & refund them to the state.

someone is supposed to be paying sales tax.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
indurancevile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 03:16 AM
Response to Reply #1
3. amazon has a brick & mortar store NOWHERE.
Edited on Sat Aug-06-11 03:22 AM by indurancevile
The online giant has relied on a 1992 U.S. Supreme Court decision that said out-of-state companies were exempt from collecting taxes if they had no presence in the state, such as workers, stores or warehouses. Buyers are still responsible for paying equivalent taxes, but they rarely do.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 03:40 AM
Response to Original message
5. +1 for Amazon on this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 07:21 AM
Response to Original message
6. Count me in.
+1
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 07:35 AM
Response to Original message
7. Amazon is like WalMart and, no I don't support their petition
they, like WalMart, kill small, local businesses - and anyone who cannot see this is like the person who shops at WalMart and then wonders why the economy sucks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 07:36 AM
Response to Original message
8. Screw Amazon
Even the playing field for online and local retail. That's the only fair thing to do.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri May 03rd 2024, 12:40 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC