10 Reasons Why Corporations Aren’t People

[ashling]

10 Reasons Why Corporations Aren’t People

1. People generally pay their annual income taxes.

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3. People generally have to make their own breakfast, wipe their own asses, and drive themselves to work in a vehicle that’s cheaper than the mini bar on a corporate jet.


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9. People generally don’t purchase golden commodes in which to crap on their lunch breaks during an economic recession (see Meryl Lynch CEO).

10. People generally don’t refer to multinational, lifeless, amorphous engines of soul-sucking greed whose sole purpose is to downsize and shed hard-earned American jobs in order to tear apart the earth in the Third World and enslave its local populations as, well, people.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/08/13/10-reasons-corporations-arent-people/#more-9086

[Newest Reality]

1. One reason that they are most like people:

They defecate. I mean, huge, steaming piles, all the time. They excrete their smelly loads of disgusting offal in the name of profit.

And we are their toilet bowl. The have trained us to enjoy consumption of their movements and even crave more and more of it, regardless of the mounting, short and long-term, disastrous effect.

[Cool Logic]

2. A corporation is nothing more than a union of human beings...

in a cooperative endeavor.

Thus, any attributes or rights which its individual members have, are the attributes and rights which corporations have.

[Vincardog]

3. Bullshit. The individuals have the rights. The Corporations are artificial creations they have none

[Cool Logic]

8. Anyone can form a corporation (LLC) in a matter of minutes for +/- $40...

If I become a LLC, do I give up the right to speak?

[Vincardog]

17. according to you logic you passed it on to your LLC. IF that is your reality deal with it

[noiretextatique]

18. no..not as a person

but yes AS A CONSTRUCT, since constructs (e.g., abstract ideas are people) are just ideas, you are still free to speak as a person.

[Newest Reality]

4. The simple purpose of incorporation

was to limit liability for an individual/group when doing business. The corporate veil was a means to minimize risk, among other things.

How does limited or, in most cases, no liability imply the transfer of the rights of a natural person or a group of them?

[Cool Logic]

9. So, if I join the ACLU or the NRA, I no longer have the right to speak?

[noiretextatique]

7. a corporation is a business entity that makes money for its sharholders

and nothing more.

[Cool Logic]

10. Thus, we conclude: The man with an empty wallet, is the only man who is free to speak.

[noiretextatique]

12. a corporation is not a man or a woman

it is an "it," not a he or a she. and since corporations are not human beings they do not speak.

[hughee99]

13. If I remember right, John Edwards was a corporation.

One with a single shareholder (himself). In that sense, he was both a corporation and a "he".

[Cool Logic]

16. That is akin to saying that a solo vocalist can no longer sing, when they become member of a choir.

[fascisthunter]

14. a corporation is an "it"....

this new sophistry being promoted by right wing fascist think tanks is cute and clever, but no, it will never work, and I will laugh as I am now.

"Hey man, I'm going to play for a new team... it's made up of people... therefore, my team is a person."

Fucking dumb

[Cool Logic]

15. Well, those of us who are able to read, comprehend and interpret the Constitution, beg to differ...

Section 203 of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 prohibits unions and corporations (both for-profit and non-profit) from engaging in “electioneering communications...”The ACLU has consistently taken the position that section 203 is facially unconstitutional under the First Amendment because it permits the suppression of core political speech, and our amicus brief takes that position again.

http://www.aclu.org/free-speech/citizens-united-v-federal-election-commissionhttp://www.aclu.org/free-speech/citizens-united-v-federal-election-commission

[noiretextatique]

19. so some people believe a corp has the same rights and access

as a human being. got it. must be original intent. the founding fathers clearly thought IBM, a multinational corporation, is totally equal to me, an individual citizen of the usa, without a dime to buy congress, unlike IBM. hooray for "free speech"

[Cool Logic]

22. "the founding fathers clearly thought IBM, a multinational corporation, is totally equal to me,"

Actually, what they thought was that "you" are totally equal "me," regardless of whether you establish or join a corporate entity.

[begin_within]

21. A corporation is a separate legal entity from its members.

A corporation is a legal entity that is created under the laws of a specific state, designed to establish the corporate entity as a separate legal entity having its own privileges and liabilities distinct from those of its members.

Someone could sue a corporation, and because of the "corporate veil" the employees of the corporation and even the shareholders of the corporation would probably be legally shielded from exposure to that lawsuit - though in some cases the officers or directors of the corporation could have legal exposure to the lawsuit.

In rare cases a court may "lift" or "pierce" the corporate veil, finding officers, directors or even shareholders to be personally liable for the corporation's liabilities. But a court would have to decide that for a case.

[Viking12]

23. So who goes to jail when a corporation breaks the law?

if corporations enjoy all rights, they must equally accept responsibility, no?

[pipi_k]

5. I think it's closer to say

that corporations aren't people with the same rights as individuals.

Because if they aren't "people", then neither are schools, musical groups, senior citizen groups, neighborhoods, or countries.

IMO, both sides are correct...

:shrug:

[Broderick]

6. hmmmmmm

Well, I have a corporation. Board of directors is my wife, and myself. We are people.

I have some mutual funds, small, but they invest in public corporations. I am a person.

[IggleDoer]

11. Then can two corporations get married?

If so, can gay people form a "marital corporation?"

[noiretextatique]

kudos to these idiots who claim a corp is a person

but certainly not a gay person :scared:

[noiretextatique]

20. kudos to these idiots who claim a corp is a person

but certainly not a gay person :scared:

[66 dmhlt]

24. People?!? Then SHOW ME THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

[Zax2me]

25. You could substitue govt for corporations here.

Same thing.