This 1%er gets it.

[TalkingDog]

[mainer]

1. I think a lot of them do.

That's why they call it the "Buffett tax."

[OneGrassRoot]

7. It's mainly the Tea Partiers, part of the 99%, who are the most vocal...

AGAINST taxing the wealthy -- and the Republican politicians, of course.

I haven't seen many actually IN the 1% being vocal about not raising their taxes.

Then again, I realize the Republican politicians are doing the bidding for many of them, so they don't need to be publicly vocal themselves.

Still, I think there are more in the 1% who are willing to pay more than we may realize.

[Stinky The Clown]

26. I know. Isn't that just amazing? It is sort of a mental illness, to be so vocal in opposition to ...

. . . . one's self interest. It is, at the least, stupidity.

[IrishAle]

57. They Hope if they show themselves as Loyal..

that they will be allowed to sniff the Koch brothers fingers after they eat.

[Beavker]

89. +1

Man, I know a lot of people that fit this bill. They frankly don't now much about politics, for sure don't research or follow anything other than Fox or Rush, and basically seem to just go with the notion that it's sort of 'cool' to be the tea bagger (I'm big and bad, I don't need anyone, survival of the fittest, etc...). Yet, they are no better off than I am, and even havem more Gubmit access to things than I do (many ex- military, but finished before the War-a-thon we're in now).

[chervilant]

90. Actually,

IMHO, it's a pathology. Our species is teetering on the hairy verge of ecocide, driven in large part by our toxic economic behaviors. And, yet, here are these pathetic few, inexplicably devoted to amassing their filthy lucre.

Well, when things get REALLY bad, I guess they can burn it for heat...

[harun]

20. Problem is the greedy wannabe GOPr's, who think they are going

to be the 1% if all social programs are destroyed and they don't have to pay taxes anymore.

The real 1% know they don't do well if 99% is out to get them.

[EdMaven]

36. I think you're mistaken. Especially about Buffett. Most of his money is locked away where it's

protected from taxation.

[A HERETIC I AM]

37. How would that be, by the way?

I mean, if you are so familiar with Mr. Buffet's portfolio, perhaps you could expand on your claim.

[EdMaven]

46. lol. start here.

Buffett Foundation, Susan Thompson (fka Buffett Foundation)

Total assets: $2,517,560,936 as of 2008

Related corporation? YES
Corporation: Berkshire Hathaway

Trustees / directors: Susan A. Buffett, Chair. and Treas.; Allen Greenberg, Pres.; Melissa How, Secy.; Peter A. Buffett; Geoffrey Cowan; Carol Loomis; Patti Matson.

NOTE: The Susan Thompson Buffett Foundation is Warren Buffett's family foundation. The Susan A. Buffett Foundation belongs to his daughter.

http://www.thehowardgbuffettfoundation.org/

http://www.gatesfoundation.org/leadership/Pages/warren-buffett.aspx

http://www.sunshinelady.org/


Never understood why people are so gullible; right, the world's biggest billionaires are *all* for increasing taxes -- other people's taxes.


Buffett isn't the only billionaire who has argued for higher taxes. Both Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates and his father, Bill Gates, Sr., recently came out in support of a Washington state measure to "create a 5 percent tax rate on annual income exceeding $200,000 for individuals and $400,000 for couples, and a 9 percent tax rate on income that tops $500,000 for individuals and $1 million for couples."

Buffett has spoken out in the past about taxes for the wealthy, telling the Senate Finance Committee in 2007 that the estate tax should not be repealed. "I think we need to...take a little more out of the hides of guys like me," Buffett testified.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/21/warren-buffett-paying-more-taxes_n_786516.html


Are people making $200K people like him? Nah, that's a doctor's income.

Buffett won't be paying much in the way of estate taxes. Most of his "estate" will go to the various foundations controlled by his children & his peeps.

