Live on BBC: No evidence Michael Duggan fired on police

[brooklynite]

Independent Police Complaint Commission

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14449675

[DevonRex]

1. Of course not. Who the hell would when the police had H&K submachine guns?

[FarCenter]

2. So Duggan was shot by what would be called a SWAT team in the US

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_MP5

I'm guessing that ordinary Bobbies don't carry these.

[DevonRex]

7. Yes. Except that particular unit targets gun and drug running by blacks.

[FarCenter]

9. Central Operations Specialist Firearms Command (CO19)

http://www.met.police.uk/co19/armed_response.htm

The Metropolitan Police Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9x19mm are equipped with a safe-semi-two round burst trigger group. So the two shots fired could have been from one accidental trigger pull.

[DevonRex]

10. Um hmm. I'm thinking newbie on the team got a little

too excited and fucked up. Then didn't even have the guts to actually have a self-inflicted wound. The round struck and stuck in his walkie talkie, I'm sure while it was on the ground rather than strapped to his side. Add a throwaway to the scene and voila!

[MountainLaurel]

3. Should I be surprised?

No one should.

[SteveM]

4. A very ominous update --

"Streets of London currently calm after Monday's night of mob violence, arson and looting - many shops and pubs boarded up"

The pubs, too? All is lost!

[brooklynite]

5. The Police basically told everyone to stay home tonight...

[SteveM]

8. Ah, best to stock up.

[malaise]

6. He was executed - that was known

all weekend. Only Murdoch's papers were still pushing the 'he fired first' meme.