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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 01:11 PM
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Tucson "shooting victim also witnessed Kent State shootings"
Edited on Sat Jan-15-11 01:12 PM by Cerridwen
The title at the link sucks, btw.

Randy Gardner was settling into a chair, chatting with an elderly woman also waiting to meet U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords last Saturday, when the sound of gunshots collapsed his world into a blur of gray figures and ricocheting screams.

It was only much later, as he lay on the ground with a bullet wound in the right foot that his mind hurtled back: May 4, 1970. Kent State University.

"Here I am again," he thought, "dodging bullets."

As a sophomore at Kent State, Gardner had joined a group of students protesting the Vietnam War, when members of the Ohio National Guard suddenly opened fire. He sprinted toward a field and "hit the ground" to avoid the bullets. Later, he discovered four of his classmates were killed, including a girl from his English class.



Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/15/20110115gabrielle-giffords-shooting-victim-kent-state-shootings-randy-gardner.html#ixzz1B83WbTsf


I've been trying to track the wounded to see what's up with them.

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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 01:14 PM
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1. Reminds me of the TV series "LOST".
Good luck just follows them around.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 01:25 PM
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2. The closest victim was 90 yards away from the guard.
Most of the victims were shot in the back or the side.

Yep, they posed a threat to the guardsmen.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 01:52 PM
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3. Thanks for reminding me.


Here are reminders of lesser known atrocities of that time:

On May 8, eleven people were bayonetted at the University of New Mexico by the New Mexico National Guard in a confrontation with student protesters. a link


And

The Jackson State killings occurred on Thursday/Friday May 14–15, 1970, at Jackson State College (now Jackson State University) in Jackson, Mississippi. A group of student protesters were confronted by city and state police. The police opened fire, killing two students and injuring twelve.<1> This happened only 10 days after National Guardsmen killed four students in similar protests at Kent State University in Ohio, which first captured national attention. wiki link


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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:07 PM
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11. I think the two killed were shot through a plate glass window
they were looking through.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:26 PM
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13. I'll take your word for it.
I can't look at anymore about that right now.

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 09:30 PM
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17. It's been a long time, memories die, memories change.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 01:54 PM
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4. So the shootings are now symbolically tied into both 9/11 and Kent State
Does anybody else get the feeling our great national drama is being written by a drunken playwright with a sick sense of humor?

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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 02:01 PM
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6. I hadn't even thought of that. You make a good point. n/t
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:09 PM
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12. That narrows it down to a few thousand playwrights.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 01:55 PM
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5. Great article....
Amazing what this man has experienced. What a cool man....glad his injuries aren't that bad.

Must read!

k and r.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 02:02 PM
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7. Thanks.
I hope the other wounded are doing as "well."

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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 02:35 PM
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9. Yes....he was lucky.
And the women he was sitting next to was killed. I simply can't imagine living through such a violent situation.

I haven't heard much of the others who are still hospitalized. And I'm still reading that 19 were injured/killed and in other reports it is 20.

But I haven't had the TV on. I get most of my news from DU...not MSM TV.

Did you know that the little girl that was murdered was the only girl on her softball team? Damn. Her poor parents.

My aunt just passed away yesterday....everything has been so sad. I hate going to funerals...they don't give me any peace whatsoever. I guess the Irish Wake might be better...it's a tad more of a celebration of life instead of all death-oriented.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 02:48 PM
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10. Awww, I'm sorry for your loss.
Funerals are...well, it depends on the family and friends I guess. My family has a bit more experience than I'd like and it does run the spectrum.

If I find more of how the wounded are doing, I'll be sure to post them.

Take care. :hug:

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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 02:30 PM
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8. Thanks for posting this. It is more important than most realize.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:27 PM
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14. You're welcome.
Why do you think it's so important right now. I'm just trying to track those less public but your post makes it sound like you might have other ideas?

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:30 PM
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15. Tracking is a great idea, and thanks for bringing the info.
:thumbsup:

K&r
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:33 PM
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16. Thanks for the k&r :) n/t
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 02:13 PM
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18. Kick. (nt)
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