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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 10:15 AM
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KBR Wants Former Employee Who Sued Over Rape To Pay Them $2M
Source: Talking Points Memo

KBR Wants Former Employee Who Sued Over Rape To Pay Them $2M
Ryan J. Reilly | August 23, 2011, 10:40AM


Military contractor KBR is trying to get a woman who said she was raped while working for them in Iraq to pay them $2 million to cover their court fees, claiming her $145 million lawsuit against them was frivolous and fabricated.

A jury rejected Jamie Leigh Jones' claim against the company last month. In a court filing, KBR said that Jones' claims were "frivolous, unreasonable, and groundless."

Jones said there is "nothing frivolous" about her claims, according to the Wall Street Journal, http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2011/08/23/kbr-requests-that-losing-rape-claimant-pay-companys-legal-fees/?mod=WSJBlogpointing out that a judge let the trial proceed and that the jury deliberated for over 10 hours before it reached its verdict.

Jones' lawyer Todd Kelly told WSJ's Law Blog that his client doesn't have the means to cover KBR's fee request. "They have beaten us and now they are attempting to crush us," he added. "This is an attempt by KBR to chill other people from bringing claims against them."

Read more: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/kbr_wants_former_employee_who_sued_over_rape_to_pay_them_2m.php#more
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 10:18 AM
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1. What absolute filth KBR is...knr
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 10:20 AM
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2. It did basically come out that she made it up. nt.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 10:27 AM
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4. Am I wrong that KBR "lost the rape kit" ???
Maybe I need to go read more on the latest of this case, but I followed it for years and it certainly seemed like they had railroaded this woman to a degree that left me gasping....
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 10:28 AM
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5. here is mother jones's take:
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/07/kbr-could-win-jamie-leigh-jones-rape-trial?page=2

She might have been raped, but she lied about just about every angle of it.
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 11:23 AM
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13. Umm sp did the rape victim Of Dominique stayed kahn
Same story... She may have been rape but maybe lied about a lot of things.... I don't like the pattern
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 11:25 AM
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15. There was no rape victim of DSK.
Just another false accuser looking to deep pockets for a wrongful payday.

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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 11:23 AM
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14. Umm sp did the rape victim Of Dominique stayed kahn
Same story... She may have been rape but maybe lied about a lot of things.... I don't like the pattern
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 11:20 AM
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11. This is the woman who testified before Congress ....
who required plastic surgery to restore her body?

Who whistleblew on KBR -- a criminal organization?

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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 12:01 PM
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16. Read the mother Jones link i posted above...
she made it up.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 03:11 PM
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25. That's a lot of presumption based on KBR's control over the case ....
Evidence: According to expert reports in the court files, Dr. Schultz found some fissuring, redness, and irritation in the pertinent areas. Schultz also reported finding four small bruises on Jones, but she said in her deposition that Jones "had no medical findings that needed hospital treatment." She also noted that while "Jamie had physical findings, I can't tell you if they were consistent with rape."


KBR is one of our filthiest corporations --

Back to the days of Brown & Root and LBJ in Vietnam --

and certainly today when we're paying the $1,000 a gallon for gasoline in Afghanistan --

which would keep a helicopter in the air for 1 minute.

These are private contractors --



Further, we also know that the number of female rapes in the military are extensive --

and again rarely reported. The insanity goes on and on.




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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 10:22 AM
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3. +1,000,000,000,000,000,000
May they all rot in hell--even if only in their own mind...
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indurancevile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 04:14 PM
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29. yep
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 10:30 AM
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6. That is par for the course. Beat 'em, then crush 'em.
This is the reason that there are not hundreds or thousands of rape cases in the courts.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 10:45 AM
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7. I'm generally a fan of loser-pays.
I'm more a fan of loser pays when the loser is found to have fabricated the case in a quest for a deep-pocket payday. Good luck to KBR (ptooey!) in recovering what they seek, though. Unless the false accuser gets the book or movie deals she's sought.

