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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 09:45 AM
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McGovernment by the 1%
Last night on MSNBC, Rachel Maddow made a brief comment about parts of Ron Suskind's new book, which suggests that President Obama's efforts to break-up Citigroup were derailed by others within his administration. A number of people who were interviewed for the book have since accused Suskind of misquoting them, or taking quotes out of context. This reaction is, in a real sense, similar to the Bush administration reaction to Suskind's 2004 “The Price of Loyalty,” which detailed former Secretary of the Treasury Paul O'Neill's insights on the failures of Bush & Co. on domestic and international issues.

“Confidence Men: Wall Street, Washington, and the Education of a President” documents that, among others, Tim Geithner and Larry Summers were insubordinate to President Barack Obama. They did their best to protect their friends on Wall Street, at the expense of the orders of the President of the United States. It is important, in my opinion, to recognize that this did not take place in a vacuum.

In his 2010 book “Obama's Wars,” Bob Woodward documents that President Obama's instructions in regard to the war in Afghanistan were ignored by high-ranking military aides. The extent to which those who were supposed to be serving the President had become public in a June article in “Rolling Stone” magazine, which included an interview with General Stanley McChrystal.

Why is this important? To begin with, there is a general belief in the United States that a President is the most powerful person in the country. In theory, the President is in the driver's seat, when it comes to making the executive policies for our nation. Such blatant insubordination shows a President that his powers are actually limited, and his ability to create executive policies is handcuffed by an array of unelected people around him. This is obviously an important reality for citizens to understand, as well. Indeed, the extent of the powers of those surrounding a President goes well beyond what the public learns through books or magazines articles that merely expose the tip of that iceberg known as the “shadow (or invisible) government.”

The US Constitution provides for the chief executive to be held in check by the balance of powers that includes the Congress and Supreme Court. In theory, the Congress is supposed to have oversight of the military, which includes the power to declare war. It would be impossible for any rational person to believe that the Congress has exercised any wholesome control over the military – or, for that matter, the federal intelligence agencies – for the past five decades.

Likewise, the US Supreme Court is tasked with deciding Constitutional Law: the Court is supposed to, among other things, protect the individual rights outlined by the Bill of Rights. Yet the recent Supreme Court decisions have provided corporations with unconstitutional “rights.” Those corporations are, of course, part of the “shadow government.” One need look no further than Senator Robert Byrd's book “Losing America,” which documents VP Dick Cheney's suspension of Constitutional authority on 9-11-2001, by placing the “shadow government” – made up of members of the executive branch and corporate “leaders,” and denying Congress and the Supreme Court their powers – in charge of ruling the nation.

Older forum members know that these dynamics have been the source of great tensions before. There was a planned coup against FDR. Truman had a showdown with General MacArthur. Eisenhower warned against the undue influence of the military-industrial complex. JFK had the Bay of Pigs. LBJ illustrated the differences in nature between a bully and an alpha male, when he broke under the pressures of “the Generals” on Vietnam. Nixon was removed not by liberal Democrats, but by the efforts of right-wing intelligence operatives. And President Carter was the victim of an “October Surprise.”

In his 1960s “The Leadership of President Kennedy,” Major General Thomas Lane wrote: “The general thrust of the Kennedy military policy was to assert a political domination of the military leadership which was hostile to the traditions and practices of American government. …. John Kennedy was telling the Joint Chiefs that they must accept his judgment of military matters. ...The Presidential dictum was of course contrary to law and should have been disregarded by the Joint Chiefs of Staff … If the military leader is then willing to submit the professional integrity, morale and effectiveness of his service or services to the adverse judgments of inexperienced politicians, he is not fit to hold office.” Clearly Lane and McChrystal shared a common disease.

My opinions of Barack Obama have not been a source of wide-spread agreement on this forum. When I endorsed Senator Obama in the Democratic Primaries in early 2008, it marked a parting of ways with some old forum friends. Others lobbied to have me banned from this site. Likewise, when I have expressed some strong disagreements with some of President Obama's policies, others here have found it offensive. Such is the nature of internet political discussion sites, I suppose.

To be fair, time and again I have said that both the Democratic Party and the Democratic Left share in the blame for the recent failures. The election of 2008 involved a great force, something much larger than any single politician. But even before Obama took the oath of office, too many people began to sit back, as if the job was done. That created a vacuum, which allowed some of those in the shadow government to create and capitalize on the “Tea Party.” The right-wing hatred filled the void. The republican puppets – with the assistance of “democrats” known as “blue (lap) dogs,” fought any and every position that President Obama and the few decent Senators and Representatives took.

Time and again, I have also advocated here for resurrecting Martin Luther King, Jr.'s plan for a “Poor Peoples Campaign,” to occupy Washington, DC. A tiny minority of forum members here read my essays calling for such a movement. Those who were in general agreement suggested that the time would come. They were, of course, correct. The “Occupy Wall Street” movement is an organic expression of what King had called for in 1968.

At the unveiling of the King monument, Martin's daughter noted that he would have supported OWS. A few days later, a republican congressman from Florida said that King would have opposed OWS, and attempted to smear the protestors by calling the Marxists and communists – the exact same names his ilk called King in his day.

