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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 07:41 PM
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Corporate Welfare Turns BofA into a Fat, Lazy, Extorting Corporate Welfare Queen
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 08:18 PM by McCamy Taylor
I am gonna make this real easy.

In 2008, Bank of America got $25 billion of our money. By early 2009, they were back in line asking for another handout.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/15/business/15bank.html

“It feels like a black hole.”


By 2010, it was clear even to the federal government that welfare for the banks had backfired.

A quarterly report to Congress on the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP, made available in draft form late on Saturday, said financial firms seen as too big to fail before 2008 have only grown larger as they feasted on subsidies from the bailout program.

"To the extent that institutions were previously incentivized to take reckless risks through a 'heads I win, tails the government will bail me out' mentality, the market is more convinced than ever that the government will step in as necessary to save systemically significant institutions," the report from the Office of the Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program, said.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/01/31/us-usa-economy-bailout-idUSTRE60U09L20100131

In other words, when you pay a bank to be a lazy, greedy, lying corporate welfare queen, it will continue to be a lazy, greedy, lying corporate welfare queen. Because hey! It's easier than working.

The article above points out that in exchange for the money, banks were supposed to free up credit to small businesses to encourage new jobs and they were supposed to rewrite mortgages to prevent foreclosure. In other words, they were supposed to be doing work-for-welfare. No one gets a free ride anymore, not even corporate welfare queens. However, once the banks were dining on steak at taxpayers expense, they lost the will to do anything---except beg for more money.

The report noted, for example, that while TARP was supposed to encourage banks to increase financing for U.S. businesses and consumers, lending is actually decreasing on a month-by-month basis…and only a small fraction of troubled mortgages have been permanently modified to lower borrowers' monthly payments.]


Lazy, lazy, lazy. And mean! There was money sitting around, just waiting to be used to help out people facing foreclosure, but the banks sent it back to Washington, unused, presumably because they thought it was funny as hell to throw people out into the streets. Unfortunately, being lazy and mean is no way to make money. B of A is in trouble again, for stealing little old ladies pensions. California has indicated that it will not accept the pennies on the dollar that the Obama administration wants banksters to pay for this crime of the century. California wants all its money back. And that will cost B of A billions. Many billions.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/attorneys-general-settlement-the-next-big-bank-bailout-20111005

None of us should be surprised that Bank of America---which already received two hefty welfare checks---now wants a third. But BofA knows that if it strolls up to Congress and says "Gimme!" Congress will say "Get lost! I'm campaigning for re-election." So, what does BofA do? It conspires with the fed to force America to give it a handout. Here is how:

The fed told BofA it can put all its debt into its bank, which is insured by the FDIC. That way, if California gets a $20 billion judgment and France gets a $10 billion judgment and your dad's credit union wins a $30 billion judgment, BofA will not have to pay a cent. Instead, it can take the money out of its bank----the one where your savings are kept. And, when it runs out of your savings it can go to the FDIC and demand a trillion dollars.

Now, this is just fundamentally wrong . The FDIC was created to reward people who put their money in a bank, where their neighbors can use it for loans etc. until we need to withdraw it years later. It was not created to protect folks who like to engage in risky investments. Key word here is "risky" as in "at your own risk, not the risk of the FDIC."

Who knows what was going through the minds of the folks at the Fed when they agreed to this scheme. I suspect that the guys at the FDIC's response must have gone something like “Holy crap! WTF! We only have $3.9 billion. Where the hell are we gonna find the other $997 billion.” Or something to that effect.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/10/20/bloomberg_articlesLTBZHS1A1I4J.DTL


But, of course, the FDIC will never be called upon to pay the trillion dollars. The FDIC doesn't have a trillion dollars . With the U.S. government now on the line for a trillion dollars in FDIC payments, thanks to Bernake and the Fed, Bank of America will be able to demand many more billions to keep its investment division afloat. And, if Congress says “Fuck off! You already had two bailouts” BofA can say “Ok, we are broke. Pay us a trillion.”

