Michael Moore: "Matt Damon For President"

[Little Star]

FDL by: Lisa Derrick Monday August 8, 2011 9:15 am

In Sunday’s FDL Members’ Virtual Town Hall on third party election strategies with guests Josh Koster, Daniel Ellsberg and Michael Moore–the director four of the top ten box-office documentaries of all time–gave his suggestion for a third party candidate, actor Matt Damon: "I think that has been very courageous in not caring about who he offends by saying the things that need to be said here, and if you want to win, the Republicans have certainly shown the way — that when you run someone who is popular, you win. Sometimes even when you run an actor, you win. And I guess I only throw his name out there because I’d like us to start thinking that way."

Matt Damon is outspoken when it comes to politics and social change, and has expressed dissatisfaction with how Obama is running the country. The actor, who won an Academy Award for co-writing Good Will Hunting with co-star Ben Affleck narrated the documentary Inside Job an expose about the banking industry, and in his most recent theatrical release, The Adjustment Bureau played a New York Congressman running for the United states Senate. A humanitarian activist who founded H2O Africa, Damon is on the board of the ONE Foundation and Not On Our Watch which works to end genocide and related atrocities. He is also active in U.S. charities which focus on ending hunger, and last months marched in Washington D.C. supporting Save Our Schools, a grassroots organization of teachers and parents striving for improved public education where he delivered a speech, introduced by his teacher mom.

FDL Members Town Hall participants along with Ellsberg and Moore expressed dissatisfaction with the current Democratic leadership. Moore says he thinks both the Democrats and the Republicans are weak right now, and that
"a group of people, if we had some real national leadership, and a real commitment to grassroots organizing, to form a new Democratic Party…Listen I throw these ideas out there, because I recognize the country I live in. Living in Michigan now, the main topic of conversation this week was the last episode of the Bachelorette, and why did Ashley pick J.P. over Ben. That’s the country I live in, and they all vote. And I’d like to communicate with them. I know that they’re upset. And I know they don’t like these wars and they’re desperate for jobs. Living in Michigan, we’re living in a depression right now. There really couldn’t be a better time to organize, to run a viable candidate. And to really say the Democratic party has not served us well, so we’re going to Democrats 2.0. We’re bringing it into the 21st century, we’re going to be called the New Democrats, or the Roosevelts, or the whatever you come up with, and we’re going to run people who are going to win."

http://lafiga.firedoglake.com/2011/08/08/michael-moore-matt-damon-for-president/


I think Michael Moore is right!!!!! Damon should challange Obama in the primary!

[GoddessOfGuinness]

1. I can't say I'd definitely vote for him,

but I'd sure as hell think it over.

[Little Star]

9. He is a progressive and he is viable and he is nice looking and

he is smart and he is a good person. I'd like to see him debate.

Maybe I would, maybe I wouldn't vote for him if there was another challenger who was better.

But if it was just between him and our president who I no longer have any faith in, Matt would get my vote and I'd donate and work my ass off for him too.

I'd like to try a real liberal/progressive in 2012! 4 long years of bipartisan-shit is enough for me.

[swilton]

47. I would like to see if what Nader says comes to pass or

to see if Sanders will run...Although Sanders said he wouldn't run in December, he has yet to shut down the draft Sanders website....He's also much more outspoken in his criticism of Obama which seems to me he's addressing more than just a Vermont audience....Uncertain if he's doing this to garner support for a senate run or is testing the waters.

[defendandprotect]

147. We need a huge round up of democrats who aren't pre-bribed by corporations ....

and btw, wasn't Obama quite an actor during the campaign ?


As Pelosi observed, "Obama was for a lot of things during the campaign

... that he is no longer for!" ---

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[banned from Kos]

2. FDL and MM are useless appendanges

Why listen to idiot Obama haters?

[EFerrari]

3. Your cogent, in depth analysis, on the other hand, shouldn't be missed

by any thinking person.

:rofl:

[JI7]

6. and Matt Damon for Pres was based on cogent, in depth analysis ?

[EFerrari]

10. I didn't make any claims for him that I recall.

On the other hand, I'd trust him a lot farther than I trust the current political elite and our coin operated Congress. :)

[Aerows]

61. "Coin operated Congress"

My word, if ever a phrase needed to be repeated, it's THAT one. You are so spot on, I'd love to rec your post if I could.

Excellent and concise analysis of the state of our government, EFerrari.

[EFerrari]

73. It belongs to Ishmael Reed, one of my old poetry teachers.

He sure can turn a phrase. :)

[calimary]

109. MAN! My hat is off to Ishmael Reed!

"...coin operated Congress."

