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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:25 PM
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Marco Rubio: Medicare, Social Security ‘Weakened Us As People’, Made Us Lazy
These programs actually weakened us as a people. You see, almost forever, it was institutions in society that assumed the role of taking care of one another. If someone was sick in your family, you took care of them. If a neighbor met misfortune, you took care of them. You saved for your retirement and your future because you had to. We took these things upon ourselves in our communities, our families, and our homes, and our churches and our synagogues. But all that changed when the government began to assume those responsibilities. All of a sudden, for an increasing number of people in our nation, it was no longer necessary to worry about saving for security because that was the government’s job.

Hey, douchbag rubio, you can't save for retirement when your job is in India. You can't buy health care when the premiums go up 20% a year.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:27 PM
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1. link-o
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:29 PM
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4. Here is his speech - sorry
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:31 PM
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7. I'm sorry I asked.
Edited on Wed Aug-24-11 01:40 PM by RUMMYisFROSTED
Ptooey!
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RockaFowler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:27 PM
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2. Can we send him back to Cuba??
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:47 PM
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19. I don't think the Cubans would even waste the prison space
on this asshole. Though sending him out to cut cane 16 hours a day for a few years might have a beneficial effect on his obvious lack of character.
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RockaFowler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:54 PM
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23. +10000000000000
He is such a douchebag
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:28 PM
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3. But we HAVE been saving , that's #1. And what individuals with no families? I'd say


that Medicare and Social Security made us a stronger people, a connected people. These people think of themselves as islands, and they don't care about anyone else.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:37 PM
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10. A connected people?
The only thing that connects us seems to be the penalty for not paying our taxes.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:30 PM
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5. As if he ever worked a day in his life. nt
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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 05:36 AM
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43. He's what 13? And is just starting to pay his own bills, previously paid by the Florida GOP.
The little fucker.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:31 PM
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6. "institutions in society"
let me see, can I think of one word that could replace "institutions in society"? That's such an unwieldly circumlocution. "Institution" is some thing that is built, usually by a group of people -- and "society", well, that's ALL the people together. So what would we call something that was built up by all the people together? :think: I got it! :think:

GOVERNMENT!

stupid jackass
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:31 PM
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8. Keep talkin' bozo.
Glad you are telling the truth about Republican ideology. That'll go over BIG with the folks...
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:36 PM
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9. How does this dirtball get elected IN FLORIDA??!!
How many seniors voted for this sack of shite?! And why??!! :wtf:

P.S. People still save for retirement. That is, unless their 401(k)s get wiped out by his greedy Wall Street buddies.

P.P.S. If you have to give up your job to care for a sick and/or elderly family member, you are that much more likely to join the crush of foreclosures that have ruined Florida's (particularly South Florida's) real estate market.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:40 PM
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13. we had an opportunity to defeat him - unfortunately many D's would not
cast a pragmatic vote.

Hence Senator Rubio.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:52 PM
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21. The refusal to support the Democratic nominee and the ease
with which so many Florida 'Democrats' rushed to support Crist, the Palin plugging Republican reject with a franchise tan was a stunning testimony to Florida's election skills. What a display that was.
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Fuddnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:46 PM
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17. We have a lot of elderly with dementia.
They think Rubio is their grand-son.

Actually, the Florida Democratic Party is so incompetent and corrupt that they can't field any decent candidates. Alex Sink? Not even close. Kendrick Meek? Born loser.

And watch Bill Nelson get tossed next year. It's bad enough that he's a DINO, but the repukes are already running the Sink model against him. The Republican Governors Assn, and Karl Rove's GPS are already peppering the airwaves with anti-Nelson ads.

And by the time Nelson wakes up and leaves his C-Street prayer meeting, he'll be toast. He ain't running against a lunatic Katherine Harris this time.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 02:02 PM
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30. I think it's elderly with MONEY.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:38 PM
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11. Are there no prisons? Workhouses?
“Are there no prisons?” asked Scrooge.

“Plenty of prisons,” said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.

“And the Union workhouses?” demanded Scrooge. “Are they still in operation?”

“They are. Still,” returned the gentleman, “ I wish I could say they were not.”

“The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?” said Scrooge.

“Both very busy, sir.”

“Oh! I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course,” said Scrooge. “I’m very glad to hear it.”

This is the reality of right wing society and this is what we are heading for again if they have their way.
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:39 PM
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12. Attention senator Rubio. Social Security is a savings program. Each of my paychecks has a
deduction in the amount of 6.2% and the employer pays an identical amount. The amount paid by the employer is part of the surplus workers create through our labor. This surplus also allows for contributions to a pension plan, although such plans are nearing extinction while our wages have been stagnant for 35 years.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:43 PM
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14. "If someone was sick in your family, you took care of them. If a neighbor met misfortune, you took
care of them."

How nice and rosy.

