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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 10:08 AM
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Obama administration denies immigration benefit for married gay couple
Citing the Defense of Marriage Act, the Obama administration denied immigration benefits to a married gay couple from San Francisco and ordered the expulsion of a man who is the primary caregiver to his AIDS-afflicted spouse. Bradford Wells, a U.S. citizen, and Anthony John Makk, a citizen of Australia, were married seven years ago in Massachusetts. They have lived together 19 years, mostly in an apartment in the Castro district. The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services denied Makk's application to be considered for permanent residency as a spouse of an American citizen, citing the 1996 law that denies all federal benefits to same-sex couples.

The decision was issued July 26. Immigration Equality, a gay-rights group that is working with the couple, received the notice Friday and made it public Monday. Makk was ordered to depart the United States by Aug. 25. Makk is the sole caregiver for Wells, who has severe health problems.

"I'm married just like any other married person in this country," Wells said. "At this point, the government can come in and take my husband and deport him. It's infuriating. It's upsetting. I have no power, no right to keep my husband in this country. I love this country, I live here, I pay taxes and I have no right to share my home with the person I married."...

"We are appealing to the Obama administration to begin to put into action what they've said repeatedly they can do," said Immigration Equality spokesman Steve Ralls. "The Department of Homeland Security and ICE have said again and again that they can exercise discretion in individual cases, but they have not done so for a single gay or lesbian couple yet."

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/08/08/BAO71KKPEC.DTL#ixzz1UXoiCxUw


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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 10:09 AM
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1. Well, color me rainbow
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 10:19 AM
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2. Chill the fuck out, he's got this.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 10:22 AM
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3. LOL!!
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 10:41 AM
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7. !
:evilgrin:
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 02:22 AM
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33. I smell a commission! The Board of Gay Standards Review. Six R's, six D's and a Martian.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 02:51 AM
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34. Don't forget the clergy! why do you hate God?
"and a Martian" u crack me up :)
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 10:32 AM
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4. At least somebody in the Compassion President's party is exhibiting some compassion:
'Drew Hammill, a spokesman for Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-San Francisco, said Pelosi has contacted immigration officials on behalf of the couple and "will be working to exhaust all appropriate immigration remedies that are open to pursue." '

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 10:40 AM
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5. Indeed. Thank you Rep Pelosi!!!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 06:12 PM
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25. .
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 10:40 AM
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6. "but they have not done so for a single gay or lesbian couple yet."
Now that is some fierce advocacy right there!
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 10:53 AM
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8. Those people just need to wait for him to finish evolving. n/t
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 03:16 AM
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36. Evolving?! EVOLUTION?!?!?!?!!!
Dark-sided! Dark-siiiiided!!!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 06:36 AM
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37. XOxoxo
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 10:56 AM
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9. K&R
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 11:01 AM
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10. He's not a KING!!1!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 11:02 AM
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12. It's just a pet issue for these two gays.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 11:03 AM
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13. They think he has a magic wand!
:cry:
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 07:11 PM
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29. I love you...
:yourock:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:30 PM
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30. Me too!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 11:02 AM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 04:02 PM
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:25 PM
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14. REPEAL DOMA - and call Sec. Napolitano and demand a reversal
comment line: 202-282-8495

http://www.dhs.gov/xutil/contactus.shtm
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:26 PM
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15. I bet they'd rather have PRESIDENT BACHMANN!11!11!!!1one
:sarcasm:
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 02:43 PM
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16. Kick because it's important...
:kick:
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 02:52 PM
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17. This is very sad and frustrating. Let's hope that Pelosi's efforts will have a positive outcome.
Pelosi's contact info (please be nice and succinct.)

You can email her but you'd have to lie about your location:
https://pelosi.house.gov/contact/email-me.shtml

Or phone or write.

Washington, DC Office
Representative Nancy Pelosi
235 Cannon HOB
Washington, D.C. 20515
Phone: (202) 225-4965


San Francisco Office
Representative Nancy Pelosi
90 7th Street, Suite 2-800
San Francisco, CA 94103
Phone: (415) 556-4862


Also, a link to Immigration Equality
http://www.immigrationequality.org/
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 10:29 PM
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31. since she's in House leadership she has a national contact form
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 02:19 AM
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32. Thank you! When I clicked on that link at work, it took me to an error page but it works now!
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Ninjaneer Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 02:56 PM
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18. K&R n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 02:58 PM
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19. I thought the administration had ditched DOMA.
Well, I'm an idiot.