THAT needs to be on bumper stickers EVERYWHERE, EFerrari!!!!

[G_j]

122. can get much better than that! nt

[tomg]

71. Great phrase. That's it:

"coin operated congress"

[calimary]

112. "Coin-operated Congress."

Make it go viral!

[Raksha]

139. "Our coin operated Congress" - I LOVE IT!!!

[defendandprotect]

149. Exactly -- FOLLOW THE MONEY .... !!

[Hawkowl]

140. About as experienced as Obama was. nt.

[defendandprotect]

148. Hey, if Obama came based on "cogent, in depth analysis" ... better follow the money -- !!

[QC]

7. +1

[Enthusiast]

65. Right!

[JI7]

4. yup, if they were really serious, why not suggest Damon run for Senate against Scott Brown

Damon is originalliy from Mass.

[banned from Kos]

12. Yeah, I could support Damon for Senate in Mass

as long as Michael Moore didn't taint him at the starting gate.

MM is a loser.

[Mimosa]

15. How and why is Moore a loser?

Seriously, why is Michael Moore a loser?

[banned from Kos]

22. Seriously - you don't know? Moore campaigns for LOSER political positions

Handgun bans = LOSER (ask Al Gore in TN - may have cost him the election - no Dem will touch it now).

Americans love Markets! They love owning their own business! (Capitalism - an attack- is a LOSER position)


I support sensible regulations, a safety net, Social Security, the EPA -- and I don't won't that slob mucking things up.

[tblue]

30. You "don't won't," eh?

Lol! Have you read any of Michael Moore's books. Or don't won't you do that either?

[spooked911]

63. hard to believe you were banned from Kos

you are such a radical!

[Enthusiast]

66. I could name a loser but I will

try to exercise control.

[Wind Dancer]

79. Oh please.....

... sounds like you don't know the first thing about MM. :eyes:

[JDPriestly]

108. banned from Kos, did you actually see Michael Moore's

Capitalism -- a Love Story? It's not an attack on entrepreneurs or small businesses or even all big businesses. It is an attack on Wall Street, on the gambling and the greed.

Please watch the movie before you talk about it. The subtitle is A Love Story. It is about Moore's disappointment in capitalism as it is. Michael Moore is a businessman. He is not opposed to capitalism as it is supposed to be.

What we have now is a perversion of capitalism.

In LA and surrounding communities, so many businesses have failed, so many shops have closed -- empty storefronts are everywhere.

This is not capitalism's finest hour. In fact, it looks like capitalism has failed itself and us.

We are witnessing capitalism turned cannibalism (companies eating other companies, devouring each other whole instead of eating healthy food, in other words providing useful goods and services and flourishing).

[banned from Kos]

113. thank you for your constructive post. Now we can get somewhere.

I will be truthful. I have not seen it. I agree with you with "not the finest hour" and it is an understatement I agree so much.

I am a fan of Soros - who criticizes "market fundamentalism" and is still a great capitalist. Markets destroy - they fuck up lives sometimes (2008) and markets need rules and the Libertarians who deny this are destructive to our country.

Buffett and Soros love regulations - like FASB, Basel, Delaware bankruptcy courts, and now Dodd-Frank. So do I.


However - in MESSAGING to the 290 million Americans who did not see Mr. Moore's movie - he is a nutty socialist - if they know about him at all.

Now I know better but we're talking messaging and winning elections here.

So therefore - he is not the guy I want representing Democratic ideals.

[JDPriestly]

126. Just allowing the lies about Moore to disable him as a political

spokesperson is foolish.

The Main Stream Media has silenced so many of our best thinkers and most compassionate leaders by misrepresenting their viewpoints or their conduct.

Howard Dean is a case in point. His "scream" was the aural equivalent of photo-shopping. The very loud sound of the crowd around Dean was recorded at a low level, while Dean's scream was broadcast at a high volume. It made Dean's scream sound disproportionately loud. The newscast distorted the actual sound in the room.

But many voters were turned off by the idea that Dean would scream like that.

And so, we lost the opportunity to choose a leader who would have changed the course of history for the better -- a man with the political experience of a governor and the compassion of a doctor.

We all have to learn to think for ourselves and to judge for ourselves based on the evidence and the facts and not on what we hear someone say on TV, not on some report colored by a political point of view or opinion. It is our obligation to ask questions.

Michael Moore is what he is -- a filmmaker, a social commentator who looks to the inspiration of his Catholic faith for his social values and an entrepreneur.

His work is distorted by commentators who want to paint him as some sort of wild revolutionary. That's simply a falsification. He is a social critic with a great sense of humor, not a wild revolutionary.

