Is the President finally listening to the left? Rachel Maddow and Ed Schultz discuss

[Scuba]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#44169176




Rachel and Ed discuss the Prez's trip to Iowa and what appears to be a confrontation attitude with Republicans. Campaign rhetoric or a shift in direction?

Runs just under 14 minutes.

[Shagbark Hickory]

1. Cliffs notes please. Is he or is he not?

[Scuba]

2. It's not clear at all. Words are cheap and easy....

...what he does over the next 15 months will be what matters. Four easy letters - J O B S

[WhiteTara]

4. Or at least try to get jobs bills passed in congress.

If they don't, people will see he's trying and that we need support in congress.

[HereSince1628]

10. That's more likely because he is really running out of time...

he's got 14 months to lead the gov't into doing something that significantly reduces unemployment.

A fair amount of that time will be wasted with the supercommittee hacking away at spending...which will further the perception that a jobs package can't be done because of its expense.

He can TRY to move something, he controls that part of the equation.

[polmaven]

13. That is exactly the way to go.

It is unlikely that anything the president proposes will go far in the Congress, but he will then have the proof that it is the Repubublicans who are holding this country back. Let him submit the proposals and then DARE the Republicans to vote againstthem it. Then, when they do, he will have some ammunition to show the country how despicable they really are.

[Erose999]

3. Its just his "campaign mode". The president's words mean nothing anymore. He will say anything to

anybody just to gain a point here or there. Its his actions one has to look to to gauge his support for the "base". And lately there doesn't seem to be any change in course there.

[JoePhilly]

7. So we won't be hearing any more screams of "bully pulpit"???

[Erose999]

9. Well its been 3 years and he ain't used it yet. Its obvious that more screaming at him to use it

ain't gonna do any good.

[theaocp]

21. The bully pulpit needs some villains.

As the NYT piece said and Ed reiterated it last night, call. them. out. They do have names. They sound like, "Republicans, Boehner, McConnell, Ryan," etc. What's with the, "Some in Washington..." schtick? They call Obama out BY NAME and he responds by tangential, inferential slights? :wtf:

[newfie11]

14. yes just like he did when first running

and we know how well he followed through with that.

[RKP5637]

15. He gives good speeches and often there it ends. I've often said he

tells people what they want to hear (like most politicians), but then that's called Obama bashing to point out reality. It seems to me anymore his base is wall street, banksters and some mega corporations. In our corrupt political system politicians look for where the money comes from, and that's not from the people in need, and probably not the majority of the democrats. So, it comes from the aforementioned and hence they get his support.

Until we fix the corrupt political system in this country and do public financing of elections, and dump Citizens United, nothing is going to change in the US, and it's really delusional to think change is coming. About the only change we're going to see is more people living on the streets and in poverty. And jobs aren't coming back, that is another delusion, to think jobs are coming back to the US under the current paradigm.

The system is rigged. Wall street, banksters and some mega corporations run this country. When you have a few percent of the population controlling the majority of the wealth in a failed capitalistic system for the masses, how can anyone think the masses run the system.

[BeyondGeography]

5. Mostly, he has nowhere else to go

[peace frog]

6. Don't bet the rent

Sayin' ain't doin', ya'll.

[vi5]

8. Yes, he's finally focused on jobs...

Unfortunately the only job he seems to be willing to fight for or get confrontational over is his own.

Too little. Too late. In fact it almost makes it worse that NOW, after all the smoke has cleared and the damage has been done, and he's caved on anything and everything that could be caved on, that NOW he starts to fight and get confrontational.

[Cool Logic]

11. "Is the President finally listening to the left? " Don't be silly...

The President always listens to his campaign strategists.

[newfie11]

12. If elected again

it will all be forgotten and back to same policies.

[Sherman A1]

18. Agreed

[Javaman]

19. yup, he's just campaigning now...

he's back to the pre-presidential rhetoric.

you know, the stuff we on the "professional left" eat up like good little puppies during his run for prez.

It's really insulting.

[xiamiam]

22. yep..insulting is the word..because millions of us are waiting for the last campaign rhetoric to be

enacted..like helping main street instead of wall street..what a joke. I believed it then. I can't listen to it now.

[Javaman]

23. once upon a time...

when george w. moron* spoke, I would turn off his whiny drone. I couldn't stomach his* overt stupidity.

now, when Obama speaks, I just get sick to my stomach over being had.

I haven't listened to him speak since the SoTU.

I just read his many many many speeches. It gets so down right depressing. The same crap over and over. the same wonderment as to why the repukes don't negotiate or compromise, etc.

I'm really tired of it all.

now that election season is upon us, all of them want to create jobs. the repukes spout off bullshit regarding their fabricated job creation numbers and Obama now wants to create jobs.

all the while during this mud slinging fight, only we the people get covered in it. Only it's not mud and smells a lot worse.

Those without jobs continue to go without jobs, those who try to make ends meet, continue to try and make ends meet, the corporations continue to make record profits and cry poverty, yet nothing changes.

the beltway morons no nothing of our plight. They live in the Potomac bubble of oz.

[peace frog]

20. No question

We brung him but he's too good to dance with us.

[madrchsod]

16. he listens to those who have the most money....

[Tippy]

17. K&R......

[bvar22]

24. No, its just Campaign Season again,

and Campaign Obama KNOWS how to really pour on the bullshit during a campaign.

Transparency
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5t8GdxFYBU

EFCA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMNVIQqatyU

NAFTA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LtbLEKHsi0&NR=1

Cadillac Tax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8wmN3wvhNM&feature=player_embedded

Support for LABOR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA9KC8SMu3o

Public Option & Mandates
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acc6Wn_BWlk



"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want a party that will STAND UP for Working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone

photo by bvar22
Shortly before Sen Wellstone was killed


"By their WORKS you will know them."


Solidarity!



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[xiamiam]

25. could barely make it thru the first clip

transparency my ass..
difficult and bitter pill..what he would do when he would be president and what he has done.