In 2006, Buffett pledged most of his fortune to the Gates Foundation and to four charitable trusts created by his family—the Susan Thompson Buffett Foundation, the Howard G. Buffett Foundation, the Susan A. Buffett Foundation, and the NoVo Foundation (led by Peter A. Buffett). His gift to the Gates Foundation of 10 million shares of Berkshire Hathaway stock, to be paid in annual installments, was worth approximately $31 billion in June 2006.


• The charity loophole. For billionaires like Mr. Buffett, the single most important deduction in the tax code is for charitable giving....Yet we don't hear Mr. Buffett calling for the elimination of that deduction in the name of fairness.


Editorial writer Mary Kissel on how Obama's taxes on "millionaires and billionaires" would hurt the middle class. Also, Bartley Fellow Charlie Dameron on Texas Governor Rick Perry's liabilities as a GOP presidential candidate.

Mr. Buffett has also already sheltered the bulk of his fortune from federal taxes by putting them into a foundation that will give the money away. That's an act of generosity, but if the government's purposes are so vital, why doesn't he simply give the money to the IRS?

Rebecca Quick of CNBC put that question to Mr. Buffett in 2007. His answer: "Well, that's a choice and it's an option . . . If I had to give it to a single individual, or make some young Buffett a multibillionaire, or give it to the government, I'd absolutely give it to the government. I think that on balance the Gates Foundation, my daughter's foundation, my two sons' foundations will do a better job with lower administrative costs and better selection of beneficiaries than the government."


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903918104576504650932556900.html

[A HERETIC I AM]

47. I see.

So you don't really know.

Got it.

[EdMaven]

50. Actually, I do: "Mr. Buffett has also already sheltered the bulk of his fortune

from federal taxes by putting them into a foundation..."

I also know that practically every big shot billionaire in the US has some kind of "foundation" & they're all tax shelters. They need only spend 5% of assets every year on the projects of their choice while making more than that on their "investments". Thus they can be eternal investment funds & major avenues for directing the flow of capital.

Trusts are another avenue; some go way back.

Bessemer Trust is a wealth management and investment advisory firm established in 1907 by Henry Phipps, a partner of Andrew Carnegie in the Carnegie Steel Company. From 1907 to 1974 the private company managed the substantial assets of the Phipps family and was headed by a family member. It has been ranked by FundFire as the number one private wealth management firm in the United States<1>

In 1974, Bessemer Trust Company's developed expertise allowed it to take on other clients through the creation of a national bank headquartered in New York City. In 1985, the business expanded to the Cayman Islands and the following year opened an office in London, England. In the mid 1990s, Bessemer Trust opened California branch offices in Los Angeles and San Francisco then in 2001 in Dallas, Texas.

The current Chairman of the Board of Directors of Bessemer Trust is the great grandson of Henry Phipps, Stuart S. Janney, III, who succeeded Ogden Mills Phipps in 1994.

[jpljr77]

70. Yes, but once he dies, that foundation's money passes to no one

It's not a trust, as you discuss in the latter part of your post. It's a foundation. And since a foundation can't be willed (only trusts can), all of the money in the foundation will stay in the foundation. No single person will control it once he passes. The foundation will be funded in perpetuity.

Is this better than just giving it all to the gov't? Probably not. Is it better than simply passing it on to heirs? Probably so.

[chervilant]

92. Of note,

contemporary research shows that 'philanthropic' redistribution of wealth is virtually meaningless in terms of any ACTUAL leveling of the radical income inequity threatening our nation's survival. IMHO, it is just a sop, intended to placate the easily manipulated hoi polloi. Case in point: watch ANY of Oprah's audiences during her 'giveaway' shows--truly pathetic. Oprah's 'largesse' hasn't put a miniscule DENT in her massive personal portfolio.

[GetRidOfThem]

83. I KNOW THIS PERSON!!!!!!

She is a member of my extended family. I won't reveal her name, all I can say is that she comes from a solid liberal background. Not only that, I had a family dinner with her mother just two days ago!!!!!!