He is a great guy, but he is just a human being. His views on economics and politics are, in my opinion, very sensible. He really is not such an extremist, but he is, like me, very saddened by the calloused attitudes of today's business leaders and politicians.

[banned from Kos]

127. Well I Like Howard Dean too! A lot! He also had a 100% NRA rating!

and is way to the right of Michael Moore.

Give it up! MM is a LOSER! for all Democrats!

[Doremus]

192. Speak for yourself.

MM is an effective communicator and I am happy for him to represent the progressive wing of the Dem party. He IS a progressive Dem so what other group would he represent?

You profess to know MM yet your weak arguments against him reveal that you know very little except rightwing talking points. Why don't you educate yourself before opining on someone you obviously know very little about ... other than your visceral, illogical, dislike of him. Thank you.

[banned from Kos]

195. No, pal! A pol that runs on a platform of anti-handgun and anti-Capitalism is a loser!

I am all about WINNING elections! For economic justice, Clinton tax rates, energy and carbon taxes and Health Care reform!

[bitchkitty]

206. You are misinformed.

I suspect that you watch Fox News.

Michael Moore is a member of the NRA, or was. There is nothing anti-gun about wanting sane gun laws.

Fuck Capitalism in its current form. And if you think that capitalist societies are the only ones where people own their own businesses, then I KNOW you've been watching Fox News.

[defendandprotect]

150. I'd vote to put Michael Moore in the White House ... he's a humanist and knowss what's going down!!

[kenny blankenship]

130. Troll.

[defendandprotect]

164. True -- the GOP/NRA doesn't like Michael Moore who tells the truth about how

they were radicalized by elite money to target not only liberals and moderates

in the Dem Party -- but in their own party as well -- thereby moving the Congress

to the RIGHT -- !!

Capitalism is a riciculous "King-of-the-Hill" system intended to move the wealth

and natural resources of a nation from the many to the few --

and it does that exceedingly well all over the world!


Unregulated capitalism is merely organized crime -- as we're all seeing right now!


How many millions of homeless and suffering Americans right now -- ?

50 million of them w/o health care due to corporate/fascism --

How many uneployed -- !!


Capitalism is over -- we just haven't buried it yet!

[Exultant Democracy]

19. Why is MM a loser... while you are at it what were you banned from Kos for?

[QC]

25. I have new respect for Kos. n/t

[Vanje]

77. + 1 !

[Ignis]

95. !

:spray:

[banned from Kos]

27. For defending President Obama! Which I still do!

Ok - I used explicit language at the time.

[Exultant Democracy]

33. A very curious choice for a moniker?

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[banned from Kos]

114. probably - I am a Democrat. n/t

[Mimosa]

42. Okey Doke.

I used to not like Michael Moore. But the more informed I became the more I appreciated Moore. He has done more to inform people than CNN, ABC, or any mainstream media. Moore cares about the American working people. He never forgets his dad, his family and the promises of 1950s America.

Moore's Capitalism: A Love Story is the best attempt to inform Americans what is being done to us and by whom.

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[CreekDog]

105. you got banned for cussing?

right! :rofl:

[banned from Kos]

117. yes, one may call the President a *$%^*& but not another poster

and DKos is filled with $%#*&$s.

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[banned from Kos]

165. MM is a loser at the voting booth. And the Dem President Obama is a winner!

But please - let me not get in your way of some good ole Obama bashing!

[Little Star]

18. Because at this point in time we need a challenger in 2012

more than we need a new senator for MA. Brown walks on eggshells here in MA. He is smart enough to not push his luck with a RW agenda. He is the least of our problems at this point.

[grahamhgreen]

45. Cuz obama is really sucking

[WillyT]

11. Dana Houle... Is That You ???

:shrug:

[girl gone mad]

13. Better than listening to bankster apologists.

Unless you love high unemployment, endless bailouts to financial parasites and widespread economic misery via policies designed to favor corporate and MIC welfare queens while crushing the productive sector.

Oh, wait.. you do!

[Little Star]

14. pffftttt

[Little Star]

38. pffffttttt

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[Ignis]

96. I'll compare Mr. Moore's accomplishments against yours, any day.

[banned from Kos]

101. Hilarious - posters here slam the President 24/7, but woe be unto you

if you dare criticize one Michael Moore and the firebaggers!

MM has his heart in the right place - he just is not the one you want deciding the Dem platform.

[Ignis]

103. So he's a loser because ... he's not a politician?

Oooooooooookay. :freak:

I've had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Moore twice. He's a mensch. He's done much more for progressive causes in America over the past two decades than...well, you, certainly.

