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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 07:43 AM
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Daily Beast: Bachmann & Perry Both Have Deep Ties To Fringe Fundamentalist Movement Dominionism
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08/14/dominionism-michele-bachmann-and-rick-perry-s-dangerous-religious-bond.html

A Christian Plot for Domination?

Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry aren't just devout—both have deep ties to a fringe fundamentalist movement known as Dominionism, which says Christians should rule the world.

Aug 14, 2011 10:51 PM EDT

With Tim Pawlenty out of the presidential race, it is now fairly clear that the GOP candidate will either be Mitt Romney or someone who makes George W. Bush look like Tom Paine. Of the three most plausible candidates for the Republican nomination, two are deeply associated with a theocratic strain of Christian fundamentalism known as Dominionism. If you want to understand Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry, understanding Dominionism isn’t optional.

Put simply, Dominionism means that Christians have a God-given right to rule all earthly institutions. Originating among some of America’s most radical theocrats, it’s long had an influence on religious-right education and political organizing. But because it seems so outré, getting ordinary people to take it seriously can be difficult. Most writers, myself included, who explore it have been called paranoid. In a contemptuous 2006 First Things review of several books, including Kevin Phillips’ American Theocracy, and my own Kingdom Coming: The Rise of Christian Nationalism, conservative columnist Ross Douthat wrote, “the fear of theocracy has become a defining panic of the Bush era.”

Now, however, we have the most theocratic Republican field in American history, and suddenly, the concept of Dominionism is reaching mainstream audiences. Writing about Bachmann in The New Yorker this month, Ryan Lizza spent several paragraphs explaining how the premise fit into the Minnesota congresswoman’s intellectual and theological development. And a recent Texas Observer cover story on Rick Perry examined his relationship with the New Apostolic Reformation, a Dominionist variant of Pentecostalism that coalesced about a decade ago. “(W)hat makes the New Apostolic Reformation movement so potent is its growing fascination with infiltrating politics and government,” wrote Forrest Wilder. Its members “believe Christians—certain Christians—are destined to not just take ‘dominion’ over government, but stealthily climb to the commanding heights of what they term the ‘Seven Mountains’ of society, including the media and the arts and entertainment world.”

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Dominionism derives from a small fringe sect called Christian Reconstructionism, founded by a Calvinist theologian named R. J. Rushdoony in the 1960s. Christian Reconstructionism openly advocates replacing American law with the strictures of the Old Testament, replete with the death penalty for homosexuality, abortion, and even apostasy. The appeal of Christian Reconstructionism is, obviously, limited, and mainstream Christian right figures like Ralph Reed have denounced it.

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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 07:56 AM
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1. speaking in code vs. speaking in tongues.
Either way, America loses.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 07:57 AM
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2. This is literally the last thing we need.
Having crazy, delusional religious nuts running the country strikes me as a bad idea for some reason.
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 08:10 AM
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3. Bigot.
:evilgrin: Sorry, it was a long night last night and I'm sleep deprived. The teenager seems to be coming out in me this morning -- I couldn't resist!

:rofl:

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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 10:07 AM
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7. "Right, I'm a bigot, I know, but for the left." /nt
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Ineeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 08:13 AM
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4. And Dominionists wouldn't stop at our country...
they literally believe they must control the entire world. The effect of domestic policy outrages would pale in comparison to foreign policy/war.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 08:19 AM
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5. Yep I've been bitching about the talibornagain for years now. n/t
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 09:29 AM
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6. yuricareport.com is an incredible source for explaining
Dominionism. I initially thought it was a kook site, but this woman has assembled an astonishingly broad, deep and impressively documented analysis of these fascist know-nothings. Terrifying stuff indeed.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 10:33 AM
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8. Oh Snap! 'The Despoiling of America' is Katherine Yurica's seminal work
Perhaps a bit dated, but well worth a revisit. Katherine Yurica is the real deal.

http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 10:37 AM
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9. There's also a nasty overlap with other extreme-right elements
Christian Reconstructionism is currently just one element within Dominionism, and I suspect that the Dominionists who have arisen during the last decade may be doing their best to steer clear of the more extreme affiliations of the original Reconstructionists. But those elements were central back at the start and there's every reason to believe they remain present just under the surface.


http://articles.latimes.com/2003/oct/02/local/me-money2

October 02, 2003

Ahmanson's patronage benefits several nonprofit think tanks, including the Claremont Institute, where McClintock worked for two years after losing his 1994 run for state controller, and the Chalcedon Foundation, which promotes a brand of Christianity known as Christian Reconstructionism. . . .

