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Fri Oct-21-11 08:00 AM
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The teabaggers are all wrong about 2 of the founding fathers if not all of them. |
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I am currently reading "Six Frigates" by Ian W. Toll. It is the story of the founding of the U.S. Navy. Toll has a good deal to say about Thomas Jefferson and James Madison. Here is some of it.
"They were dedicated members of the international "republic of letters," and passionately devoted to the study of science, philosophy, history, and the arts. They stood for reason, empiricism, free speech and a free press; for scientific inquiry, self-governance, individual rights, ans a secular state.
Madison was one of the recognized leaders of the "nationalist" movement, which championed a more muscular constitution to strengthen Congress's powers of legislation and taxation."
Now they sure were not the founding fathers the teabaggers describe.
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Fri Oct-21-11 08:13 AM
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1. Teabaggers relate to a fantasy of our Founding Fathers. |
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They are completely uneducated, having no idea who the real FF were and what their perspectives were. Teabaggers enjoy every minute of their skewed reality and have no desire/motivation to be on a learning curve. Thus if one were to calmly sit them down and present them with the facts they would resist and rationalize all information given to them to suit their needs/reference framework.
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Fri Oct-21-11 08:29 AM
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2. Be careful, if you are going to start listing all the things tea baggers are wrong about, you |
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won't have much time for anything else. ;)
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Fri Oct-21-11 08:36 AM
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3. Hey, John Wayne was a founding father, and he wasn't no fact-pamby! Libruls can't deal with facts. |
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Fri Oct-21-11 08:43 AM
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4. And the fundamentalists are wrong about Jesus. |
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It's fine pointing out the inconsistencies here. But I'd be cautious about pointing them out in person to anyone.
People are emotional, not logical. They'll just tune you out.
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Fri Oct-21-11 10:37 AM
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5. as I've said before - the teabaggers were the kids |
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in your high school American history classe who did not pay attention and got D's.
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Fri Oct-21-11 10:39 AM
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6. I liked the HBO miniseries on John Adams |
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I thought it showed the founding fathers as real, flawed, human beings. They weren't all friends. They didn't all agree. They made mistakes. They weren't perfect.
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