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Sun Oct-09-11 11:46 AM
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Stop trying to pigeon hole or co-opt the OWS movement to fit your ideas |
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They are not a political party They don't need a leader (to sell them out) They don't need to run a candidate for congress They don't need to primary Obama
You cannot grasp that OWS is truly grass roots without an identifiable political agenda that has been tweaked by pollsters and politicians.
The System is broken and OWS are people who feel they've been fucked over by the Money, Politics, the 1% who own everything.
The longer this continues as a pure, uncorrupted Movement, the more the 1% is getting nervous. Go look at the media and politicians the 1% controls. They're getting scared and their "press" showing it.
Don't try to co-opt OWS. Damn the Man. Join the Movement. Freak out our Masters.
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Sun Oct-09-11 11:48 AM
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1. apparently -- strong 'party' supporters have to see OWS as some kind of threat. |
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not sure what the threat is though.
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Sun Oct-09-11 11:53 AM
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3. It obviously shows discontent with the current system which is led by a Democratic President. |
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Either that President is ineffectual or complicit.
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Sun Oct-09-11 12:14 PM
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7. I think you described it - there's no threat except that they're not a party |
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It's a primate thing. You gotta belong to a tribe, with an alpha male. Otherwise you're food, an aggressor, or unimportant. If there's too many of you to dismiss, then yes, it's "some kind of threat." And you won't ever figure out what kind.
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Sun Oct-09-11 11:52 PM
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14. I'm not sure where that is coming from. |
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Do you have a link to support that allegation?
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Sun Oct-09-11 11:51 AM
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2. those you have to explain it to, are never going to get it anyway. |
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Sun Oct-09-11 11:53 AM
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Nor can they begin to understand the impact.
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Sun Oct-09-11 11:57 AM
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with you and the OWS movement and I cannot see what the eventual impact will be, it's unfolding.
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Sun Oct-09-11 12:08 PM
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6. I have been arguing this point on facebook ad nauseum with libertarians... |
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Ron Paul is not the head of this movement. Some of his people think it is an easy matter to "convert" the lefties they disdain. FAIL. No one is listening. Neither is any Democrat going to co-opt the movement. That much I have figured out by listening to the anger expressed by the crowd. Democrats failed when given the mandate to lead. Now both parties need to follow meekly behind or or get out of the way and be left behind. No one who brings partisan politics to the discussions is welcome. I did not hear Obama's name mentioned even once at the rally. That is how much weight his words carry.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news for those who think OWS will follow any damn drummer who strikes a beat.
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Sun Oct-09-11 12:16 PM
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8. The Establishment DLC fuckers are trying to derail and co-opt us! |
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Sun Oct-09-11 01:31 PM
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9. If the Party system was working, we wouldn't need OWS. |
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Both parties have failed us: The GOP by standing always against The People. And the Dems for allowing it to happen (when they weren't acting like closet Republicans) and lying right to our face.
OWS is there precisely because the 2008 election did not bring the needed change. For whatever reason. And those excuses don't keep our jobs and homes from being taken away. We will no longer be mollified by an election.
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Sun Oct-09-11 02:43 PM
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10. They don't know who to talk to or bribe to make it stop. It scares the 1%. |
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Edited on Sun Oct-09-11 02:50 PM by pa28
It's the spontaneous, uncentralized spirit of OWS is part of it's brilliance and a big reason why fear is building on the other side.
When something is working you keep doing it. As long as this movement continues to grow all they have to do is stay peaceful and keep occupying.
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Sun Oct-09-11 02:50 PM
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11. Remember what frustrated MS about Linux? |
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That there was no "Linux" corporation whose best people could be bought off?
Now, you're gettin' it!
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Sun Oct-09-11 11:41 PM
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13. OPEN SOURCE GOVERNMENT n/t |
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Sun Oct-09-11 02:51 PM
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12. Bottom up movements frighten and disconcert the powerful "leaders". |
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The powerful will try to buy them out, sell them out, make them into a "threat", absorb them, chastise them, and try to "advise" and "help" them
All to retain themselves in power and defend the status quo no matter how corrupt and criminal.
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