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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 11:58 AM
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The Divided Left
The Satan Sandwich budget deal seems to have been left lying on the table in some television green rooms. Dylan Ratigan has begun cursing both political parties, even while still fantasizing about the President saving us. Keith Olbermann and Al Gore want a Tahrir Square in Washington, even while ignoring the actual preparations for it that are going on. Cornel West and Tavis Smiley, who are part of those preparations, were permitted onto CNN momentarily -- only to be informed that they should calm down about the wealth gap since poor people "even have refrigerators!" (The refrigerators are empty, but they look good in the kitchen!)

More and more people are fed up. Press releases and email alerts are reaching absurd extremes. With Congress reduced to a 12-member committee that will set our budgetary priorities for years to come, organizations are politely asking that the committee include one or two humane individuals, or that the committee's meetings be live-streamed or its decisions be posted publicly for 72 hours prior to being rammed down our throats. These absurd proposals come out of a divided left, one side of which is not ready to admit that nonviolent resistance is required or that Democrats ought to be held to the same standards as Republicans.

The public policy agenda of the groups building an independent nonviolent movement at http://october2011.org is virtually identical to that of the groups filming professional videos and sending around emails at http://contract.rebuildthedream.com The divide between these two sets of groups is largely a divide between those wanting to engage in nonviolent resistance even if the President is a Democrat and those wanting to do PR and make statements at least as long as the President is a Democrat. It's a divide, in other words, between independents and party loyalists, and between activists and lobbyists, to generalize very roughly.

This is a crying shame, in my opinion, because the insiders on the right fund the craziest of activist groups, while respectable organizations on the Professional Left would rather rearrange deck chairs on the Titanic so as not to be seated anywhere near the sort of people who are willing to go to jail for what they believe -- the sort of people we cheer for when we see them on TV in other countries. In fact October2011 has built alliances with those engaged in the same struggle in several other countries, and coordinated actions are planned in several countries in October.

Yes, some of the groups on the left that are willing to do serious activism have bizarre, crazy, or evil beliefs. But those beliefs rarely intrude on coalition work, and those groups are in a distinct minority in any coalition, serving primarily as an excuse for other groups to stick their noses in the air and rush off to draft a new Contract. Most of the participants joining in under the banner of any given group are doing so primarily because they can't in good conscience keep sitting still. They want to act. They want to hold a poster, so they hold the one that is stuck in their hand.

If other insider-focused leftist organizations that view their own ideologies as unsoiled were to engage in activism -- real activism that doesn't shut down when our misrepresentatives are Democrats -- then lots of people would take action under their banners instead, believe me.

The trouble is that we are at the point when even Al Gore wants a Tahrir Square, when the lack of resistance is going to take us barreling into fascism, and too many people are treating coalition building as polygamy (we don't want to marry you, just stand shoulder to shoulder in the daylight!) and nonviolent resistance as a lifestyle choice (we'd all prefer to be able to accomplish what's needed from an air-conditioned office, but that choice is no longer available).

Meanwhile many fully engaged in independent principled action would rather fail than join forces with others whom they see as corrupted or partially corrupted or -- what amounts to the same thing -- Democrats! Rather than struggle to maintain discipline and avoid unnecessary compromise with a vibrant movement, these activists would rather their efforts shrivel away in glorious purity. They are also reluctant to make plans for what comes the day after "Tahrir Square," for the actual implementation of power, for the inevitable compromises that must be made. This, too, is suicidal.

When Adolph Hitler took power in 1930, many workers wanted to resist and spontaneously protested, but the Social Democratic Party leadership and its followers decided the most appropriate thing to do would be to sit still and make comments. The Social Democrats worked to establish the "constitutionality" of the power grab and to prevent "premature" resistance from spreading. Meanwhile, the Communist Party was still avoiding any alliance with Social Democrats and even backing the Social Democrats' removal from government, basing these actions on the delusion that Hitler couldn't last long. Before long, however, the Communist leaders were dragged off to concentration camps. The Social Democrats and the trade union leaders still refused to oppose the Nazis. Then they were dragged off to the camps as well.