[banned from Kos]

104. As I explained upthread, MM has loser positions and backs losers

like Nader in 2000.

Really, if Dems went all out for gun bans and against capitalism expect 25 Senators tops by 2020.

[CreekDog]

106. you might want to bolster that Master's Thesis you've got going here

seems a little, uh, thin. :think:

[Ignis]

115. So, because he supported "loser" positions--he, himself, is a loser?

Might I suggest you study the argumentum ad hominem a little more carefully, rather than simply providing examples thereof?

[defendandprotect]

151. Michael Moore would make a superior president -- on every issue -- !!!

There is no issue he's not familiar with -- AND ON THE CORRECT SIDE OF!!

[awoke_in_2003]

133. Oh, Michael's under the bus now? nt

[mmonk]

5. I attended. While I like Damon and would vote for him,

I'm not pinning my hopes on that. Actually, we were trying to figure out a way to get people in Washington to listen to us.

[TNLib]

8. If there was a viable 3rd party I'd have to leave DU

:-( But right now I can't think of anything else that would stop me from supporting it.

[BlueJazz]

16. Just from Matt's actions in this world, I'd vote for him. I believe he cares.

[Little Star]

20. I agree! He is the real thing when it comes to being left!!!

[Freddie Stubbs]

69. My neighbor's down syndrome son is a very caring guy, but it doesn't qualify him to be President

[Wait Wut]

78. Yep. There are thousands out there...

...that we could waste our time on. I like Matt, but we really don't need another bad actor for President. Let's try to think sensibly.

Oh...wait. This is a thread about MATT DAMON primaring our President. WTF am I thinking "sensibly". :eyes:

[TheKentuckian]

134. He's a quite decent actor, I don't think Ronnie Rayguns had a 'Good Will Hunting"

He has solid positions and can articulate them. That is a start, with some prep work he could debate almost any of the no nothing Washington crowd.

Most of these guys have no broad expertise or depth of understanding of policy. They spout talking points and let favored lobbies write legislation.

[CreekDog]

107. probably nicer than you --unless he posts that his neighbor isn't qualified to be president

that's what *you* do.

:eyes:

[JDPriestly]

110. Have you watched the videos of him talking about political issues?

He probably understands economics better than Obama does. I frankly wonder whether Obama has the reasoning ability to understand economics. Obama is great at human relations and language, but I wonder how good he is at math. I seriously wonder. I especially wonder how clever he is at arithmetic reasoning.

[defendandprotect]

169. Obviously, Obama isn't very good at Constitutional law, either -- !!!

Is the video that linked to in the OP or is it something else?

:)

[JDPriestly]

207. Actually, his concept of the separation of powers and the limitations

on his authority under the Constitution makes me agree with you about Obama and Constitutional law.

I think he has way overstepped with some of his use of military power in countries on whom Congress has not declared war among other things. Guantanamo is pretty outrageous in my view.

[mmonk]

119. Neither does sausage making with rightwingers "qualify" anyone.

[defendandprotect]

167. +1000% --

[BlueJazz]

121. With the crop of losers we've had lately, I'm not so sure about that.

[William769]

17. Interesting.

From No 1 fan to critic-in-chief, Damon takes aim at Obama

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/from-no-1-fan-to-criticinchief-damon-takes-aim-at-obama-2233622.html

[Little Star]

23. Nice find! Thanks!

[MissDeeds]

21. I'd love to see Matt Damon get into politics

He's always impressed me as someone who not only understands and believes in Democratic principles, but would fight for them. He could really be an asset to the party, but I'd like to see him start in the House or Senate and work his way up.

[Little Star]

24. Can we draft him? How does that work? Moore would help us.

[joshcryer]

26. Damon could actually be a formiable opponent to Obama in a primary.

Sheer celebrity alone added with the whole disenfranchised liberal base, and Damon's spectacular ability at rhetoric.

[Little Star]

29. I agree!

[William769]

34. I concur.

[joshcryer]

35. I have to admit, I didn't think there'd be anyone realistic as an opponent, but I could see Matt...

...being it. I will say though that I doubt he will primary Obama.

I'd be pleased to be wrong on that count.

[Raksha]

138. I agree - the great thing about a celebrity candidate

is that the corpomedia could NOT marginalize or ignore him the way they usually do with progressives, no matter how much they want to.

[defendandprotect]

168. +1000% ---

and wasn't Ronnie Reagan an actor?

[Vehl]

28. If Damon challenges Obama in 2012, I know Ill choose Damon for sure

I totally agree with Micheal Moore on this.