Wow!!!!!

WAY TO GO!!!!

[HappyMe]

2. That's good.

I would bet that there are a lot more of her out there.

[seabeyond]

3. ahhhhhh. good for her. love it. nt

[OneGrassRoot]

4. As does this one....

http://www.elephantjournal.com/2011/10/why-would-a-millionaire-want-to-be-taxed/

Lake’s Wall Street success (and an unexpectedly large inheritance) ushered her into the ranks of American millionaires. Now a Seattle real estate developer, Lake spends less of her time attempting to multiply her riches than to get them more heavily taxed. She is an activist member of Responsible Wealth, a national network of over 700 business leaders and wealthy individuals who are in the top five percent of income and wealth in the U.S., and who advocate for “fair taxes and corporate accountability.”

Lake says that she came to this work by dint of what she calls a “dual citizenship” in the American economy. The daughter of a single parent who toiled as a secretary, Lake recalls that she was “a dumpster-diving kid way before it was fashionable. We knew the days that grocery stores would toss the expired milk and cheese; it was a weekly routine for us to visit the back of Winn-Dixie.

<snip>

“I have more than most, so I expect to pay more taxes. And I give away a lot of money. But it’s been frustrating to watch the rich get richer over the last fifteen years thanks to the hedge-fund clause and other financial policy decisions that have allowed extremely high-wage earners to pay the lowest possible tax on their earnings. It makes me mad that certain politicians keep harping about lower taxes while the tax on millionaires has not been this low since the 1920s.”

Beyond the issue of simple fairness, Lake is interested in shifting the collective consciousness that has allowed the gap between rich and poor to grow ever wider.

Thanks for the post.

K&R :hi:

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[liberal N proud]

6. The greedy ones either are in Congress or own a Congressman

[MrMickeysMom]

42. Totally agree with you....

Shit, even Warren Buffet agrees with you.

[Scout]

8. do you have a link to that photo? i'd like to post it on facebook....

i have a lot of conservative "friends" that need to see it....

[kag]

11. Great idea!

Hope you don't mind if I steal it. I have "friends" on FB that need to see this too. Not that it will change their minds about anything. Still, it feels good to confront them with truth and facts occaisionally.

[TalkingDog]

58. Right click your mouse

View image
Go to the address bar and copy the address of the image
Paste

That should do it.

[MedicalAdmin]

66. Right click on the pic and go to the source. Then paste the link in FB. N/t

[bananas]

67. Here's a slightly larger version (530x795 pixels)

http://millie-bell.tumblr.com/post/11265583405/yes-occupy
embedded in that page is 467x700 version,
click on the photo and you'll get a 530x795 version,
the url is time-stamped so I can't link directly to it.

Wonkette has a 494x741 version: http://wonkette.com/454587/heroic-rich-girl-wants-world-where-we-all-have-enough

[cui bono]

82. Right click the pic > save pic as > save it where you like, name it what you like...

then upload it.

Doing it this way doesn't use others' bandwidth. If you've ever seen those boxes that say that the pic isn't shown due to stolen bandwidth that's what they're talking about. Or sometimes you see exceeded bandwidth which also keeps your pic from being seen.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

9. I am in love.

:loveya:

[Odin2005]

12. Me too! What's her number?

:loveya:

[Fantastic Anarchist]

15. I wish I had it!

That is the gal for me!

[Roland99]

25. hmm...what's that guy behind her looking at?

[DirkGently]

10. It's not who you are or what you have. It's what you do about it. She rocks.

[TBF]

13. That's awesome. K&R nt

[dtexdem]

14. Good for her! But I doubt that even 1 in 100 of the one-percenters do get it.

;-)

[TalkingDog]

16. Hopefully the coming weeks will educate them.

n/t

[JoePhilly]

17. [phone]

[sabrina 1]

18. Good for her, and I'm sure there are others like her who care about

this country as a whole. The smart people know that if everyone is not being treated fairly, their own positions are in jeopardy over time also. The kind of inequality now evident in this country isn't good for anyone.

