We're getting to see history being made, up close and personal

[MannyGoldstein]

The whole thing is melting down. It won't end without a lot of ugly, but there's a possibility it will end well, if we're smart, tough and persistent.

Even 15 or 20 years hence, many books will be written about what's going on now - if we still have the right to publish, of course.

Stay safe.

[FirstLight]

1. so freaking huge

Don't pretend to know whether we will have a 'meltdown' point or whether it's 'death my a thousand cuts'...but it *is* crumbling.

I am very grateful i am in a rural area and hope the crazy in the cities won't be as horrific as we know it can be.

Mr toad's wild ride, fo shoo!

[fascisthunter]

2. I Like Raavi Batra's Forecast

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. I am not sure, but mostly due to the major

pain.

[bananas]

12. What's his forecast? nt

[Ruby the Liberal]

14. That we are moving through cycles of golden ages, military. labor

It is an amazing read (and written for lay people, not wonkery)

I read it few years ago and couldn't put it down.

http://www.amazon.com/New-Golden-Age-Revolution-Corruption/dp/B005B1M4YS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312860116&sr=8-1

[fascisthunter]

33. sorry bananas... just saw your reply

Ruby's explanation is spot on

[Drale]

3. There is a reason for the old Chinese curse

May you live in interesting times. Its not a fun proposition.

[texanwitch]

4. Our depression will be different from the depression of the 30's.

There are more of us, and most of us live in the cities.


We are used to a decent lifestyle that our parents and grandparents could only dream of.


I don't know how all of this will play out but it will get ugly.


I am hoping for the best.


The rich just got to rich, something has to give.

[roamer65]

5. Most of us I don't think will live to see those books.

I really feel this is heading toward World War III.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. I am keeping notes

I fear the last chapter of that history of labor will have to be rewritten a few times, due to events on the ground though

[Modern_Matthew]

8. I'm only 23. I have a long road ahead of me... and that's just in my 20s. nt

[originalpckelly]

9. 25 here.

The party ain't over until I dress in drag and start singing baby.

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. Ok kids, when you are old and gray, IMAGINE

the stories you will be able to tell the grand kids...

Just hope it is not the horror stories I got to hear from dad before he passed ok.

:hi:

The kind I should write down, but I am not so sure it is the kind we should repeat.

[CleanGreenFuture]

15. They'll be telling the grandkids about a time when something called "oil"

flowed freely and powered a mighty civilization, then was the reason behind many wars, and then brought that civilizatin to it's knees once it was all used up.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. Did yoiu ever watch the Hstory Channel toon on this subject?

I don't remember the name of it, but it took a young EMT from San Diego (coincidence) starting in 2010 and ended up in 2100 or so.

Yep, it was about the collapse and it was disturbing, but true.

[CleanGreenFuture]

21. I remember that. It was an ABC TV production...the name of it

escapes me right now but it was a good show about the topic. I googled but no luck so far.

That show was narrated until the end of that person's life around 2100. But we don't even have that long. If oil is bouncing off $100/barrel now, what do you think it will look like in 20 years? Indeed, we have about another 25 years before there will be no more oil for the proles. After that, oil will only be available to government, military, and vital services - services which will be decided by someone other than us.

[BluePatriot]

28. Earth 2100?

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Earth2100/

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. I think so

[CleanGreenFuture]

31. That's it! Thank you. Too optimistic by half, but a plausible story.

[Odin2005]

16. I'm 25, too!

:hi:

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. Kids!!!!

:hi:

You are making me feel like this now.

[CleanGreenFuture]

23. That's how I had you pictured anyways, nadin, lol =)

[Odin2005]

25. I bet you want us to get off your lawn!

:rofl: :)

[CleanGreenFuture]

27. If you were on my lawn, I'd offer you an iced lemonaide and a

comfortable chair in which to sit and talk.

[nadinbrzezinski]

30. Me too

[CleanGreenFuture]

26. Hey, Odin... I'm familiar with your postings and I gotta say,

you seem very mature and exceptionally awake and aware of our predicament.

It's nice to know that youngsters like you and Modern_Matthew and originalpckelly and others are here and engaged.

Our future is in your hands. We'll need your youth and strength to get us through these interesting times. Thank you for being here.

[Odin2005]

32. Thanks!

:hi:

[unkachuck]

10. "The whole thing is melting down."

....as well it should, the whole system is built on a house of cards....can you think of a more stupid way to finance an economy or economic growth than to do it with a corrupt 'touchy-feely' system like capitalism?

....it has it's own destructive components built right into its base....all human systems are going to be corrupt to a certain extent, but what we've witnessed since 2008 has proven our systems' corruption can't be mitigated or contained before a complete economic meltdown occurs....

....now that's the REAL 'uncertainty' in our economy and country today....

[socialist_n_TN]

13. THAT'S a big 10=4 unk!

Like I've been telling these kids, it's the SYSTEM, not the actors in the system. As evil as they may be individually.

[CleanGreenFuture]

18. can you think of a more stupid way to finance an economy...

..and base an economy on finite resources.

[Odin2005]

17. It's like everything is going off the rails.

[femrap]

20. form local sustainable

groups. And get off the grid if possible. And refuse oppression.

[stevedeshazer]

24. We're gonna be different when we come out the other side of this wormhole.

Not gonna be in Kansas anymore.

A helluva lot depends on what happens in the coming days.

Jeez, Manny. Never seen anything like this.