Facebook Building Shadow ProfilesOf Non-Members, Experts Allege | Fox News

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Facebook categorically denies the allegation, but experts tell FoxNews.com that it could well be true.

“There can be little doubt that Facebook collects from its current users information about individuals who are not currently Facebook users, and collects from its current users information about other Facebook users,” said Kelly Kubasta, who heads the Dallas law firm Klemchuk Kubasta’s social media division.

Ciara O'Sullivan, a spokeswoman for Ireland's Office of the Data Protection Commissioner, told FoxNews.com that its audit of Facebook Ireland's privacy policies was part of a "statutory investigation" that the office anticipates will lead to immediate changes.

"The Office of the Data Protection Commissioner will be commencing a comprehensive audit of Facebook Ireland before the end of the month," O’Sullivan said.



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The Office of the Data Protection

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[Kennah]

1. Umm, yeah, it happened to me

Before I was on FB, I was tagged in family pictures that other family members posted. When I finally got on FB, boom, there I am online. WTF!? Then I realized I'd been tagged.

[TwilightGardener]

2. Creepy.

[tridim]

3. The "Democratic Underground" FB group is helping with this

They are feeding good DU usernames into FB's database at an alarming rate.

I could only take it for 48 hours, it's a cesspool of hate and childishness. Enter at your own risk.

BTW Skinner, you might want to check it out. They are using the DU name and logo and bashing your site and current members.

[glinda]

4. That is worthy of it's own posting IMHO.

[Fla Dem]

12. I agree. I refuse to join the FB madness and give them any information.

If DU is providing member information to Facebook, Skinner should announce that and give members the opportunity to opt out.

[LaurenG]

5. I realize this is your opionion.

And there may well be some cesspool type activity but no more than goes on here. Are you reporting to Skinner because you aren't comfy in the facebook group? Why not grow-up and like any adult take what you like and leave the rest? Per the usual anytime a new group springs up people feel scared and start freaking out. :eyes:

[tridim]

6. I left the group after 48 hours because it was unbearably awful.

It is OET 2.0.

I think Skinner might be interested in his IP being stolen.

[LaurenG]

7. His IP?

Do you mean the name or do you mean the internet provider. I'm not a member of OET so I can't speak to that but really there are just a bunch of people having fun. The best part about it is that they can say what they will to each other and the rest of us doen't have to alert or try to involve ourselves at all. They just get to work it out by themselves.

[tridim]

8. Intellectual Property

Look it up.

[LaurenG]

9. That makes more sense than internet provider.

I imagine that will be changed soon just so no one will inadvertantly step on toes.

[tridim]

10. And BTW fake DU/OET 2.0, Hi!

:hi:

[Shining Jack]

11. Sounds familiar.

Reminds me of Righthaven LLC v. Democratic Underground, LLC. Of course you're not suggesting that Skinner would sink down to their level, aren't you?

[tridim]

13. Stealing IP is against the law.

It's why I can't start a FB group called "Coca Cola".

Your analogy is just a bit off.

[RetroLounge]

14. ...

"(It should be noted that this is a support group for DU started by happy DU patriots, and not by the DU admins)"

:rofl:

RL

[Shining Jack]

15. I stopped counting the Coca Cola Pages after reaching 50.

BTW, I don't know if your handle is a "good DU username" but Tridim is been repeated ad infinitum over there, you should hire a lawyer ASAP. :rofl:

[tridim]

16. Of course all of the official Coca Cola FB pages are run by Coca Cola

Just a minor legal detail. :eyes:

DERP

[Shining Jack]

19. Not really.

According to PageData, the folks at Coca-Cola seem to have accomplished something pretty amazing on Facebook – the Coca-Cola fan page is the 2nd most popular Page on all of Facebook with over 3.3 million fans, second only to Barack Obama.

