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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 03:40 AM Original message |
Greeks threatened with power cuts if they fail to pay property tax |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 03:44 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yikes. |
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PoliticAverse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 03:48 AM Response to Original message |
2. Grece, tettering on the brink of being a failed state... n/t |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 03:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. The war in Athens, Greece |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 03:57 AM Response to Original message |
4. I don't think that's going to work out so well for them |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:04 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. The last paragraph |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
57. Good |
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Katashi_itto (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Thus will not end well for the Govt |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Fuck the Govt |
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PoliticAverse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:30 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Well uniting and working together is what government is suppose to be... |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:36 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. The people elected leaders to represent their interests ahead of the demands of.. |
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PoliticAverse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:38 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. I agree default should happen. Why should German taxpayers bail out banks ? n/t |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:46 AM Response to Reply #22 |
29. They are mostly German, French and American banks. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:40 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Perhaps "supposed to be", |
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PoliticAverse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:44 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I wish the Greek people luck solving their problems. Declare national bankruptcy... |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:49 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. It's not national issue |
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PoliticAverse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:58 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Greece's problems are their own making. If they had collected sufficient taxes... |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 05:07 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Your post is based in nonsense, not reality. |
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PoliticAverse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 05:21 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. We're not talking about tax/rates and revenues alone... |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 05:25 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. You said that the problem was insufficient taxation.. |
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PoliticAverse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 05:35 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. The debt wasn't just built up during the bad economic times... |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 05:09 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. What part of |
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PoliticAverse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 05:17 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. It's certainly stupid to think people will lend you money without limit... |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 05:21 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. The US has a sovereign currency. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 05:42 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Dream on |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 05:25 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Yes it is stupid |
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PoliticAverse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 05:32 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I agree. Debt based money is a bad system. I wish the Greek people luck in |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
58. If this works |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 03:57 AM Response to Original message |
5. Why dont Greek people pay their taxes?? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:10 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. It's an extra tax |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:19 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I thought it was a Greek tradition not to pay taxes that goes back for decades.. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:26 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Different issue |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:29 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. so you are ok with citizens not paying taxes?? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:31 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Greek tax revenues are basically unchanged over the last decade. |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. read this.. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:39 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. That doesn't have anything to do with the topic at hand. |
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PoliticAverse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:41 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. ANd they're still a lot less than government spending... which the government has borrowed.... |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:52 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Yes, it's a shame that they gave up currency sovereignty. |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:45 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. I think it does.. a drop in tax revenue certainly didnt help matters. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:48 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. There was no drop in revenue. |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:53 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. If everone paid their fair share in taxes wouldnt they have higher tax revenues? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 05:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. No. |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 06:19 AM Response to Reply #39 |
48. If they had paid their taxes during the past few decades then their debt would have been smaller.. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
59. And yet they are paying higher taxes now and the debt has only grown. |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 08:34 AM Response to Reply #31 |
54. Sorry, I'm looking at the red bars on your graph, and your claim that "there was no drop in revenue" |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. The move is clearly insignificant. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:47 AM Response to Reply #14 |
30. I'm not OK |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:59 AM Response to Reply #9 |
36. You're correct. |
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PoliticAverse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:21 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Why should they pay taxes when they could just charge everything up on the national credit card ? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:29 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Why should you pay taxes |
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PoliticAverse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:35 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. US credit card is about 62% of GDP, still behind Greece (about 116%) |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:30 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. What, exactly, are they charging on the "national credit card"? |
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PoliticAverse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Their budget deficit... n/t |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:40 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Be specific. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 06:58 AM Response to Original message |
49. PASOK is toast. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 07:07 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. It's usually the "good guys" |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 07:53 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. That's what ya get with 'social democrats'..... |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 07:23 AM Response to Original message |
51. The Greeks just hate paying taxes. |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 07:36 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. +1 |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #51 |
63. The same anecdotes could be told about wealthy Germans, Brits, Americans. |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
55. Why do people buy the propaganda |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Because they do evade their taxes. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. Interesting how it's pinned on the middle class and the tradesmen... |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. The only people that do are trolls. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
60. Welcome to WWIII. |
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