In reality, people just died when they got sick, many of them in the streets. Well, that happens now but it was far worse then.
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indurancevile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 05:29 AM
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40. he means working people took care of rich people -- took care of their kids, took care of
Edited on Thu Aug-25-11 05:31 AM by indurancevile
their elderly, took care of their households.

he'd like it to be that way again, & it will be.

domestic service used to be a huge industry in the us. the upper-middle & the rich, and even the middle, used domestics. this culture vanished during the post-war era (except for the rich). why? because there were better jobs.

it's changing again. i now know moderately wealthy people who have household "staff", personal assistants, etc. this is a consequence of the increasingly skewed distribution of income & wealth. highly stratified societies have large servant classes. always. and highly stratified societies are not very productive societies -- workers are engaged in learning "skills" like how to stoop and bow most obsequiesly.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:45 PM
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15. Fortunately for him there are not that many people in Florida who
are living on Social Security or he would have a problem with re-election.
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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 05:37 AM
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44. I was thinking the exact same thing. Next re-election year is also a Presidential election.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:45 PM
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16. Just sent this everyone on my mailing list and asked those of my
friends who are Republican if they could enlighten me as to why they support these assholes. What ya wanna bet I get no responses?
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:59 PM
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26. If you do please let us know somehow nt
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Artie Bucco Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:47 PM
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18. I am sure his folks...
pulled themselves up by their bootstraps when they came here. I mean Cubans don't get much in the way of Federal Aid and handmedowns now do they.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 02:23 PM
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35. If his folks came here in the 50's or 60's they were the
rich that the revolutionaries were overthrowing. Mainly for ripping off the poor, something we are experiencing now.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:47 PM
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20. Why can't we beat these SOB's or do people not listen and see what the GOP is all about?
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 02:03 PM
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31. Unfortunately, Third Way Dems, including our President, are also on this policy bandwagon. nt
Edited on Wed Aug-24-11 02:04 PM by woo me with science
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:53 PM
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22. Caught 5 minutes of Limbaugh's replacement host today, and that was EXACTLY his message.
Americans have become weak and soft, and men tint their hair, and people used to WELCOME challenges, but now they are wussies AFRAID of cuts to SS and Medicare.

:wow:

No wonder the audience is evaporating.
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dtexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:57 PM
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24. Hmm, programs for the aged and disabled weakened us and made us lazy.
So all those disabled people are being lazy; and all those retired people?

Do these idiots ever listen to what comes out of their pieholes?
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 07:28 AM
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47. Of Course They Did
Grandma gets to sit around the heated retirement home rather than living hand to fist on the local steam grate. The one she had to fight that other Grandma to get. And she just goes to the dining room where people put food in front of her instead of having to dumpster dive for somebody's partially eaten Big Mac. Think of how much more physically fit she would be if she had to jump in and out of dumpsters. Lazy, lazy, lazy!!!
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:58 PM
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25. The Batista retirement plan: loot your country of all its wealth
before the people rise up and kick your asses out.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 02:00 PM
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27. The U.S. Senate is becoming a loony bin.
Rubio, Ayn Rand Paul, DeMented, the list goes on. Deliberative body my ass.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 02:00 PM
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28. You wouldn't think calling seniors lazy spendthrifts would go over well in Florida.
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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 05:44 AM
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46. I hop he talks a lot in the next 4 years, a lot. Lot's more Rubio please.
The senior citizens will run him out of Florida like a naked whore in an LDS church.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 02:01 PM
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29. This man is one sick bast***. Also doesn't know a da*n thing about history, nor cares.
Edited on Wed Aug-24-11 02:02 PM by WinkyDink
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 02:08 PM
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32. Yet, he seeks to suck at the teat of government largesse as a member of Congress.
Hypocrite, thy name is Marco Rubio.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 02:10 PM
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33. And Republicans consider him for high office.?????
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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 05:41 AM
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45. Yeah, he's the savior don't you know.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 02:16 PM
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34. I'm surprised the people in his audience falls for that.
Edited on Wed Aug-24-11 02:19 PM by EC
Take a look around them and ask themselves if they really, really think anyone in that audience would help them with tens of $1000's in medical costs, let alone help them cross the street.

On edit: Maybe he should look up the history of those programs and why they were needed to begin with...because churches and neighbors weren't taking care of people, let alone family members being able to. And that was when most households had only one working person, so someone was home to take care of elderly relatives which ended up breaking many families financially.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 02:24 PM
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36. Rubio is as "professional politician" as it comes...
Edited on Wed Aug-24-11 02:25 PM by JHB
1989: Graduated High School
1989-1996: College and Law School
1997-2000: Wikipedia is a little thin, but at least part was as City Commissioner for West Miami
2000-2009: Florida legislature, was speaker 2007-2009
2010: ran for and won US Senate seat

Did he ever even practice law before making it?

When did this guy ever hold a real job?

Aren't Republicans supposed to hate guys like this?
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 02:38 PM
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37. Nor can you help yourself if you were born with a disability. He is a
fool. What is wrong with people helping them each other?
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 03:40 PM
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38. He is so full of shit. nt
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Necronomiconomics Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 01:39 AM
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39. Do corporate handouts make us soft? Do subsidies for oil companies? Tax cuts for GOP pigs?
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indurancevile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 05:34 AM
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41. how would he know? he was born in 1971.
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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 05:35 AM
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42. This little bastard, who does this underage twerp think he is.
I am paying into my Medicare and Social Security. That makes it mine, not yours to call me weak for wanting to collect it one day. I paid for it you little shit.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 08:22 AM
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48. Rubio (or "Lil Jeb Bush) as he is known...
Edited on Thu Aug-25-11 08:24 AM by lib2DaBone
Is being touted on Fox Radio as the next Ronald Reagan.

Listening to my local Fox News Radio Station the other day.. caller after caller... fawning over a Rick Perry or Jeb Bush run.... (makes me sick just to hear it )

This country is circling the drain. We learned NOTHING after 8 years of an idiot from Texas and 911.

We're going to get a "NEW" idiot from Texas and a "New" 911.

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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 08:26 AM
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49. But but he saved Nancy Reagan...
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