[Little Star]

31. Makes two of us!

[Enthusiast]

67. Three

[tblue]

32. And it doesn't hurt that Damon is hot.

Okay he doesn't have experience, but hell, he stands for sometime and he's got courage. How much worse can he be? With someone like that, we might have a chance of getting the young people excited about politics again. Maybe.

[hootinholler]

36. Oh sure when MM says it...

Everyone thinks it's a great idea.

When I say it, not so much.

:rofl:

-Hoot

[Little Star]

39. I missed when you said it. Next time you have a good idea pm me!

I would have been there for you if I had seen your post! :toast:

[JVS]

51. Mike stole your idea!

[IScreamSundays]

37. Matt Damon for my dinner date!!!

Yeah....that's right!

[Little Star]

40. well, there's that too! lol

[HappyMe]

43. yum.

Dinner, cocktails and a little dancing.

President --- I don't know.

[B Calm]

41. Unlike Obama, we would have a better chance Matt would turn out to be a democrat

[JDPriestly]

111. I would bet that Matt is a Democrat.

I don't think he would be a third party candidate.

[mmonk]

124. He is. The whole thing was about creating a movement within the party.

While a third one was left as an option in the discussion, it would not challenge in swing states but in decidedly red or blue states as a protest vote.

[grahamhgreen]

44. To the top!

[Vehl]

46. in case someone missed this news , -Actor Matt Damon defends teacher tenure in testy exchange

more here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1649375

[Number23]

48. Did FDL finally team up with The Desperate Blogger?

http://www.democratsforprogress.com/2011/08/08/wall-street-analysts-initiate-coverage-of-tea-party/

That's the only thing that could POSSIBLY make this make sense...

[mmonk]

53. Moore was a late addition to the meeting.

He had written something on a FDL blog and was invited to join in on the spur of the moment. Then he brought up Damon.

[BigBearJohn]

49. I'd vote for Matt Damon in a minute AND I'd like to have a beer with him.

[defendandprotect]

171. I'd vote for Matt Damon -- !! Looks like libs would have someplace to go, eh?????

[Little Star]

50. Moore wants Damon as president

The Bourne Identity star joined a teachers’ protest in Washington, D.C. last month to rally against standardized testing, and he recently voiced his disgust at the way politicians were stalling on a deal to raise the U.S. national debt ceiling.

Damon’s outspoken behaviour has caught the eye of documentary maker Moore and he’s convinced the Oscar winner would be an ideal candidate for the Democrats to run for office - and win - in 2012.

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/08/09/moore-wants-damon-as-president

[TBF]

52. Why the hell not?

This system is so screwed up and we all know the answer is to get rid of capitalism.

So why not have a nice looking president until we accomplish that?

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[mmonk]

57. You seem to be taking a black and white view of the world. Damon was an ardent

supporter of Obama at one time. He stands for economic and social justice. Unfortunately many in Washington had rather play politics.

[QC]

85. Disagreement with or criticism of Obama is racist.

That's been the rule around here for a while now.

[mmonk]

120. I know but ridiculous assumptions or insults do not deter me.

[Little Star]

59. Yeah, Dems donated, campaigned and voted for a

black President because they are racist and wanted him to fail.

Obama is the president and his color has nothing to do with Democrats who are unhappy with his performance. That my friend belongs on him and would if he were 100% white too.

Your comment is a big fat shit stirring fail!

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[Erose999]

55. "we’re going to be called the New Democrats" - Sorry Matt, but that name is already taken...

Lets pick a name that separates us from the DLC types.

[mmonk]

64. Mike came up with that when he was talking. He then said

the Roosevelts.

[Aerows]

60. I'd vote for him in a heartbeat.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

62. Hmmm, I think I like them apples.

[MilesColtrane]

68. Mike is flush.

He could bankroll a primary challenge against Obama.

Don't know if that's something that Matt Damon is interested in though.

[Vanje]

83. Buzz about a possible Matt Damon run...

....pumps up the idea of a legitimate challenge to Obama.

Maybe Obama's handlers will understand, and tell him,he has serious trouble with his left half.

[Shagbark Hickory]

70. Why some of these posts get locked and others do not I have no idea.

I'd love to say how I really feel and show my support for a certain someone but my understanding is that we aren't allowed to.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

74. I don't see a single deletion.

:shrug:

[Shagbark Hickory]

82. I was talking about the OP.

It discusses
(((whisper))) a primary challenger and (...sshhh...) new democratic party faction

[Vanje]

84. Primary challenges are cool

As I understand it, as long as a post supports a an Dem candidate, its cool. It does'nt have to be Obama.
Promoting a third party challenge on DU, would be another thing.