[themadstork]

29. This is what astonishes me sometimes,

that in the name of becoming hugely rich, so many will accept the general violence and instability that comes with great economic inequality. Wouldn't you rather have a few less ferraris if it meant not constantly worrying about the rabble chopping your head off?

[Dawson Leery]

19. k/r

[Raksha]

21. K & R - Beautiful!

[MindandSoul]

22. I always knew some in the 1% had brain AND heart!

[AverageJoe90]

54. Now those WITH a heart and soul who haven't already come out and supported us........

to put it frankly, need to stop being so timid and come out already. It's okay, if you legitimately and honestly support our cause, we welcome your friendship. :)

[mainer]

69. Maybe they're afraid of being attacked by both sides.

Those on the right will yell at them: "Then just give your own money to the government, traitor!"
Those on the left will yell: "Slimy one-percenter!" (Look at the attacks on Buffett here.)

Sometimes, it's best just to quietly do the right thing and not draw attention to yourself.

[AverageJoe90]

118. Ah, good point, I guess.

Can't really blame them........

[Liberal_Dog]

23. K & R

[itsallhappening]

24. Probably a plant.

[dsharp88]

39. Illogical. A plant would say/do the opposite...

i.e. say they're in the 99 percent, but oppose the occupy movement or, even worse, do something that would bring shame to the real 99%ers out there protesting.

[itsallhappening]

72. Not at all.

It's like the people who are Republicans but call in on the Democratic lines on CSPAN, pretending that they were big Obama supporters but now they're totally against him.

Plus, nobody in their right mind would go around advertising that type of self-hatred over having money. LOL

[cui bono]

84. I don't get it. What would a plant get out of pretending to support OWS as a 1%er?

:shrug:

And it's interesting that your take on this is "self-hatred over having money". I see it as her love of humanity and compassion. Very telling.

[itsallhappening]

93. Just like the example I gave in my previous post.

It's a social engineering method, used by all kinds of groups, regardless of their purpose.

[cui bono]

97. Your other example wasn't the same situation. Again, what does she have to gain from this?

In this particular situation. Specifically.

[itsallhappening]

99. If she's a plant....

and we don't know if she's a plant or if she's genuine, but if she's a plant the idea is to present a message that a) some in the 1% think their taxes should be raised, and b) why don't the REST of you?!?

Also, I wonder, if she has too much money and doesn't want it, is she handing it out to homeless people there? Starving kids in the area? Has she written a check to the Treasury as a voluntary contribution, which is easy to do?

[cui bono]

103. So that is helping the cause. How does that make her a plant?

And it's not really any of your business what she's done with her money. She's not demanding someone else to pay her share, she's asking to pay more.

[itsallhappening]

109. Because of the way I explained it.

You can plant supporters in crowds, you know. Sort of like the hand-made signs people are paid to make for political conventions, and then it looks like they made them at home and showed up with them.

I think your "it's none of your business what she does with her money" runs counter to one of the purposes of the demonstrators.

I don't think it's any of my business what ANYONE does with their money. But if someone is seriously advertising that they don't want their money, it's fair to ask who they're handing it out to on the streets.

[treestar]

98. But it does not harm the cause

It supports it.

A plant would be raving about how they hate the rich, to make the movement look bad.

For instance, take this article that right wingers rely on:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/eyewitness-history_595200.html

[itsallhappening]

100. That's what I mean.

You can have "pro" plants, not just "anti."

Sort of like the Teabaggers who were paid to go to Teabagger rallies.

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[itsallhappening]

73. This is the "I know you are but what am I?" response.

[Larry Ogg]

85. It's a distinct possibility...

Expect the PTB to use every means imaginable to infiltrate, defuse and crush any social uprising that threatens their hegemony.

