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Mon Oct-10-11 10:31 PM
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Critics of OWS protestors say they're the fringe of the left |
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Edited on Mon Oct-10-11 10:32 PM by bigtree
. . . but they are beginning to look more and more like the mainstream coalition that ushered the nation's first black president into office.
The depth and breadth of concerns expressed by protestors and supporters is reminiscent of the populist movement which swept the Democrats back into power with so much optimism in 2008. It also resembles the coalition of mainstream Democratic voters who gathered in Washington at the behest of the comedian John Stewart before the midterm elections which swept Democrats out of power in the House and lessened their influence in the Senate.
All of those politicians who so arrogantly ignored the will of the folks who so enthusiastically and convincingly changed the political landscape by sending them to Washington should be on notice (watching the growing protest movement) that this generation isn't about to automatically recognize them the next time the voting comes around.
The new reality for politicians is that they may well be able to glean millions of dollars from corporate sponsors to play the candidate. They may even be able to squeak their way into office, but this generation can mobilize against them so quickly that they'll barely have time to warm their new seats before voters take to the streets to demand the politician's undivided attention to their concerns in office that they were promised in the campaign.
. . . talkin' 'bout a revolution!
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Mon Oct-10-11 10:41 PM
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1. And yet, I keep getting told that electoral politics is somehow "beneath" OWS... |
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Never mind the fact that that's how things get done--unless you want to break out the guns and stage an actual revolution. Either the people from OWS are participating in electoral politics or not.
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Mon Oct-10-11 10:43 PM
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2. The General Assembly replaces leaders and electoral politics. With us. |
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Tue Oct-11-11 02:03 AM
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7. Uh huh. And when that has the force of law, let me know. |
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Tue Oct-11-11 08:47 AM
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13. You might want to dust a few history books |
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on how populist movements influence law... start with the most obvious example, the New Deal and then graduate to the Civil Rights movement.. and that is only the 20th century. You want more? Try the ten hour and eight hour movements.
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Tue Oct-11-11 12:27 PM
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17. Guess what: the New Deal and civil rights laws were passed by Congress. |
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Not by sitting down in a park declaring your moral superiority because you're not going to be involved in electoral politics.
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Tue Oct-11-11 03:15 PM
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18. Guess what there were people in the streets. |
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Really read a little history.
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Mon Oct-10-11 10:46 PM
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3. I think there's another element |
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The protestors are generating expectations of change which will either persuade folks to the polls or dissuade them away from the politicians who ignore their concerns.
Legislatively, you're right. There will need to be some sort of merging of the complaints with some sort of legislative initiative for the protests to transform from agitation to action.
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Tue Oct-11-11 02:05 AM
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8. "Expectations" don't get people to the polls... |
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Which makes it so much collective masturbation unless there's real world effect.
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Mon Oct-10-11 10:46 PM
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4. Electoral politics didn't fucking work. |
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I guess changing who's fucking you is variety, but I wouldn't call it a win.
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Mon Oct-10-11 10:54 PM
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Slam, bam, thank you Mom.
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Tue Oct-11-11 02:06 AM
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9. Right, because Democrats and Republicans are exactly the same! |
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And there's no difference between Bush and Gore! :eyes:
Try peddling it to clueless angry Democrats circa 2000.
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Tue Oct-11-11 08:44 AM
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12. I'm opinionated enough, you don't need to put words in my mouth. |
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Mon Oct-10-11 10:48 PM
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5. Yeah, right... those two WWII vets I saw a picture of protesting |
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are the epitome of the radical left.
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Tue Oct-11-11 06:29 AM
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10. that was a great photo |
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many more just like that one . . .
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Tue Oct-11-11 06:32 AM
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11. TPTB always try to marginalize the opposition. |
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Tue Oct-11-11 09:36 AM
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Desperate times have a way of getting people out into the street. Recommended.
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Tue Oct-11-11 09:40 AM
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15. The the morons anything to the left of Mussolini is "Fringe" |
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Tue Oct-11-11 09:42 AM
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16. Critics of stupid fucking teabaggers say they are the fringe of the right |
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