At least thats how I read the sitch.

[Shagbark Hickory]

91. ...

Yes of course the lines are blurred when the vast majority of people here (or at least the people that actually post) support a progressive liberal agenda but that does not necessarily mean they support the democratic party. There are a great deal of socialists here and people that would be probably best be categorized as greens. So one someone makes an oopsy and says the greens should run against our incumbent administration and that gets locked you can see how that would leave a lot of people here puzzled.

To be clear, the "democratic" in "democratic underground" refers to the democratic party. Or as republican's call it, the democrat party.

[William769]

98. So if he runs against Obama in the Primary as a Democrat, once again whats the problem?

It's not like this is the first time it has ever happened.

[Vanje]

190. Its blurry lines time

When the Democratic party fails to acknowledge its liberals, Is it any wonder that its liberals finally stop acknowledging their party?

Believe me! We very much want to stay.

I've been a Democrat all my life. I WANT to be a Democrat. I WANT like HELL to back Democratic candidates with all the enthusiasm I can bring.

The Republicans cannot be blamed for separating the Democratic Centrists from the Democratic Left. The Party did that to itself.
What hurts, is that they seemed to work very hard to shake loose their Liberal faction.
I don't understand that.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

86. "...new democratic party faction."

Nothing against the rules there. Nor is a primary challenge. By definition they're democratic processes.

:shrug:

[Shagbark Hickory]

89. ...

I get the sense that the powers that be on here are very pro-obama.

While it may not be a written rule, some things are frowned upon. :tinfoilhat: I remember a recent thread about the greens getting locked or deleted. It started out innocently enough. A lot of people here support the green party agenda as it's a very progressive liberal agenda.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

92. Progressive, liberal agenda?

:scared:

[Shagbark Hickory]

93. Am I not allowed to say the "L" word?

They took that from as well, did they?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

94. You can scream it here.

:shrug:

[Shagbark Hickory]

97. Then what did I say that had you shaking your head?

I figured it was the L word since the republibaggers made that a dirty word.

[Safetykitten]

75. Uh, no. The last thing we need is a celebrity, no matter how well intentioned.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

76. Name me a known politician that isn't a celebrity.

A ridiculous bar of participation, imho.

[Bluenorthwest]

87. He's not a 'celebrity' he is a man famous for his excellent artistic

output as an actor, writer and producer. Being famous does not reduce the reasons for one's fame, when they are present. Picasso was one of the most famous men of his time. Calling him a celebrity would be somewhat short of accurate.
The notion that people who become well known for cultural talents are to be put on a list with Paris Hilton and Snookie because they are also 'famous' is like equating Obama to one of those people.
An ignorant thing to say, that artists should be rejected because they are well known, no matter how good their intentions nor how brilliant their minds, how courageous their hearts might be.
Do you have other fields of labor that should also, in your view, be refused a franchise? Plumbers are always expensive and arrogant, they must not be elected!
I guess you support the idea that they should all be lawyers who never practiced and 'businessmen' who never succeeded?

[mmonk]

118. The right ran with one and the repercussions are exactly what we are dealing with today.

He in a way captured both parties. It's our turn.

[Little Star]

123. why? As long as they are Democrats there is no problem.

Obama became quite a celebrity during his primary.

Nothing wrong with a celebrity running. They have as much right and chance as anyone else.

[defendandprotect]

174. Wasn't Ronnie Reagan an actor/celebrity -- ? How did that work for GOP?

[Bluenorthwest]

88. Just want to say Matt Damon is better than he looks. Think about

that for a moment. A very smart man of strong ethics. I've vote for him.

[Romulox]

90. The cult of personality is what got us into this mess to begin with.

Damon may be a great guy, but NO MORE CELEBRITIES/RELATIVES OF PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS, please!

[defendandprotect]

175. Ah, NO ... the cult of MONEY -- corporate money -- got us Obama .... !!!

[JDPriestly]

99. Matt Damon for sure. He would be great.

He has good common sense and could gather real experts to give him good support.

Great pick!!!

And he has nothing to do.

[Desertrose]

100. Damon-Kucinich

Damon's *hotness* would balance out DK's (so called) *unelectable-ness*

:evilgrin:

[LeftinOH]

102. Matt Damon!!!:

[xchrom]

116. he probably wouldn't primary obama -- but i like the idea of a good looking, charismatic

person w/ strong positions{instead of what we have now} heating up the party at the top.

[WhoWantsToBeOccupied]

125. Please, Matt, please!

Obama has been an excellent Republican president. So, too, was Clinton.