Even the Tea baggers know something is very wrong in this country, they just let the evil psychopath insiders tell them what that something is.

[themadstork]

27. It's an interesting world

Many of the super-wealthy are like this woman. My girlfriend's family is "well off," but they are the most vigilantly generous/caring people I know. I was a lot more apathetic toward economic injustice generally before I met her. (I mean I had my pet causes and stuff I guess, but I hadn't thought or learnt about it systemically until her.) But then a nauseatingly large amount of our rich are exactly the brats you'd expect. . . I once saw someone throw away a brand-new pair of several-hundred-dollar boots! : (


The main problem is that the "good ones" do not seek positions of great authority. They have the power that great wealth naturally affords them, but that pales in comparison to those of their class that come to control the state apparatus, either formally or through cronyism. It's not clear to me how much sway the "good" rich have with those who actively undermine the interests of the many. I would guess that their status as "VIP" customers wherever they spend money would mean -something-. . . but even then I'd guess that our rulers fear the mob more.--All hail "the great beast!"

[Nye Bevan]

28. And her spelling is impeccable. Cool. Not all rich people are evil. (nt)

[FourScore]

30. K/R

[Indydem]

31. Very easy for her to support this cause.

She HAS her money.

Taxes are on income, not on wealth. She probably got set up all nice and pretty by daddy and now she doesn't care about those of us clawing and scratching to make it.

"Let them eat cake."

She isn't one of us, and if you think she's an ally because she holds a sign you are deluded.

[PragmaticLiberal]

34. If I understand you correctly, you're saying anyone who has money...

is inherently not our ally?

[Selatius]

48. It's the kind of logic that tends to pervade when one is locked into class war.

Some, obviously, won't trust simply because the person in question is on the right side of the picket line.

For some, it's a mistrust borne out of past experiences where those who claimed to be on their side used their good will in insidious ways to influence outcomes in a very slight, hidden, non-obvious ways. I guess one example would be moles being sent into student organizations like Students for a Democratic Society in the 1960s to disrupt and ultimately discredit the organization for its opposition to Viet Nam and the draft lottery and opposition to segregation and those who profited from the status quo.

Be that as it may, I welcome individuals like her. Any ally would be helpful, and if she means ill will in the end, I'd rather have her close enough to watch than somewhere I can't reach. Yes, I realize the gloominess of such a statement, but politics is war without guns.

[fujiyama]

44. She's not saying "let them eat cake"

She's saying the opposite - which is that she's fortunate and can afford to give back more to society as a percentage of her wealth and income. As a society, the most effective means to do that is through taxation.

What's your point? That those with money are inherently evil, untrustworthy, and incredibly greedy? Would it better for everyone to be equally poor and miserable?

[A HERETIC I AM]

49. On DU? Yes.

"What's your point? That those with money are inherently evil, untrustworthy, and incredibly greedy? Would it better for everyone to be equally poor and miserable?"

It is my considered opinion that many, MANY DU'rs think so.

[parkia00]

52. Unfortunately ...

some DU members share the same behavior patterns as Teabaggers. They may be from the opposite ends of the spectrum but the way they project their hatred, their inability or outright refusal to see any other view point other than their own and their and their pigheadedness reveal they were born in the same peapod. Just fell off the tree left of the fence; rather than right of the fence.

[whathehell]

62. There's this thing called "jealousy"

and it raises its ugly head here on

occasion, especially, it seems, when

the wealthy person is a "girl"

Female = Easy Target

Even on this supposedly "progressive" board.:eyes:

[whathehell]

61. Jealous much?

Would you say this about

FDR or Ted Kennedy?..She may

not even be THAT rich...Why are you dumping on her?

[MedicalAdmin]

68. Yessssssss - you are correct. The rich are all evil - always were.

After all FDR was a plant and didn't really do any of those things in office. It was all part of a larger plan....