Wow. BofA isn’t just a welfare queen. BofA is now in the extortion racket. It is riding high in its gold plated Cadillac, sipping champagne and giving the finger to Occupy Wall Street and the American people.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 07:45 PM
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1. BUt but but I read here that Timmy G was no friend of Wall Street. It must be true because Some
People Believe it.
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banned from Kos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 07:55 PM
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4. Geithner is in Treasury - not the Fed.
and Bank of America paid the $45 billion back plus $4.6 billion in interest.

http://projects.propublica.org/bailout/entities/27-bank-of-america

There are plenty of reasons to hate BofA but owing TARP money is not one of them.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:18 PM
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9. Lost track of all of the handouts, I guess.
Bank of America has been on a losing streak for years. Any revenues immediately get sucked out to pay executive compensation. They could never possibly pay back the American tax payer, let alone provide interest.

You must know some special math that only bank shills can comprehend. To the rest of us it looks like Geithner has been running a Backdoor Zombie Ponzi Scheme.
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banned from Kos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:27 PM
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11. ProPublica is the definitive public watchdog on TARP
Hanging around at NC does not arm you with facts.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:33 PM
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12. You still can't seem to explain..
how a company that loses tens of billions a year, but pays out billions in compensation, has billions in deferred taxes from operating losses, creates nothing of value and produces nothing of worth can ever hope to pay back the trillions in taxpayer support it's been gifted.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 12:22 PM
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25. and it will never be explained...those that defend this bullshit
giveaway, have their collective heads up their collective asses.
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 04:49 PM
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28. If I understand this correctly
there are two scenarios that might answer your question that go something like this: One scheme is that the Treasury lends a bank TARP money at 5% interest then lends them money from another fund at 1% interest which the bank uses to pay back the 5% money. Another is the Treasury lends the bank money at 1% interest which it uses to purchase Treasury Bonds at 5%. In both cases the intent is the recapitalization of the banks using public money.
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Dont call me Shirley Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 12:37 PM
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26. No wonder you've been banned from Kos.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 11:11 PM
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18. Bank of America overextended itself doing leveraged buyouts.
I specifically remember two companies that Bank of America bought: Security Pacific and MBNA. There was also, of course, Countrywide.

BofA did not understand its limits. And now all of us pay. And the number of banks decreases.
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 07:50 PM
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2. I am currently taking action to move my money out of BofA. K&R
The only way to stop this is for all account holders to move their money out of BofA, (and Chase, and all bloated, zombie corporate whore banks) If BofA has no deposits, then the FDIC has no liability.

BofA Go Fuck Your Self.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 07:55 PM
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3. Unrec for promoting a despicable stereotype of poor people on assistance. You could have
used other imagery than the one promoted by Ronald Reagan.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 07:58 PM
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5. It's called "sarcasm". As in a taunt to those who believe in Welfare Queens, but think corporate
welfare is just fine.
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dogknob Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 09:52 PM
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17. Some people need a drippy emoticon to explain sarcasm to them n/t
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:01 PM
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6. ok, so I look up executive compensation for B of A executives
and needless to say, it was excessive, and here is one of the "lower" paid exec's---


"Joseph Price, head of the consumer banking, had his compensation reduced to $917,027 in 2010 from $6.1 million the year earlier by SEC measurements. He also was awarded $4.8 million in performance-linked awards."

Sorry, but the minute they take any public money, all "awards" and "bonuses" should be eliminated. He was awarded "performance-linked" awards, for what, criminality? And while I think the salary should be reduced to min wage, or put to bid for recent business school graduates, I would be willing to agree with the median average for the metropolitan area headquarters is located.

I just cannot believe that the executive industry compensates failure and what an extremely incestuous crew it is.