Our political parties both work for the mega-corporations and the top 1% while the "bottom" 90% of Americans suffer.

America needs an FDR-esque progressive president, now more than ever.

It's so simple: End the wars. Slash defense spending and move the money to (re)building infrastructure (thus creating jobs) and maintaining state and local government jobs (teachers, librarians, firemen, etc.). Raise taxes on the wealthiest 2% of Americans. And re-regulate the banks.

It's a winning platform.

Please run, Matt!

Damon-Colbert 2012! (A bi-partisan ticket)

[Hubert Flottz]

128. K&R

I'd vote for him in a heartbeat!

[bloomington-lib]

129. I'd rather see him run for Congress or the Senate

We need a lot of people to vote for the things we want. The President seem more like a cheerleader.

[glinda]

131. He has a louder voice where he is right now.

[w4rma]

159. Completely untrue. Running would give Damon more attention. (nt)

[glinda]

210. Temporally more attention but then will be muzzled.

[Little Star]

196. Nope!

[Hubert Flottz]

132. 'Inside Job' is a great rundown on the problems on Wall Street

A must see video.

[Firebrand Gary]

135. I love Matt Damon.

[guruoo]

137. Warren-Damon? Damon-Warren? nt

[dreamnightwind]

141. I'm in!

Damon is da man. The real deal. He has the strength of his convictions, and his convictions are spot on. He has money, looks, intelligence, great name recognition and a huge amount of respect. Excellent candidate. I fnothing else, he is someone who would do a great job articulating the positions of the left, and the changes this country actually needs.

[Ikonoklast]

142. People here have totally lost their minds.

The guy is an actor. Why people think he would suddenly make a great politician amazes me.


He couldn't even enough votes to get on the ballot to run in any state primary

[AtomicKitten]

143. +1

[defendandprotect]

146. Obama is an actor -- recall campaign rhetoric -- the mask is off -- it's over -- !!

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[Blue-Jay]

187. space minus minus space

[Number23]

154. Completely and totally lost it. It's not even funny anymore.

The echo chamber has finally turned into an asylum.

[Number23]

155. killing the dupe bug!

[w4rma]

158. Obama is an actor, too. Except Obama is a complete con-artist of an actor. (nt)

[Ikonoklast]

166. If you believe that, then no Democrat will ever be good enough for you.

If Matt Damon ran and was elected mayor he would be eaten alive by a city council made up of the opposition.

I've seen political neophytes with good ideas but no clue how to implement them because they do not understand politics on any level get chewed up in the same way.

But DU wants him as president.

Wow.


Just....wow.


Both fringes have lots in common, they would vote in people that are clueless as to how a government works.

[defendandprotect]

179. ... and Obama hasn't been "eaten alive" by GOP and John Boehner ... ?? ROFL

Matt Damon is not "clueless" on an ything to do with govenrment --

and consider W Bush !!

[Ikonoklast]

182. Like I said, if you actually believe that, I'll never change your mind.

Matt Damon and I have one thing in common, however...neither of us will ever be elected president.

[defendandprotect]

189. It's rather difficult to deny if you saw what happened --

If Obama doesn't want to hurt the party further and also

lose the next election, he should stand down --

[defendandprotect]

177. +1000% ----

[mmonk]

162. I don't know of a politician that isn't an actor.

[joshcryer]

178. He's an actor with a formidble ability at rhetoric. He'd do better to have "practice"...

...as a governor or a senator or whatever, but in reality he could probably put up one fucking hell of a campaign if he wanted to.

[defendandprotect]

145. OK -- a democrat -- and I'd take Michael Moore for VP ... we need humanists in the White House!!

[jwhitesj]

152. I think he's would be a good choice.

I have thought about Matt Damon as a presidential canidate as well. I don't think it makes sense for him to make a run for 2012 though. I could possibly see him make a run at the senate to replace that republican seat in MA or possibly even governor. The earliest I see Damon actually make a decent presidential canidate is 2016, and that might be a little early. 2020 would probably make a lot of sense though.

[Number23]

153. You know, I thought the thread that showed Bernie Sanders losing to Obama

by 19 points. In Vermont, his home state. Among DEMOCRATS. Just when I thought that thread was the thread that truly captured the rabid cluelessness of posters here on DU.

I think the recs and show of support for this one prove me wrong... there aren't enough face palms in the world.

Michael Moore is great. I've loved every single Bourne movie and own them on DVD. And the bio on Damon in this article makes him sound like a good guy. But talk about a "solution" that not only hands the White House to the Repubs but makes the Dem party look like a laughingstock for at least a generation, and you couldn't get any better than MICHAEL MOORE suggesting MATT DAMON primary PRESIDENT OBAMA. Good Lord...