(slaps head)


Sheesh.

[whathehell]

76. Maybe if she was Steve Jobs

or at least, you know...a GUY, they'd respect her.:eyes:

[MedicalAdmin]

113. I'm not sure if it's a gender issue, but I'll make an effort to look for the pattern ...

now that you have pointed it out.

But it seems clear that it is a class issue and this is exactly what the wingerdingers spout off about when they say we are engaged in class warfare. I know a few rich people; most are OK, some are great and a few are real slimy assholes. But in either case, I don't stereotype them.

Thanks for your input. It is worthy of note.

[whathehell]

116. Thank you.

It's not entirely gender, but I believe it's a good part.

You need only see the adoration bestowed on Jobs by many here and compare it

to the snide dismissiveness being thrown at this young woman.

Steve Jobs may have been "visionary", but he was also STRONGLY anti-union and anti-worker.

Beyond cutting off ALL corporate philanthropy in 1998, He outsourced all the work to China where the workers

are so mistreated they are sucicidal...They've had to put NETS outside the windows (Foxconn)

If you compare how this wealthy but generous woman is treated

next to the "visionary" but personally vile Jobs, I think

you'll see a good bit of the pattern.

[MedicalAdmin]

121. Personally I admire her.

I see it as being mostly about class as some of the same folks who crapped on Jobs (perhaps with good reason but showing a lack of class to do so immediately - just my opinion) are the same ones who took a shot at this young lady.

To me this is mostly a blind class issue. FDR, perhaps our greatest president, came from serious money. It's what you do with it, not where you came from. To turn this situation on it's head, what would these people say about someone who grew up in a gang neighborhood. Would that automatically make them gang members. I know many in freeperland who think so.

DU is, and should be, better than that.

[cui bono]

95. +1

I am amazed at the attitudes of DUers against people who are not only the 1% yet are like this woman. There was a thread in the last couple days about a woman lost her normal income and just because she lives in Brooklyn and has a yard she was labeled a 1%er in the thread title (which is so far off it's pathetic that it was done) and was then ridiculed and torn to shreds by DUers. I was sickened by that.

[MedicalAdmin]

112. I was discouraged by that too.

I had a conversation with friend of mine this morning and he asked if I considered him one of the 1%. He is a chiropractor, owns 3 properties including his office, lives well but modestly, and donates time, skill, energy and lots of his income to local charities. Him and his wife were instrumental in getting national laws passed dealing with missing and exploited children. By any accounts he is a pillar of the community.

And he had been sorta accused of being a one per-center by someone online. He is heading into retirement and really doesn't have much except his property to account for it. Don't get me wrong, he does OK, but in truth he is main street and not wall street. I told him he was no where near being a 1%. His patient bookings are down in the last few years and he hasn't let a single one of his staff go despite the fact that it would be the right business decision to do. He refuses to even consider it saying that they have families...

But I suspect that he would be pilloried here on DU because he worked his butt off and then gave most of it back to his community and nation. Er, I mean, stole from the masses and oppressed them.

Some on DU had better realize what the 99 is all about. It is about all of us in the 99%. The working class. And most of us are not part of that class. In fact 99% of us are not in that class.

[GetRidOfThem]

86. You don't know her. I do.

She is part of my extended family. I was really surprised when I saw the photo. Then again, the more I think of it, I'm not.

The whole family is very liberal and has a strong streak of activism. She's the real thing. She is also a very natural, warm, and unassuming person.

[MedicalAdmin]

114. Be sure to thank her.

We are ALL in this together.

[GetRidOfThem]

115. I'll most likely see her around Thanksgiving!

I already sent her mom the link to this thread. I am sure she is getting a kick out of it.

I'll let her know that many people on this forum are behind her.

[MedicalAdmin]

122. Thank you and welcome to DU. n/t

[treestar]

110. Why hold the sign then?

For crying out loud! Why reject support for the cause because of who it comes from?

