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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 05:49 AM
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US has 'snatch-and-grab' plan for Pak's nuclear weapons
Source: Times of India

WASHINGTON: The US has a contingency plan to "snatch-and-grab" Pakistan's nuclear weapons, if and when the President believes they are threat to either America or its interests, a media report has said, amid strains in bilateral ties.

Plans have been drawn up for dealing with worst-case scenarios in Pakistan, NBC news reported quoting current and former US officials, who say that ensuring security of Pakistan's nuclear weapons has long been a high US security priority even before 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Among the scenarios drawn by the report is Pakistan plunging into internal chaos, terrorist mounting a serious attack against a nuclear facility, hostilities breaking out with India or Islamic extremist taking charge of the government or the Pakistan army.

NBC said the greatest success of the US war on terrorism, the military operation that killed Osama bin Laden in his safe house in Pakistan in May..., has fuelled concerns about Pakistan's nuclear arsenal.

Read more: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/US-has-snatch-and-grab-plan-for-Paks-nuclear-weapons/articleshow/9505533.cms



Why wait? Do it NOW!
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 05:59 AM
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1. This won't end well, and
Edited on Sat Aug-06-11 06:04 AM by no_hypocrisy
Pakistan can always make or buy more. Taking away its nukes makes it feel vulnerable to India with its nukes and generally taking away its MoJo.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 06:08 AM
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3. Can the economy afford another war boost? If we pick up
Pakistan's nukes, we will have to go get India's too. China won't want those sitting around either.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 06:27 AM
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5. "We" get involved if our military merely "guards" Pakistan's nukes.
We would become an alien force in their country. Remember how our military was roundly criticized for going into their country to assasinate Bin Laden? They were ambivalent about Bin Laden but hostile to the fact his murder took place in their country without their permission.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 06:38 AM
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7. That operation was designed to antagonize.
They had a safe house with a view for six months. No electricity at the Bin Laden compound. A team of seals could have gone over the wall with no publicity.

Either antagonize or make a show. Too many spooks involved.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 06:02 AM
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2. sounds like a sensible plan to me, if it's really feasible
Edited on Sat Aug-06-11 06:06 AM by Syrinx
But isn't the Times Of India a notoriously inaccurate news outlet?
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 06:18 AM
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4. Most links on subject go to an Indian source
which to my mind makes them suspect.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 06:41 AM
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8. I would take what the paper says with a grain of salt
Besides, I don't see any feasible way of "grabbing" those nukes. It just doesn't strike me as realistic or feasible without risking a full blown out war. It was one thing to sneak in and kill bin Laden, but getting hold of their nukes? The logistics would be a nightmare for one. Plus my guess is that the nukes are distributed throughout the country as well so it would more or less take a full scale invasion.

I'll fully admit that I think it would be great if there was a way to grab them. But the Pakistanis are not stupid and with the distrust they have for the US at the moment, I would figure these facilities are pretty secure and the whereabouts are probably secret to most other than the head of their military and intelligence units. Hell, I'd be surprised if even Zardari knew.

Besides we don't have the money to mount such a mission and we certainly have no resources considering how thin we're stretched. Pakistani nukes are just a shitty geopolitical fact we have to deal with, just like NK - another failed state that throws a fit and tries to extort the world because they can't provide their citizens with anything.

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 05:36 PM
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19. We actually discussed this here a couple of years ago
when Musharraf was still in. I'll see if I can find the link.
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 06:35 AM
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6. Pure bullshit - we have enough already and it's still cheaper to just
make our own. Aren't we on a "made in the USA" these days anyway?
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 07:09 AM
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9. +1000
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 07:11 AM
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10. Why wait?
Do you really think that a mission like this will be without casualties, and there's always the chance that it might fail! But if you're that gung ho about it, you first!!!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 07:14 AM
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11. No, the only solution is a full-scale invasion!
nothing else will work.

:sarcasm:
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 07:21 AM
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12. Be an interesting snatch to watch
What's the difference between a pick pocket and a peeping Tom ? A pickpocket snatches watches.......
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 07:23 AM
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13. The US Military has hundreds of different plans that they ..
.... have studied and they MIGHT be used if and when a need arises. Grain of salt time.




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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 08:11 AM
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14. Pakistan don't need the nukes anymore anyway!
Japan is already nuking India.
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Cool Logic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 08:35 AM
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15. Isn't "snatch-and-grab" just another term for stealing?
A strategically placed satellite equipped with a sophisticated laser, might be a better option.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 09:10 AM
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16. Pakistan continues to disintegrate accrording to my friend from Pakistan
who visits regularly.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 09:14 AM
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17. If I get annihilated, I'm gonna sue somebody.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 05:34 PM
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18. Can we grab them out of the air?
It wouldn't be unreasonable for Pakistan to launch them all at the first sign of an attack - at least not any more unreasonable than any use of nuclear weapons.

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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 06:53 PM
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20. I sure as hell hope so.
Plans have been drawn up for dealing with worst-case scenarios in Pakistan, NBC news reported quoting current and former US officials, who say that ensuring security of Pakistan's nuclear weapons has long been a high US security priority even before 9/11 terrorist attacks.


NOT having a plan in place would be simply insane.



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