[pnwmom]

156. Reality check, please: Reagan was a 2 term Governor of California first.

I like Damon; but I'm sure he's not narcissistic enough to think he could run for President without having ANY political or managerial experience first.

[boston bean]

161. Obama won without any! LOL You can't make this stuff up! LOL

Truly LMAO!

Managerial experience.....

[pnwmom]

172. LOL! Obama was a U.S. SENATOR. You can't make this stuff up, indeed!

And before then, he was in the Illinois legislature for 12 years.

(Do you know the meaning of the word "or"?)

[Number23]

183. Awww geez. The fact that you even have to remind people of that...

This is by far the SINGLE most embarrassing thread I've seen on DU. Geez Louise. And I don't think it's a coincidence that the folks racing to show the entire world how clueless they are by embracing Matt FUCKING Damon for president are also the ones who do NOTHING but endlessly criticize this president.

Good Lord. I've been reading this thread with half my face covered it's been so cringingly bad.

[Ikonoklast]

186. Don't feel so bad, I've been laughing, then crying, then

And don't worry about this being the most embarrassing thread on DU.

Wait until next year.

This will seem rational by comparison.


Of, and for those that don't realize it, Michael Moore isn't even a Democrat as he himself has stated, be kinda hard to get him on the Democratic Party ticket.

[Little Star]

197. Yep, he voted present to prove it. lol

[defendandprotect]

180. True -- and then there was W Bush--!! Also a former Gov ... he screwed Tx... Reagan screwed CA...!!

[pnwmom]

184. They both GOT ELECTED. Damon hasn't shown an ability to be elected dogcatcher,

much less President of the U.S.

[defendandprotect]

188. What difference -- they were picked by corporations --- !!

The corporations have been giving us the candidates they want us to vote for --

and if we get it wrong, they make computer corrections!

Obama has shown that he is capable of not only destroying his own presidency but

the Democratic Party as well -- for the benefit of corporations ---

Follow the money --

[pnwmom]

193. Oh, right. And so you think this corporate conspiracy will be overcome by Matt Damon?

:rofl:

[defendandprotect]

199. You think because Obama is pro-corporate that Matt Damon would have to be ??

:rofl:

[pnwmom]

201. I think if the corporate conspiracy is so all-powerful Damon doesn't have a chance.

Unless he's one of their plants.

[defendandprotect]

202. I think that depends on individual candidates willing to SELL themselves ....

We need a humanist in the White House -- not a pro-corporate president --

[Starbucks Anarchist]

209. Who the hell do you think puts out movies like Damon's?

Yep, corporations. :eyes:

[Little Star]

163. I consider no political experience a plus.!

He has plenty of other experience. He has been a producer,a screenwriter and soon to be director.

I've had enough of those who have political experience anyway! Where has that ever got us??????????????

[banned from Kos]

194. The right says that about Herman Cain - the pizza guy

Why does a novice have an advantage?

[w4rma]

157. I would vote for Damon without a second thought. (nt)

[pnwmom]

173. And that's how many people voted for Obama, and now they're regretting it.

Voting without second thoughts is rarely a good idea.

[defendandprotect]

181. No -- they voted for Obama without realizing he was being given to them by corporations ... !!!

[TwilightGardener]

160. See, if I vote for a hottie just 'cause he's hot and says the right things,

I might as well be a Republican. But I'd be watching those pressers and speeches pretty consistently, yessir...;)

[lovuian]

176. Oh now that would be very cool

:woohoo:

[Cool Logic]

185. And his qualifications are....?

[banned from Kos]

191. None! This is a thread for dippy MM fans to whack off to.

Move along!

[Little Star]

200. Please Kos, consider taking this one back. I understand...

he was just to smart for your site. :eyes:

[banned from Kos]

203. Moore is not only a Nader loser - he is a stain on any pol he endorses

Do you think I will back off?

I care about Dem prospects in 2012 - a lot!

I don't want MM stinking up our party. He is a PR nightmare.

[Little Star]

198. He is a Progressive/Liberal and a fighter for the people not the

corporations. That alone gives him more qualifications than _______________ you fill in the blank!

[Cool Logic]

205. Forgive me, but I must have missed the fight...

I will be most appreciative if you will present a summary of the decisive rounds.

[Avalux]

204. Hs heart is definitely in the rght place, but he isn't qualified.

And don't tell me he doesn't need to be book learned in law and stuff, because then you'll sound like a Paln supporter.

[harmonicon]

208. What a shit idea. nt.