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 11:21 AM
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12. Simply more pro-corporate -- save their asses -- legislation ---
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 10:46 AM
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8. KBR=Revolting, classless, psychopathic thugs...
How dare this woman come forward and TELL THE TRUTH!

This is what happens in a country where the corporations are allowed to become "persons" and then morph
into the human equivalent of Jeffrey Dahmer.

Her attorney is absolutely correct. KBR is attempting to send a message to anyone who DARES to question
their sickness.

Their suit against her is frivolous, and they know it. She had the right to take them to court. Unfortunately,
in rape cases, there is often no proof--and the case becomes one side versus the other. It's not that her
complaint wasn't valid. She just didn't have the evidence to support her claims.

She has the right to use the court system to try to gain justice for herself. KBR knows this. They're
bullying her and anyone else who dares to go against them.

KBR is evil beyond repair. For more info on her case, watch the movie HOT COFFEE.
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 02:27 PM
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20. This isnt about "truth" its about the evidence and the jury
and in this case the jury made its decision based upon the evidence, its easy to hate kbr believe me I know how easy it is but in the end this is about what the evidence can prove or not prove and not how much we hate kbr.
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 10:55 AM
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9. KBR = what's wrong with America n/t
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 11:17 AM
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10. KBR should be in jail -- as the RW rises so does sexual perversion, abuse of women/children--!!
Edited on Tue Aug-23-11 11:18 AM by defendandprotect
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 07:06 PM
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32. So now that you've established that KBR should be treated like a
person and jailed, they can be treated like a person with rights, including free speech. Thanks for leading us to that point.

But like any other person, let's also give them the presumption of innocence before any jailing.

And the earlier case against KBR didn't even require guilt beyond a reasonable doubt - as a civil case, the burden of proof was merely the preponderance of the evidence - any amount beyond 50% would have been sufficient.



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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 09:43 PM
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33. KBR are one of our filthier corporations --
Edited on Tue Aug-23-11 09:43 PM by defendandprotect
The fact that they are run by "people" indicates only that they should be held accountable --

Any and all other "rights" which lead to non-accountability should be ended.

Corporations are not people - - they don't breathe, they have no human needs of any kind --

they have no conscience.

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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 12:08 PM
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17. Bastards!
:grr:
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Cool Logic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 12:32 PM
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18. In an effort to defraud KBS, this woman caused them to sustain a $2 million injury...
Thus, it is reasonable for KBS to seek relief for the harm she caused.
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 02:29 PM
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21. yes its reasonable for them to seek relief from her
but I cant help but hope that they are only awarded at most a single dollar.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 02:31 PM
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22. And have it trebled: $3 settlement. Or a bag of M&Ms...KBR's choice. nt
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 02:33 PM
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23. Or a gallon of gas.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 02:34 PM
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24. 3/4 gallon. Poured in the lobby of their office and ignited.
Scumbags. The woman was shamed for lying. That should be more than enough.
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Cool Logic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 04:04 PM
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28. Well then, your capacity to render an ethical judgment is impaired.
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 05:35 PM
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30. Actually its doing very well because i am basing it on facts
which is that the jury didnt find for her, if you got an issue with the ruling then take it up with them.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 03:14 PM
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26. KBR had total and complete control over the case -- and over the males she was accusing....
the idea that KBR are in any way trustworthy is inane!!
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Cool Logic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 04:02 PM
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27. However, the fact paint a different picture...
For it is the woman who was proven to be untrustworthy.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 09:45 PM
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34. There is no proof of that -- all the more likely that KBR engaged in a cover up ...
everything that happened, happened under their control --
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 01:05 PM
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19. Very sad K&R. I agree that they're trying to stop others from coming forward.
Make sure legal costs exceed a million each time and then dare the devastated ex-employees to sue.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 05:45 PM
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31. Through the looking glass...
...and past the freaking Twilight Zone.
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