jberryhill
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Fri Sep-30-11 07:24 PM
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If you are wanted for a deadly crime |
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You should:
1. Contact an attorney.
2. Turn yourself in for arraignment and trial.
It is not something NEW that suspect of multiple deadly crimes who are at large may be met with deadly force.
The problem of remaining at large is that you may be considered a risk to public safety.
This happened to John Dillinger, Bonnie & Clyde, and countless other suspects of deadly crimes who did not surrender.
The only sure route to preserving your right to Due Process is to make yourself available for it, by following steps one and two above.
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Fri Sep-30-11 07:30 PM
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1. Yep, running from the law and resisting arrest can have unfortunate consequences. |
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Fri Sep-30-11 07:31 PM
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2. And if you are the critic of the current President |
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Edited on Fri Sep-30-11 07:31 PM by FSogol
You should:
1. Act outraged over a justified act of war against Al Qaeda.
2. Post the message over and over.
Seriously. I don't get it either. :shrug:
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Fri Sep-30-11 07:43 PM
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5. There NEVER was a declaration of war..never so war powers act does not count |
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So your arguement is so stupid and without merit it is laughable. Shit, we have a war on drugs..Can I kill the asshole selling in the alleyway with a drone? We have a war on poverty can I kill the homeless with a missile? There is a war on ignorance...sadly, ignrance is winning.
The president cannot order the death of an American citizen sitting in a house in a foreign land because he made movies and gave speeches encouraging attacks against America. We can arrest him though..Not as glamorous as murder, but with murder you don't have to go through the whole Trial thing and all that damned burden of proof and evidence thingy...just kill him.
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Fri Sep-30-11 07:32 PM
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3. Nah.. That's way TOO MUCH confusion. Not valid. |
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Fri Sep-30-11 07:38 PM
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4. Exactly. Everyone acts like this is the same as taking someone out of a crowd and shooting them. |
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No, it's the elimination of a violent fugitive from justice, one who was tried and convicted in Yemen of conspiracy to commit murder, and had loudly trumpeted his involvement with several other episodes of violence including successful multiple murders, and the attempted bombing of an airliner over the US.
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Fri Sep-30-11 07:46 PM
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7. How many people is he accused of personally killing? |
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what weapons were at his disposal. so far the only weapons are WORDS. And being an american citizen, he has a right to free speech. If you disagree with that, then why is Glenn Beck allowed to walk America after using his show to tell how he wanted to kill Michael Moore? Beck was just as dangerous because there were only words.
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Fri Sep-30-11 08:27 PM
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12. Oh please. "Free speech" doesn't include equipping a man with a bomb and putting him on an airliner. |
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This is just getting pathetic, the levels to which people will twist and deny reality to justify this. Again: this is the guy who openly and repeatedly bragged about how he recruited the guy who attempted to blow up an airplane with his underwear. You understand that, right? "Speech" has nothing to do with it any more than we were trying to kill Bin Laden because we didn't like the production values of his video messages.
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Fri Sep-30-11 08:31 PM
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14. Advocating violence is *illegal*. Telling people to act out violence is *illegal*. |
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Nidal Malik Hasan, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, Sharif Mobley, Faisal Shahzad and Roshonara Choudhry were either people inspired by him or who had direct contact with him.
There's a reason advocating violence is banned on this forum. It is illegal.
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Fri Sep-30-11 08:33 PM
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15. He provided aid to the enemy with an intent to help cause harm |
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or great injury. That pretty much made him a legal military target, and now he is dead. As for free speech, you have a right to speak freely, you do NOT have a right to yell fire in a crowded theater.
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Fri Sep-30-11 08:35 PM
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16. Not only was he convicted of incitement to murder, his emails plotting the BA bombing are available |
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Fri Sep-30-11 08:30 PM
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13. I don't remember the false equivalence ever being this bad, and it just gets worse. |
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Not talking about you, as you're dead on. I admit as far as frequency it was far worse with Bin Laden, but a lot of those posters got TS'd (happily).
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Fri Sep-30-11 07:46 PM
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6. If you are wanted for a deadly crime you have been charged with it. |
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Sat Oct-01-11 04:26 PM
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17. Not at all. The police apprehend people before they're charged all the time. |
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In fact, suspects are almost never charged before they're brought in.
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Fri Sep-30-11 07:48 PM
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8. Consider for a moment the difference between wanted and guilty |
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Fri Sep-30-11 08:13 PM
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9. Yes, that is why you should turn yourself in |
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To enjoy the presumption of innocence and Due Process.
Because a dangerous criminal at large might get shot.
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Fri Sep-30-11 08:17 PM
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10. Is this list of people to be killed public? |
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How am I supposed to know if I'm wanted, if I haven't been indicted and nobody told me?
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Fri Sep-30-11 08:23 PM
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11. and if you haven't been charged with such a crime then best practice is to |
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report daily to the nearest precinct and double check and if they say you aren't wanted as no charges are on file just hang out until you are arrested for vagrancy or something.
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