She doesn't have to be there at all, then!

[w8liftinglady]

32. I admire her bravery. She was raised right!

[a la izquierda]

33. And herein lies the problem.

I saw this posted on FB. You should read the disparaging remarks towards this woman. "Fuck you, capitalist swine," and the like. I'm uncomfortable embracing any elements of the right (Ron Paul supporters, et al) in the OWS movement, but I'm also not suggesting this needs to be a Leftist purity movement.

[whathehell]

63. Of course....It's called "jealousy" with a big dose of mysogyny thrown in

Compare that with the virtual adoration of Steve Jobs

who hated unions, took the work to China

and, by all accounts, was NOT a kind or charitable human being.:eyes:

[cui bono]

101. Are you equating right with wealth and left with the rest? n/t

[a la izquierda]

117. No, I'm not

My uncle is loaded, and he's a liberal. So I don't equate the right with wealth necessarily. I equate the right in this day and age with complete insanity, erosion of women's rights, prevention of GLBT rights, the dumbing down of America, etc. I'm a little wary of the Ron Paul elements in the OWS movement. That said, I'm also a democratic socialist, but I don't believe those who are wealthy- and want to support OWS- should be shunned.
It's a conflicted position, I know. I'm having a hard time with my views on this.

[Narkos]

35. I'm probably one of the 5% and I stand with the 99%...n/t

[whathehell]

64. Me too. n/t

[Enthusiast]

80. I appreciate you

the rest of the 5% that share your sentiments. Seriously.

It isn't so much that the financial services industry made a bunch of money. It's that they did it at our expense. It caused so much hardship.

[Divine Discontent]

120. thank you, and to the trust fund lady who stood with her fellow human beings.

http://www.zazzle.com/republicans_2012_keeping_millions_out_of_work_bumper_sticker-128659602907896843?rf=238107662556833486

[aikoaiko]

38. No matter how cool, smart, and articulate, there is some guy in a green shirt checking your tush

It never fails.

[seabeyond]

79. or not. he could be looking at any number of things, or turning his head got caught there. BUT

we will always have members of du reducing women to a part of their body for their own entertainment. that is clear.

[aikoaiko]

87. Agreed.

[BrendaBrick]

104. I think he's reading the back of the sign,

which probably says the same thing.

[Shanti Mama]

40. Mostly positive comments for her, but

Negative on the freelance writer in Brooklyn who saw the light through farming in her back yard.
Why?

[Number23]

43. Damn good question.

But as I said in that thread, just look at where most of the criticism was coming from. Told you all you needed to know.

[cui bono]

102. I think the completely incorrect thread title and the smarmy OP led the charge.

She was labeled as a 1%er, when it was completely obvious she was not one, not even close, and then the OP was completely atagonistic towards her and said the article was "full of lulz". Then I guess the DU sheeples just piled on, looking for things to ridicule her about. It was like they all grabbed their pitchforks and torches and came after her in a mob. It was truly sickening.

[treestar]

111. It is an odd thing for any political operative to reject

support to their ideas because of who says it. It's like saying they want to be the underdog/outsider because they like that status!

Oh no, some of the 1% support them! But they wanted to hate them. This wrecks some of that.

[MorningGlow]

45. John Cusack is getting beaten up on Twitter for the same reason

Apparently people with money are not supposed to sympathize...? :shrug:

He explains it thusly to a confused Tweeter, @JaredMcConnell:

(JM) So... are you just a supporter of #occupywallst? Aren't you rich and successful?

(JC) THINK man, think..

(JM)@ I didn't mean that in a bad way. Just don't understand how you are affected.