The only catch? The page wasn’t created by Coke, but by two Coke fans in Los Angeles, Dusty Sorg and Michael Jedrzejewski. In a recent AdAge story, the two tell of how they were recently contacted by Coca-Cola and asked to partner with Coke to manage the Page in a move that showed a graceful approach to social media by the company.

http://www.insidefacebook.com/2009/03/18/how-do-you-treat-a-fan-who-owns-your-facebook-page/

You can waste your time and quote the rest of the article but I have a feeling that the graceful approach to social media is not your style. BTW which Democratic Underground Fan page are you talking about? There are 5 of them that I'm aware of, the second most popular one have 872 members and growing. See posts 14 and 17 for more information as why it would be a waste of time if your still not getting a clue.

[jobycom]

17. That's an old group of DU supporters and members, not what you say it is.

I've been a member of that group for years, and it's had very little activity until for some reason in the last week or two people started posting there. It was started as a Facebook group for DU fans. As the group description says, "(It should be noted that this is a support group for DU started by happy DU patriots, and not by the DU admins)." There are a lot of threads right now, and some are from unhappy former members, but to call the whole thing a "Cesspool of hate and childishness" is dickish beyond words, considering there are a lot of current DUers over there, too.

I don't know if Facebook allowing DU's logo to be used violates any rules--have fun working that one out, since they do it to a lot of people--but despite some of the recent flurry of activity, it's not an anti-DU group. A lot of members over there are still happy DUers with good reputations.

As for the logo issue, I don't think a trademark is violated if it is identified. Trademark laws mean you can't use a trademark without identifying where it's from, and there's no attempt at that. This isn't a separate group trying to identify itself as Democratic Underground, this is a fan club of Democratic Underground using DU's name and logo to identify itself as such, the way a BMW Club would use the BMW logo. If that violates any laws anywhere, most of the clubs in this country do so, too. But, I'm not a lawyer, and don't care that much about it anyway, so if I'm wrong about that, then I am.

Oh yeah, and back when I joined FB there were at least three groups of Democratic Underground members over there. None of them had much activity, and the others may have been archived by now.

[tridim]

18. The IP issue is between Skinner and Facebook.

It's up to Skinner if he wants to deal with it.

My opinion of what I witnessed on that FB group during my short stay is my own and I'm sticking with it. It made me feel ill, so I left. Done and done.

I would have loved to stay, however the content of the group is not as advertised.

[Shining Jack]

21. There are other DU fan pages that you could tattletale about too.

But you don't seem like a very positive person so I doubt that you would be interested.

[tridim]

22. The page in question is a "group" not a fan page.

If you were wondering, yes I am a fan of DU. I care about its integrity.

[jobycom]

23. Short stay, but made your decision based on that short stay, and are sticking with it.

Got it. I prefer to spend a much longer time before deciding about someone, but that's just me.

However, by calling the whole group vile names, you are insulting a lot of very good, long-term, and respectable DUers. That means you have just maligned a lot more DUers than most people on that Facebook group ever have. You'll have to decide what that says about you in comparison to the group.

[tridim]

25. The group is archived. It didn't take long to see the pattern of anti-DUism..

And the lack of political discussion.

More recent posts include such gems as a dead Democratic donkey buried upside-down up to his ankles, with lots of "likes". Just lovely.

[CreekDog]

24. how do I tag Obama in that photo with the pie?

:banghead:

[FloridaJudy]

20. Well, duh...

Of course FaceBook collects data about its members. How do you think they make their money? By selling targeted ad space. This is not even new to the Internet. For decades magazines and newspapers have made the majority of their profits by selling advertising, not by subscriptions. If they could show that their readers somehow had more disposable income, or were more willing to spend money on certain things, they were more successful in recruiting businesses. I used to make part-time money in college by doing phone surveys for magazines.

The other thing it would behoove us to remember is never, ever to write anything on the Internet that it would distress you to see on the front page of the newspaper. The one your mother and your boss read. You may think it's a safe place, but stuff gets archived and screen-capped, even in a supposedly private venue like this.

Me? I figure I'm on a brazillion right wing and government lists as an untrustworthy character ever since I joined the SDS in my high school back in the early sixties, before they took to bombing buildings (the SDS, that is: my high school I'm not so sure of). And every time I sign another petition for Change.org, TrueMajority, or MoveOn, I'm sure I get another check mark next to my name.

Hi, Mom! And boss? You still suck!