It's a good thing that can't happen here.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 12:02 PM
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1. I heard you mention www.October2011.org on kpfk
Edited on Wed Aug-10-11 12:04 PM by bananas
First I've heard of it, tell us more.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 05:03 PM
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15. Several posts on DU about it
OPEN LETTER: THE U.S. OCTOBER 2011 MOVEMENT STANDS IN SOLIDARITY WITH OUR GLOBAL ALLIES
Inspired by the courageous, nonviolent uprisings in Tunisia, Egypt, Bahrain, Yemen, Greece, Spain, and elsewhere, people in the United States have come together to form the October2011 Movement. This fusion of peace, social justice, environmental, student, and immigrant rights organizations is in solidarity with all who seek a peaceful, just, and sustainable future and stands ready to engage in its own campaign of nonviolent resistance beginning in Washington, D.C., this October.

http://october2011.org/welcome

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1235538

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x601892

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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 12:09 PM
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2. Washington DC isn't a good place for a revolution.
St. Louis would make much more sense. For a large number of reasons.

Sorry St. Louis.
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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 01:55 PM
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3. K+R!!
It is a shame. If we are to survive as a nation, we MUST put country first. Right is right and wrong is wrong, no matter who does it..........
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 02:13 PM
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4. 'The trouble is that we are at the point when even Al Gore wants a Tahrir Square'
Thank you for all you do David. It is sad that the Democrats are now so divided. I am sure though that those in power couldn't be happier.

Maybe everyone should email Keith some information on the plans for October.

I wonder if Rachel would help spread the word also, or is she restricted as far as what she can say and do on MSNBC?

:kick:
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 02:41 PM
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5. can't hurt to flood them both
keith is more likely
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 02:44 PM
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6. True, I'll do that, on Twitter which may be the best way
and email. And Rachel too, maybe Ed also ...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 03:10 PM
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9. Good idea.
Keith is a great idea because of his having independence on journalistic matters.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 02:49 PM
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7. Recommended. Thanks David.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 03:14 PM
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10. Thank you davidswanson !!!!!!!!!
:toast:
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Fuddnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 03:48 PM
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11. I'm buying an Amtrak ticket with an open return date tonight.
Got a sleeping bag, and will pick up a small tent this week.

See you there!
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 04:36 PM
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14. right on
see you soon
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pissed in WI Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 03:54 PM
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12. hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel these days
divide and conquer a smashing success
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 04:15 PM
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13. K&R
"The real truth that dare not speak itself is that no one is in control, absolutely no one. This stuff is ruled by the equations of dynamics and chaos. There may be entities seeking control, but to seek control is to take enormous aggravation upon yourself. It's like trying to control a dream."

~Terence McKenna, "Dreaming Awake at the End of Time"


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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 05:08 PM
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16. Thank you for all you do David!
Obama's biggest success was dividing the left - noticed that with the repeal of DADT, the dwindling representation at peace ralleys - Part of his strategy is the tea-bagger/GOP bashing....If we had a principled Democratic Party, the GOP wouldn't be an issue...
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 07:51 PM
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17. big honking k and r
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 10:42 PM
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18. REC. Thanks for keeping the message alive, David. Freedom Square on Oct. 6!!
Edited on Wed Aug-10-11 10:53 PM by bertman
You are correct that we all need to check our minor grievances with other factions of the movement and get behind this protest in October. From what I am reading here and on other sites, the momentum and the pledges of attendance are building.

You are the second person who commented on the interviewer's question to Cornel West and Tavis Smiley regarding all the 'stuff' that poor people in America have. From my perspective it looked like she was lobbing them a softball so they could knock it out of the park. As they did.

I, for one, don't think Dylan Ratigan was fantasizing about anything. He's not so stupid that he doesn't see that this President is a wholly-owned tool of the Banksters and MIC. In my opinion, he was using a rhetorical flourish to show exactly what a President with a backbone and a sense of obligation to the people of this nation SHOULD say in order to set this fucked up mess straight. He was slamming the two parties and the President at the same time. He knows that he would end up like Cenk Uygur if he says the truth, so he spoke the truth in a metaphor that was crystal clear to anyone who was watching but he protected himself at the same time. I'm absolutely thrilled that he is saying what he's saying. Name one other personality on a major network who is saying that. There are none. (Keith doesn't count on his new network whatever it is).

I wish we had ten more TeeVee talking heads who were "fantasizing" like Dylan Ratigan.

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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 10:43 PM
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19. all the left has to do is stop ignoring the right's best weapon- talk radio
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