(JC) in the big picture they stole my tax money as well --i pay for their wars and bailouts and gov contacts and privatized everything at cost plus when they tax me each job every year.. smaller more personel-i payed for each of my parents health care if they didnt have it they would have been in deep trouble my mother pays a extra fee when she keeps less then a thousand dollars in the bank. no what is that designed t o do besides screw the poor...the interest rates of her cards is straight up usury-- now none of these things matter to her because i have been fortunate enough to make a great living.. but i am lucky..my family is lucky... there's just a couple of examples-- the list goes on and on..

[Utopian Leftist]

51. Bless his (JC) heart! ... for taking a stand!

I sold a t-shirt to John Cusack in 1988 at a Jesse Jackson benefit in Baldwin Hills, CA. Very cool guy.

[MorningGlow]

71. I absolutely love that man

and his raging liberal blessed heart!

Welcome to DU! :toast:

[AverageJoe90]

55. Kudos to John Cusack! nt

[AverageJoe90]

53. She may have been wealthy.........

but, in my opinion, if she truly does believe in our cause, then I for one, welcome this brave lady into our ranks. :)

[GetRidOfThem]

108. She is the real thing. I know her and her family.

She is the granddaughter of my mother-in-law's sister. The entire clan is very liberal and genuine. And there has always been an activist streak in the bunch - my wife and I have demonstrated with her mother and step-father during the Bush years.

[AverageJoe90]

119. That's most enlightening and assuring to hear. =)

I wish the best for her and all her family. :hi:

[Fearless]

56. DU seems to believe a lot about a person based on a photo...

The only think I can infer from it is that she has taken her time to be there. Either in a serious or lighthearted way, it can't be told by the photo. That's all. It seems like half the people here have known her since birth! Either that or they have far greater powers of perception than I can ever hope to gain.

[lunatica]

59. If we treat the 1% uniformly with disdain we're no better than they are

The Rockefeller Foundation eradicated Small Pox in the world. It wasn't the World Health Foundation. It was the Richest family in the US, if not the world.

[demmiblue]

60. K&R

:kick:

[TenPercentRule]

65. K&R

[realFedUp]

74. I am an occupier

I'm there in spirit.
How will this action and movement translate into real reform?

Corporations need to pay taxes from profits made offshore and pay their fair share
Corporations need to be prosecuted for crimes
Corporations aren't people
Corporations need to be regulated
Banks need to go back to banking and lending, not speculating

Those who commit crimes should be prosecuted, including those in Bush Inc. who laid this country to waste in large part

Obama Inc. should eliminate the tax cuts for the rich and prosecute those who commmitted fraud and crimes.

Oh, and can we get our asses out of the wars we caused please Mr. President, finally?

[PatSeg]

75. K&R

[DeepModem Mom]

77. K&R

[Drale]

78. I have no doubt they "get it"

but the question is do they care and 99.9% of them don't.

[justiceischeap]

81. Several 1%'s get it. Mostly liberal entertainers that have said, "Tax me more..."

They know they can afford it. They know it'll never touch anything but their interest on the capital they have. Bill Maher says on his show every week, tax me more. Here's an article about it:
http://www.faireconomy.org/press_room/2011/wealthy_new_yorkers_celebrities_call_for_higher_taxes_on_themselves

Not all 1%'s are douches. Just because they hit the cosmic lottery and earn a shitload of money doesn't make them assholes who don't get that the government is strangling itself financially by trying to lower taxes.

[newspeak]

88. yes, there are 1%ers who get it

that actually have a conscience. Anyone remember when little boots went for his obscene tax cut, there was a group of monied people who fought against the tax cuts. There were some actors in the group and other wealthy on the telly fighting against the tax cut.

[thesquanderer]

91. Is she single? (nt)

[bertman]

94. REC. nt

[Uncle Joe]

96. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, TalkingDog.:thumbsup:

[Wind Dancer]

106. Love it!

K&R

[Rex]

107. And will Foxnews interview her and ask why she is in the crowd.

Of course not...they run like fucking cowards at the sight of facts! Run Heraldo, run!