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Tue Aug-16-11 09:44 PM
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But we need a better business atmosphere before that will happen.
Has anyone here ran a business and knows what it really takes?
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BigGovtFan
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Tue Aug-16-11 09:46 PM
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1. is it possible to be anti-business, but pro-jobs? |
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Wed Aug-17-11 12:29 AM
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22. No one here is anti-business |
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However, most if not all of us are anti-big-corporations-who-don't-give-a-rat's-ass-about-anything-beyond-profits.
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Wed Aug-17-11 01:17 AM
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29. I dunno, but if you find anyone here who is "anti-business" do report back |
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My business makes more than Joe the Plumber's did.
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Tue Aug-16-11 09:48 PM
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3. What, exactly, would a "better business atmosphere" look like for you? |
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Tue Aug-16-11 09:51 PM
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4. something besides the atmosphere we have now. |
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This obviously isn't working.
I'm wondering what everyone's opinion is.
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Wed Aug-17-11 12:41 AM
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24. What would you identify as the reasons the current atmosphere isn't working? (nt) |
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Wed Aug-17-11 01:28 AM
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Edited on Wed Aug-17-11 01:32 AM by jberryhill
Well "BigGovtFan", I hate to disappoint you on your field trip to DU, so...
1. We need mandatory abortions for all first pregnancies.
2. Everyone is going to have to choose to be gay.
3. Christianity should be outlawed.
4. Minimum wage should be a million dollars a year.
5. Welfare should be a billion dollars a year, with no questions asked.
6. Death panels - lots and lots of death panels.
Ummm... Let's see, did I miss anything?
As a concession, we will eliminate the Martin Luther King holiday. Instead, every OTHER day will be a federal holiday, and MLK day will be the ONLY day out of the year that anybody has to work.
Deal?
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Wed Aug-17-11 02:33 AM
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Wed Aug-17-11 02:18 AM
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31. The atmosphere we have now has allowed Big Business like ExxonMobile to make record profits. |
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The atmosphere we have now is working out well for them. For the rest of us, not so much.
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Tue Aug-16-11 10:06 PM
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5. i believe in the confidence fairy |
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Tue Aug-16-11 10:59 PM
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6. Ladies and gentlemen we have a new Freeper. |
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Tue Aug-16-11 11:57 PM
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Wed Aug-17-11 12:25 PM
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Tue Aug-16-11 11:58 PM
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8. You mean like them fucks on Wall Street? |
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They sure knew how to come begging for tax dollars.
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Tue Aug-16-11 11:59 PM
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9. You need more than one job? Three would be uniquely American |
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Wed Aug-17-11 12:00 AM
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10. Why don't you tell us.... |
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Edited on Wed Aug-17-11 12:01 AM by senseandsensibility
although I'm sure it involves less taxes on the "job creators" and less regulation on them too, as well as no more unions. Have I about got it?
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Wed Aug-17-11 12:01 AM
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11. Businesses do not need to be coddled by the government |
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They are not sensitive to 'atmospheres' or nonsensical crap like that. You talk about businesses like they are helpless toddlers that need their diapers changed to stay alive.
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Wed Aug-17-11 12:08 AM
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12. Cute, stereotype much? |
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Wed Aug-17-11 12:10 AM
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13. No, we're all just a bunch of parasites around here. |
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Edited on Wed Aug-17-11 12:13 AM by mahina
right?
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Wed Aug-17-11 12:21 AM
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Thanks...back to parasitin'
lololol If he only knew!
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Wed Aug-17-11 12:14 AM
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15. God no, we're all on welfare here. |
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Wed Aug-17-11 12:27 PM
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38. Plus we're all "teh geigh". And poor. And lazy. And tax sponges. |
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We have bootstraps, but to hell with pulling them up . .. we would just fall down. So why bother?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Wed Aug-17-11 12:15 AM
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16. Why don't you tell us 'what it takes'? |
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Wed Aug-17-11 12:20 AM
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18. How many jobs do you want? |
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Just wondering.
Also, what do you suppose a pinger is?
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Wed Aug-17-11 12:26 AM
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Wed Aug-17-11 12:27 AM
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21. I've run a business, yes and YES I know what it takes |
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Regulation is NOT bad. Stupid regulation, OK. That's debatable.
The OMFGWTFBBQ meme of "government is bad" and "all regulation is bad" is utter nonsense.
and YES I'M A CAPITALIST ! lol
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Wed Aug-17-11 12:35 AM
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23. Yep. More than one. What it takes is fascism butting out. |
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It's not hard to run a business. Don't repeatedly do stupid things and you're ninety percent there - you don't have to be great. Hell, you don't even have to be that competent, really. There's plenty of people who will accept a mediocre, middle-of-the-road job or product, as long as it does its job. If you WANT to be high-end, of course you can. If you're good enough at something. Most of us aren't.
For me, a better business environment would be one with consistent, stable, high environmental and labor standards, so that my concern was running a business and not exploiting slaves. There would be few or no laws written by large corporations giving them unreasonable advantages over others. There would be regulations that were rational enough that I could predict with reasonable success what they are likely to say without having to have lawyers read every word of every one before even thinking about something new. It would be clear which government agency was responsible for what issue. The government would view American business as something of profound strategic value to the country, and it wouldn't allow globalists to devalue or damage it.
Basically, I want the government to keep gangsters, monopolists, protection rackets (including intellectual property), and financial manipulators off my back so I can serve my customers. Everything else I can handle, or I can find people to handle.
On the other hand, there's different kinds of people, and some of them prefer a really different kind of business, one that has little respect for the notion of consent, and views it as appropriate and normal for murderous hostility to be embedded in business relationships. I can't really imagine a country where they and I could conduct business at the same time.
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Wed Aug-17-11 01:04 AM
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25. I find my business takes a mastery of basic grammar |
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I am one of those people who voted for Obama with the understanding my taxes would increase, and he hasn't done it yet.
Of course, if they were increased by a LOT, I'd probably think about hiring another employee in order to bring my deductions up.
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Wed Aug-17-11 01:07 AM
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27. LOL! Teabaggers don't understand such strategies. n/t |
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Wed Aug-17-11 01:14 AM
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28. I'm not Scrooge McDuck... |
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And I don't really have much work that another employee could do.
But if tax rates went into something truly onerous, which isn't going to happen in any scenario, I'd hire someone to do nothing just to get under the line.
Heck, I'd hook up my computer to a bicycle generator and have them pedal it for six hours a day if I had to.
Instead, I guess I'll just have to donate to Democratic candidates in elections I care about. Who is running against Virginia Foxx this time around?
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Wed Aug-17-11 01:05 AM
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26. Been self-employed most of my life, have owned and managed 2 businesses. |
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Most all my democratic liberal friends are business owners.
WE know the differences between gross and net incomes, for instance. 'Taxes' never stopped anybody I know from growing a business since investments into a business are deductible.
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Wed Aug-17-11 04:19 AM
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35. The question that must be asked is |
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has the OP run a business? I have and I know what it takes to do so, one suspects by the OP's posting that perhaps they may not, but just guessin'. They do have those talking points down pretty well, but that is just an opinion.
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