I hope this means Nancy has this one.
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 06:35 PM
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28. The Administration ditched defending DOMA. It hasn't ditched enforcing DOMA.
It says that it will enforce DOMA until it is repealed or struck down by the Supreme Court, but in the mean time it will refuse to defend its constitutionality in court. (It has actually gone even further in some cases, and actively argued against its constitutionality.)

I understand their reasons for this policy when it comes to most of DOMA's applications. It makes some sense to say that the executive branch's determination that a law is unconstitutional should not enable the executive branch to unilaterally ignore the law. But it is not a reasonable policy when it comes to binational couples, who should at least get a moratorium on deportations to prevent them from being forcibly separated by a law that the Administration admits is unconstitutional.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 03:00 PM
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 03:51 PM
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21. The more you know...cause knowledge is power!
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 04:07 PM
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23. Everyone who can - especially advocacy orgs - should find the CIS office who handled the claim
Send letters of support. It may not do much, but if the case garners lots of mail/negative attention, it may be an incentive to exercise discretion (which, indeed, they are entitled to do).
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 05:10 PM
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24. Excellent advice WEL, thank you!
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 08:39 PM
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45. I have a wee bit of familiarity with the immigration system, and letters of support can
get entered into the record (at least where I've seen, although I have not worked with CIS). At the very least, it'll let the people handling this case - who can argue for the government's discretion - know that this family has a lot of people in their corner and a lot of people who are paying attention.
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 06:28 PM
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26. I don't know very much about immigration law, but I wonder about that analysis of discretion.
Edited on Tue Aug-09-11 06:29 PM by Unvanguard
As I understand it--and, again, I could very well be wrong--what ICE has said is that it can exercise discretion in its allocation of resources with respect to deportation/enforcement, i.e. it won't focus on deporting non-criminals, and will especially not focus on deporting non-criminals with family relationships with US citizens, including same-sex spouses.

But the couple in this case was not, as far as I can tell, immediately threatened with deportation, like most of the other binational same-sex couples whose stories make news. Rather, the non-citizen spouse applied for legal residency on the basis of his marriage. And that's not a matter of enforcement discretion: that's a certain legal benefit whose allocation is governed by statute, and the meaning of "spouse" within the statute is controlled by DOMA.

That doesn't excuse the policy, obviously, which is evil and gratuitously cruel, and plainly motivated by nothing more than bigotry. It doesn't even really excuse the Obama Administration, which could have and should have developed a more formal and reliable manner of protecting spouses in binational same-sex marriages than vague enforcement guidelines that may or may not apply to any particular case. (The same thing could be said more broadly about the Obama Administration's weakness of will when it comes to using executive power to protect immigrants and immigrant families, though it is especially egregious here because the policy in question is grounded in a statute that the Administration has rightly concluded is unconstitutional.) But, if I'm right, it goes some way toward understanding the balancing act the Obama Administration is engaged in here.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 06:29 PM
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27. recommend.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 03:09 AM
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35. But Obama directed the DOJ to stop defending DOMA!!111!11!!!
This I know, because TEH LIST tells me so!!!11!

Why do you hate America?!?!?!?1/1/111111!!!!1
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 06:57 AM
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38. Not defending the constitutionality
of a law in court, and not enforcing a law which is currently still in place are two very, very different things. Even the president is not free to simply break current law because he diagrees with it. He is not above the law.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 12:53 PM
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39. Except that little detail that he can exercise discretion in individual cases
Did you read that?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 05:00 PM
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40. Guess not
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:21 PM
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41. Guess he's not allowed to speak, either.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:29 PM
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43. Yes... because the President reviews each of the individual cases


Thousands of them... he does it in his spare time.


:eyes:


This kind of thing is done by low level staffers of various departments.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:28 PM
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42. It is amazing that some of you think that Obama PERSONALLY reviews these cases

The executive branch of the federal government is *HUGE*.


Yes... he sits at the top of it... but it is not like he micromanages every single department.


Doubtful that he even knows about this case yet.
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TriMera Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:35 PM
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44. Evolution. It's such a slow process. n/t
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