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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:04 PM
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7. As long as taxpayers compensate failure, the banks will keep failing.
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 08:21 PM by McCamy Taylor
Because a bank has no self respect. A bank has no work ethic. A bank is not an individual who wants to accomplish something in life. A bank exists to make money, and it will make the most money it can in the easiest, least risky way possible. And right now, that way is the corporate welfare way.

Oh, and it's probably hush money. The minute one of these fat cats finds that he has been barred from the public tit, he will turn whistle blower in order to make money that way. So, the banks have to keep paying off their own executives to keep them quiet.
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:13 PM
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8. Make these lazy freeloaders pee into a cup.
"If you give these people a bailout, they'll just go out and buy more cracks and reefers."
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:18 PM
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10. More likely human growth hormone and cocaine, but yeah.
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nilram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 06:07 PM
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27. hm, I was thinking Rogane and hookers, but maybe that's for the bank regulators
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LadyInAZ Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:36 PM
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13. stimulus package should ...
have been done more on a equal scale... the working class got a small portion of that money... unemployment was turned off for millions of americans... that money 2nd hand out should have gone to help people who lost jobs cause of this recession.... the common works(low/middle) had nothing to do with extremely bad business disciions... but we have surfered... i guess next time government will think twice when they help elite class... more thought will be put into it...
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Alameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:51 PM
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14. Did you know they distribute the Unemployment money?
not sure if it's the whole country, but in CA those who are lucky enough to be getting unemployment now, are distributed the funds through a BOA debit card. I think they also get the disability funds to distribute too. I don't understand WHY should be doing this? Getting checks was fine. Now you have to go through hoops to get the money from BOA. I could go on....but it's upsetting....grrrr!
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w0nderer Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 06:02 AM
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21. now that's interesting
in the follow up of BofA adding a $5 usage charge to their debit cards

so..unemployment/disability gets handed through a BofA Debit card, and if you use it for anything past ATM transactions
it's a monthly $5 fee (once that fee goes into effect)

guess the banks are following the old saying, 'it's better to rob a blind paraplegic than a young man, less chance of a fight'

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w0nderer Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 09:26 PM
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15. k&r n/t
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 09:47 PM
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16. Thanks for speaking frankly about the Pampered Behemoth Brat.
With all the disdain the 1% heaped on the possible 5% fraud rate that mandated cutting welfare for the poor-- I remember that-- pushing Clinton Gore to cut welfare because fraud could be as high as 5%-- using Papa Reagan's "welfare queen" beggin in the day and driving off in a Cadillac at night as an ugly and very easy stereotype.

I remember those mean discussions on the media. Condemning welfare fraud welfare fraud welfare fraud-- Yikes! Maybe as high as 10! -- and I kept thinking at the time-- how about the NINETY percent that really need it for a while? What about the 95% that need help? But yet another Democrat was pushed into proving he wasn't a hippie by cutting Democratic compassion legislation.

And here we are with the Pampered Brat Behemoth begging for one more bailout. Shifting their gambling debt onto their mom & pop depositors. Moving derivative debt onto us, John Q Public and family.

But that's how it has been here in the USA for a while now. You must steal big to get away with it. 5% and you get smashed down. 100% fraud and you get a second bailout and now, maybe a third.

Life here has become phenomenally absurd.
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Andrew_Writer Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 11:20 PM
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19. yes
Good points.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 02:07 AM
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20. BofA KEEPS getting away with murder.
:mad: :mad: :mad:



K&R
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 06:08 AM
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22. Criminal Intent.... Dum Dum....
They should prosecute the bastards and pierce the corporate shield...
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 07:45 AM
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23. The banking system needs to be nationalized. nt
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 11:22 AM
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24. Corporate Welfare Queen -- just like every other big corporation in the world then
We've allowed the special interests to turn the world upside down.

If Corporations are people then why, oh why, are the GOP not trying to END WELFARE FOR THE CORPORATIONS, just as they fought for decades to end welfare for humans???
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