In the 1980s and 1990s, Ahmanson served on Chalcedon's board of directors and was its largest benefactor, giving it at least $733,000. He remains a donor to the nonprofit organization, which was founded by Rousas John Rushdoony. Often called theologian to the religious right, Rushdoony, who died in 2001, advocated a nation ruled by Biblical law, a vision that assigned the death penalty for 18 sins, including murder, rape of a betrothed virgin, adultery and sodomy.


http://allisonkilkenny.com/2009/01/prop-8-part-of-christian-talibans-move-to-make-bible-the-law/

Ahmanson’s role in promoting Proposition 8 has drawn a lot of attention, but he appears to serve primarily as the money man, leaving his associates to carry out the practical details. One name in particular stands out as Ahmanson’s chief lieutenant: political consultant Wayne C. Johnson, whose Johnson Clark Associates (formerly Johnson & Associates) coordinated the Proposition 8 campaign. . . .

In a 1994 article on Christian Reconstructionism, Public Eye described Johnson’s central role in an Ahmanson-financed attempt by the Christian Right to take control of the California state legislation. The strategy involved first pushing through a term limits initiative, which was accomplished in 1990, and then promoting its own candidates for the seats this opened up:

. . . “Since the mid-1970s, the extreme Christian Right, under the tutelage of then-State Senator H. L Richardson, targeted open seats and would finance only challengers, not incumbents. By 1983, they were able to increase the number of what Johnson called ‘reasonably decent guys’ in the legislature from four to 27. At the Third Annual Northwest Conference for Reconstruction in 1983, Johnson stated that he believed they may achieve ‘political hegemony. . .in this generation.’”

The mention of H. L. “Bill” Richardson as the originator of the Johnson-Ahmanson strategy is both eye-catching and significant. Richardson, a former John Birch Society member, was considered to be one of the most extreme right-wing politicians of his time. In 1975, he co-founded Gun Owners of America (GOA), an organization which is widely regarded as being well to the right of the National Rife Association.


http://atheism.about.com/od/reconstructionist/p/Reconstructions.htm

Head of Gun Owners of America and English First, an anti-immigrant group, Larry Pratt bridges Christian Reconstructionism, white supremacism, and the radical militia movement. Co-chair of Pat Buchanan’s 1996 presidential campaign, Pratt bases his opposition to gun control on biblical principles, participated in Christian Identity gatherings, was a contributing editor of the anti-Semitic periodical United Sovereigns of America, and sees militias as a bulwark against anti-Christian government.

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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 10:40 AM
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10. W Bush was..
Edited on Mon Aug-15-11 10:42 AM by kwolf68
Just the opening salvo of this. W prattled about Jeebus and his holy-ness, but I never got the sense that the Dimbulb was really down with it. Sure, he put on the glove, prayed and sang hymns, but I never believe in his core that was who he was...W was a capitalist, clearing away the trees for the oligarchy, but a dominionist? Not sure about that one.

this new crew? I believe the Bachmanns, the Palins, the Perrys of the world are dangerous, because they see their religion as above EVERYTHING...above independent thinking, gays, women, other nations and the rule of law.

These people must be exposed for the charlatans they are and relegated to the dusty bins of militia history.
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bengalherder Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 12:21 PM
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11. Two of the best primary sources around are Daily Kos Diaries.
troutfishing (AKA Bruce Wilson of talk2action):http://dailykos.com/user/Troutfishing

and dogemperor, a survivor of a dominionist cult:http://dailykos.com/user/dogemperor ( I think she also has more recent stuff on other blogs, worth googling)

Both of these contain PRIMARY sources, videos, etc, that are documentation of what is going on with these people.

I do not recommend watching this shit alone, in dark rooms, after midnight.
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Cognitive_Resonance Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 12:37 PM
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12. Minor nit -- Pentecostalism and Fundamentalism are separate movements.
I don't believe many Pentecostals have been elected to national office. Rick Perry's bio indicates he was a Methodist (fundamentalist). Curious that he began rubbing elbows with fringe Pentecostals in recent years. Palin is also Pentecostal. During the 2008 campaign, John McCain cozied to a couple of leading Pentecostal televangelists including John Hagee. I have to wonder if there is a connection (e.g., well-placed political operative who is a Pentecostal Dominionist).
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Cognitive_Resonance Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 12:39 PM
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13. BTW Michele Bachmann is a Fundamentalist. nt
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 12:46 PM
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14. This is another case of right-wing projection.
Bachmann, Perry and their ilk keep saying that Muslims are trying to institute Sharia law. And it is THEY who want to institute Mosaic law, in all its Deuteronomic glory.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 03:21 AM
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15. +1.
If they do pass those laws against "all laws of foreign origin", it's really going to FU the plan. Either that, or we're going to have a losing battle explaining to them that the Jews didn't originate in Yonkers.
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