Saw where voter fraud charges have been filed against 3 in North Carolina.

[mmonk]

Needless to say, I'm a little suspicious. The 3 supposedly voted in early voting and again on election day. I would love to investigate. We just happen to have a new Republican legislature that wants to limit or do away with early voting and require a voter ID. This (of course) happened in 2008. Did they just now discover this and how?

[AzWorker]

1. I would like to see a national holiday for voting

No early voting, absentee voting would require some serious cause.

I am also a big fan of the purple thumb after you vote, I hate the idea of vote fraud.

[mmonk]

2. I would too but I think it would be hard to vote twice unless no one

is keeping record.

[AzWorker]

7. Wear the 'purple thumb' as a badge of honor on voting day..

...thats what I say

[gratuitous]

3. Three votes out of how many total?

Certainly, any instance of fraud should be investigated and prosecuted. But if three out of some 4.2 million voters are all the fraud that has been uncovered, then I'd say the election was pretty clean and hardly requires any large scale "reform." But then again, in Republican eyes, too many of the "wrong" people won in North Carolina in 2008, so Something Must Be Done.

[kick-ass-bob]

4. Meanwhile, over 1 million registered NC voters have no picture ID.

Which is why they want to force a pic ID at the polling place.

Edit for link:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/politics/story/9059843/

[mmonk]

5. You have the facts to the matter.

[AzWorker]

6. Picture ID should be required...

....if you cannot afford the cost of one it should be provided.

Our votes are to important to have canceled out by fraud

[tpsbmam]

8. You don't have a profile so I have to assume you're new here given your paucity of posts

I just want you to know that you're arguing in favor of Republicans. The whole picture ID issue is another trick to disenfranchise voters. These particular tricks are aimed at low-income voters, voters with disabilities, Latino/Latina voters and others who the Republicans don't want voting.

FYI, as diverse as we Democrats are, I've never once heard a Democrat argue in favor of picture IDs.

[xchrom]

9. +1

[AzWorker]

10. Well...

I am in favor of one American, one vote. The thought of ANY American having their vote cancelled out by fraud disgusts me.

If we require States to provide State ID to those that can show indigent status then no one will be disinfranchised and they will get a .gov ID that will help them use benefits and programs in the future.

win-win

[marions ghost]

11. If fraud disgusts you

you'd better look at the bigger issues of election theft--tampering and "losing" votes by officials, electronic manipulation of votes, voter intimidation, deliberate misinformation, etc etc etc etc etc

Try the DU Election Reform group.

:eyes:

[AzWorker]

12. It does...

Fraud at any level should disgust ALL of us.

[marions ghost]

19. Sure

but look at the much bigger picture of fraud in elections.

DU Election Reform forum will help u make the connections. :hi:

[kick-ass-bob]

13. But this leans more to 1 American, 0 votes.

The number of people voting twice is dwarfed, overwhelmed even to the number of people who don't have said ID. There is no legal requirement for an individual to have a picture ID, so why would there be one in order to vote?

This is numbers-wise, a bigger fraud/disenfranchisement than even the worst in Chicago political history.

[JoePhilly]

15. Sounds like big government to me. How much is that going to cost?

Do we raise taxes to pay for it?

[electropop]

17. "Vote fraud" is retail - onesy-twosy, and mainly a Repig fantasy.

Election Fraud is wholesale, by the millions, and actually affects election results. It's a mainstream everyday Repig strategy.

[Lance_Boyle]

14. How would a voter ID requirement be 'aimed at Latino/Latina voters?'

Do Latino citizens face some additional hurdle in acquiring picture ID that other people do not?

[nc4bo]

16. Heard one of the women on an interview this morning and she said

she admitted having voted previously(?} and wanted to make sure her vote counted and told this to an election official(?) who then told her to go ahead and vote again(?)

When I first heard the story, couldn't understand why it took almost 3 years to sort this out and how much publicity the story is receiving. Also thought it ironic that this happened after the Great NC Republican takeover.

:shrug:

[marions ghost]

20. NC

is one of the most corrupt states re. elections. Long history of it. A sad fact.

[Lance_Boyle]

21. This may be true, but

if it is it does not speak highly of the Democratic party that was in firm control of the State's executive and legislative branches for most of the latter half of the 20th century and part of the new one.

[marions ghost]

22. Logical error:

How much of the success of NC Dems in the recent past is due to election issues or to the effect of their policies and other factors? Too many variables are present to make a simplistic conclusion.

As far as election corruption, the Dems in NC are still the lesser of two evils if you research it.

[Lance_Boyle]

23. As far as political corruption in NC

the Rs are mere neophytes compared to the NC Dem party. I expect this to change rapidly now that the Rs have attained significant political power, but I don't ever expect the NC Dems to be any less corrupt.

[marions ghost]

24. OK

so everybody's corrupt. :shrug:

Certainly we are a country drowning in corruption, greed and abuse of power.

[Mnemosyne]

18. Does Coulter live there too? n/t