Decide for yourself: in his April 4, 1967 speech “A Time to Break Silence” (aka “Beyond Vietnam”), King said that “we as a nation must undergo a radical revolution of values. We must rapidly begin the shift from a 'thing-oriented' society to a 'person-oriented' society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered.” Sounds like OWS to me.

Critics of OWS also say that protests have never accomplished anything meaningful. I suspect that a review of King's Civil Rights protests shows otherwise. Of course, King and other leaders recognized the importance of voting. But voting does not eliminate the need to protest government and/or business policies in America. Never did, never will. Indeed, that is exactly why the Founding Fathers included Amendment 1 in the Bill of Rights. There can be no democracy without it.

In the 1970s, the American public learned that, after King's 1967 speech quoted above, military intelligence began surveilling King. This was, of course, a gross violation of federal law. It is well-documented, for example, that military intelligence kept an outpost less than a block away from King's motel room in Memphis in April of 1968.

Public protests are a powerful thing, which are a cause of concern for those who serve the 1%.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 09:57 AM
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1. First to rec!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 01:04 PM
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5. Thank you!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 10:04 AM
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2. Thank you, H20 Man!
The history of political economics:

Money to gain Power. Power to protect Money. Money to gain Power. Power to protect Money. Money to gain Power. Power to protect Money. Money to gain Power. Power to protect Money. Money to gain Power. Power to protect Money. Money to gain Power. Power to protect Money. Money to gain Power. Power to protect Money. Money to gain Power. Power to protect Money. Money to gain Power. Power to protect Money. Money to gain Power. Power to protect Money. Money to gain Power. Power to protect Money. Money to gain Power. Power to protect Money. Money to gain Power. Power to protect Money. Money to gain Power. Power to protect Money. Money to gain Power. Power to protect Money. Money to gain Power. Power to protect Money. Until 1-percent have got 99-percent.

Which is where we are at today. Thanks to you and the efforts of people who give a damn, though, we may still enjoy a measure of Democracy.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 01:07 PM
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6. Right.
Military intelligence wasn't spying on King in Memphis because there was a concern that, at some later date, Newt Gingrich may be forced to empty his bladder in a public restroom, at a urinal next to Herman Cain. It was the 1% that had tasked them, because they were afraid that Martin had identified their obscene wealth as the cause of so much suffering in the US.

We are seeing a different type of power with OWS ....one that money can neither pay for, nor buy.
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daleanime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 10:27 AM
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3. Damn it, no matter how hard I try....
my reading list just keeps getting longer.:evilgrin:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 01:09 PM
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7. Ha!
Thanks -- I would like to think that my posts here encourage others to read books that they might not otherwise have.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 10:50 AM
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4. when I reflect on this movement and its consequence on the presidency I think of you
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 10:52 AM by bigtree
I'm almost entirely inclined to see the protests as a remarkably positive step in the right direction. The timing couldn't be better. Not only are the protestors able to influence the coming presidential election, but they also have a chance to influence the potential for legislative progress, and, more importantly, legislative discipline in holding onto progressive principles and demanding votes along those principled lines.

Yet, I also have a nagging part of me which worries about the effect of the protests on the prospects for the re-election of our incumbent Democrat and the possibility that votes will be lost in disillusionment with the President and party.

I'm reminded by your assertion during one of our discussions(I recall), that it isn't the responsibility of the disaffected voters to carry the nominee to the finish line. As much as this anguishes me and causes me palpitation, I have to admit that, in the end, its the candidate who has to do the convincing. If he doesn't, and folks sit on their hands allowing republicans to make gains, its the fault of the politicians, first and foremost. That's a difficult understanding to carry with us on the way down, but its one of the immutable truths about politics and elections. It's ultimately up to the candidate to appeal.

I'm hoping, beyond hope, that our Democratic leaders get this.

K&R . . .
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 01:14 PM
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8. I'm thinking that
President Obama and some of the higher quality of Democratic leaders in the House and Senate may find that OWS provides them the opportunity to take more progressive steps. While I do keep in mind the "good cop/bad cop" dynamic in politics -- or, as Malcolm said, the fox and the wolf -- I do think that there is a big part of President Barack Obama that remains a "community organizer" .... and hence must look towards OWS with appreciation.

Strange times we live in, eh?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 07:47 PM
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14. I hope your thoughts about this work out.
A kick...but, I'm of a darker thought. I still prefer your lighter, hopeful scenario.

I don't see our President as a victim. I've tried to ...and come to a different conclusion ...at this point.

K&R.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 02:40 PM
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9. kick
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 02:41 PM
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10. yep.....
k-r
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:37 PM
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15. Thanks!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 02:43 PM
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11. Excellent post Wateman
As usual. :D
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:37 PM
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16. Much appreciated.
Thanks!
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 02:49 PM
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12. k/r
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 07:11 PM
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13. K&R
:thumbsup:

RECALL SCOTT WALKER!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:59 PM
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17. Night time kick for Waterman
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