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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 09:45 AM
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What do you know about C.S. Lewis? I saw this last nite:
http://theater.nytimes.com/2010/07/23/theater/reviews/23freud.html

Maybe I really mean "What do you *make* of CS Lewis?"

Freud's Last Session. 2-man show. Basically 90 minutes of Lewis vs. Freud in Freud's London study toward the very end of Freud's life, 1939.

Less political than philosophical, psychological, theological.

But everything's political in the final analysis... if you'll excuse the expression.

Brilliant production.

I think they're taking it on the road soon.

So..... you were about to tell me about CS Lewis.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 09:53 AM
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1. In the US,
assuming cinema goers actually bother to read film credits , he's most likely to be known as the author of The Chronicles Of Narnia.
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toddaa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 09:59 AM
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2. Not in evangelical circles
Edited on Sun Jan-16-11 09:59 AM by toddaa
He's most famous for his theological writings. He's the source of the bogus "Lord, Liar, Lunatic" trilemma.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 10:07 AM
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4. Religiously sort of... "peripatetic"?
I think that means something like "all over the map."

The wiki readout has him as leaving Christianity for "atheism" at 15 and then coming back to Christianity at age 33 or so.... with a big flourish. But during his "atheism" period he dabbled in witchcraft.... as whatsername might have put it.... and the occult.

Is that "atheism"?
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toddaa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 10:17 AM
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6. Mere Christianity documents his conversion from "atheism" to Christianity
It's quite amusing to think that Christians consider it so highly as a defense of their beliefs. If you read it, you quickly come to the conclusion that he was never really an atheist and he never took a class in rudimentary logic. His "atheism" amounts to little more than rebellious youth.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 10:27 AM
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9. Pretty much my supposition.
And I thank you for sparing me having to read "Mere Christianity" to get there.

>>>>His "atheism" amounts to little more than rebellious youth.>>>>>>>


Re. logic: Much of the play revolves around faith vs. reason.... Freud hammering away at Lewis' irrationality and Lewis coming back at him with "the limits of reason" argument.

On the whole, the play... as I saw it.... is sympathetic to Lewis, however.






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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 12:05 PM
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16. Yes, he was born in Ireland not Scotland.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 10:21 AM
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8. well, the chronicles of narnia have their share of theology
and evangelicals tend to love the series. (Not all evangelicals, of course, but overall--Christian groups were a key part of the promotion of the film version, for instance ...)
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 10:17 AM
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7. Exactly. One of many hats he wore.
Writer of children's books, epigramist, aphorist, religious apologist.... other stuff too.

Starting with Narnia.... he goes to a place of inaccessibility for me. My mind does not work the way his does.

But other things he says... while wearing the other hats.... interest me.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 10:04 AM
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3. I hope they make it into a film.
That would be so great.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 10:11 AM
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5. A tough one to get on the big screen.
Not impossible but tough. Someone in the q and a , post-performance, compared it to the (imo) lethal My Dinner with Andre.

I'd rather they didn't try ... if that's going to be the result.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 10:27 AM
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10. watch Shadowlands
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108101/

Great film about CS Lewis (Anthony Hopkins) and Joy Gresham (Debra Winger). They have a love affair with Joy becoming terminally unwell. It gives some insight into Lewis.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 10:34 AM
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13. I saw it years and years ago.
It... as i recall .... is *great*. ( I can't get it from netflix; apparently they don't have it.)

That actually initially sparked my curiosity re. Lewis.

In the post play q and a, someone asked the "Lewis" actor if he'd seen Shadowlands. He said he deliberately did NOT. because 1. He didn't want to have Hopkins in his head. and 2. He was playing Lewis at 42 not at 62. For the same reason he read everything that Lewis had written up til 1939, but nothing written thereafter.

i .e. He wanted to portray faithfully the *1939* Lewis.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 10:30 AM
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11. The talibornagains adore him.
I've never been a big fan. His books never really appealed to me. I'm more of a Roald Dahl fan.
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littlewolf Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 10:34 AM
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12. I liked the screwtape letters ...
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 11:49 AM
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15. So did I! That's what came to mind. My kids loved Kion, Witch and
Wardrobe (is that right?) and others in series.

It has been years since I read screwtape letters. Decades in fact...
that was a demon writing to his nephew Wormwood(?) advising him on attempts to "win" a human to Satan/hell? I don't even recall why I liked it so well but I feel amusement in my memory.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 10:39 AM
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14. Lewis died the same day as JFK: 11/22/1963
Edited on Sun Jan-16-11 10:39 AM by DemoTex
As did Aldous Huxley

FWIW
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 12:21 PM
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17. He was a close friend of Tolkien--both taught at Oxford--
Edited on Sun Jan-16-11 12:22 PM by Mrs. Overall
and Tolkien was highly critical of Lewis' use of Christian allegory in his writings. Tolkien thought that Lewis' use of Christianity was too obvious and over the top. They would often critique each other's work, but I don't remember what Lewis thought of Tolkien's fiction.
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