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CleanGreenFuture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 02:45 AM
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DOW Futures up +281 ...
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 02:47 AM
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1. Only up 100 now
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CleanGreenFuture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 02:49 AM
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2. I'm seeing it at 204 on Bloomberg. Where are you watching?
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 03:00 AM
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3. 55 at 4am CNN has it at 101
Edited on Tue Aug-09-11 03:02 AM by Tunkamerica
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CleanGreenFuture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 03:06 AM
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5. Bounced off of 10 about a minute later and now back up above 40.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 03:00 AM
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4. There is a point where
"The Boys" will swoop in to grab bargins, I have found the time between the downs & ups tend to be shorter and shorter. We will see how this plays out.
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 03:06 AM
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6. ten minute delayed quotes direct from the CME...
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 03:15 AM
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7. Futures have been oscillating like crazy.
Edited on Tue Aug-09-11 03:16 AM by Demeter
Fear vs. greed.
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Skip_In_Boulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 06:05 AM
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8. Not only is the Dow up but also Nasdaq, and S&P
are up as well. While this might be encouraging it is still most likely going to be a long week. Let's just hope more bad news doesn't keep coming in.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 06:09 AM
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9. Printing more funny money
nt

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katnapped Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 06:36 AM
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10. WOOT!
Apparently those of us on the bottom haven't been fucked enough.

But hey, at least I can go buy a DVD player CHEEP! :sarcasm:
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 06:42 AM
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11. They need to or we hit the deflationary debt spiral.
That is very not funny.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 07:28 AM
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15. It's a name for a proposal to hand out "social credit" in Canada.
It's not a joke.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 07:06 AM
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12. actually, given how broken fiscal policy is, a little inflation is the next best thing.
inflation erodes the value of assets, but also erodes the cost of debt.

this is bad for the wealthy who aren't leveraged and also bad for retirees who have paid down their debts and live off fixed incomes. not good in that respect, which is why it's hardly the ideal solution.

however, it is good for people who are leveraged or who just have debt. and that's the real problem with this economy: too many people -- homeowners, the recently ill, etc. -- have too much debt and so their money goes to necessities and servicing their debt. so they have nothing leftover to really drive the econony.

inflation would make it easier for these people to pay their debts. at least, provided there's enough "inflation" to extend to the labor market so people are getting more cash to pay down their fixed debts.



to be clear, be competent FISCAL policy would be much preferred, but i don't see that happening anytime soon. failing that, inflation would be the next best thing.

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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 07:27 AM
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14. I thought the same damn thing when I heard that!
:rofl:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 07:18 AM
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13. This is market mechanics. Bargain hunting.
It isn't affirmation of deficit reduction madness. The fed is just creating a false economy on liquidity since there are no revenue flows.
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