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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 11:22 AM Original message |
"By the time you read this, I will be gone" says 99er. !!! |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
1. I have strong mixed feelings about this letter. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
12. in what way? |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Depression is a terrible thing and it's hard to understand the pain someone else might be going |
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easttexaslefty (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #18 |
60. @ brickbat |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
16. Do you mean you're wondering if it's for real? nt |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 12:00 PM Original message |
Meh, "wondering" is too strong a word. |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
59. Oh dear! Strong feelings? Can't let that happen. |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. ? |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
2. Oh no ... |
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FarLeftFist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
3. ENORMOUSLY SAD and HEARTBREAKING :( I hope he reconsiders... |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
4. Not feelin it for the guy. I am feelin it for the diabetic wife & 5 babies. |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Lot of pain around there. But yeah. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
6. I'm guessing that he believes that the only way he can support his family |
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Ship of Fools (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. No question there. Line forms to the rear ... |
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The Wielding Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Can you buy suicide insurace? I've not heard of it. |
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DLnyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Some life insurance covers suicide, some doesn't |
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The Wielding Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Gee this is surprising. I just Googled to find more info. There were alot |
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DLnyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. See 15 below |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
36. Sadly, I don't find it the least bit surprising. (nt) |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 08:29 AM Response to Reply #11 |
50. Mine does after two years (it's been 6) so I'm good to go...volunteer or not. |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
53. The Life Insurance I had paid off on suicide, as long as it |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Suicide usually renders an insurane policy null and void. |
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DLnyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 11:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Not so, I think |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Erm, this guy left a suicide note. I think it undermines all the points |
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DLnyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. No, my reading of the article is suicide is covered. |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 08:40 AM Response to Reply #20 |
51. It's a specifc rider addressed within policies. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:31 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. I'm really sorry about your situation. |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
73. No need for sorry, but thank you. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. It's good to know that everything turned out well. |
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easttexaslefty (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #51 |
61. It's covered after a waiting period for obvious reasons. |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #61 |
75. He's not depressed. |
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easttexaslefty (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. That's an oxymoron. |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #77 |
105. That was factually the diagnosis of the psych professionals during his commitment.. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. Apparently there's a two year window. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 07:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
106. Not at all. I'm living proof. |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. That was my initial though...life insurance policy n/t |
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ChazII (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
39. Could they collect on the policy if |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 07:38 AM Response to Reply #6 |
49. Doesn't suicide void life insurance policies? |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
14. Failure to fight crazy far-right radicals has consequences |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
17. Selfish fuck. n/t |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. wow. n/t |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. That crossed my mind as well. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Let's try not to conflate selfish with desperate |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Agreed. This dude was a selfish fuck. n/t |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
37. Oh wow am I ever surprised to see this from you. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 07:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. It's comments like yours. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 07:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. actually it's not a bad comment |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #17 |
58. Yup. I agree... |
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easttexaslefty (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #17 |
64. "selfish fuck" |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
69. Suicide is not being selfish. |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #69 |
98. Pardon me. He was an Irrational selfish fuck. |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
22. Even if the note is not "real", it's real, because this sort of thing actually happens. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 12:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. I daresay, running for the exit |
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Alameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
28. "notify the authorities?" How do you think he got this way? |
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leftyohiolib (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
29. what a disgusting p.o.s. coward. a child with ep and a wife with |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. most aren't in right mind. he will regret it once he does it. i feel for |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Suicide is not about cowardice, nor is it rational. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. deleted |
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leftyohiolib (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:31 AM Response to Reply #34 |
54. the cowardice comes from him leaving his wife and family when they will need hom the most |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Still attributes a motive / emotional state that is unlikely to be present. |
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leftyohiolib (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #56 |
62. well we'll have to agree to disagree cause |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #62 |
91. Yes we will. |
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leftyohiolib (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. "who attributes suicide to cowardice" where did i say that? if |
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easttexaslefty (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #34 |
65. Yep |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Deleted message |
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leftyohiolib (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #45 |
57. read the letter twice saw nothing about having had bouts of depression |
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easttexaslefty (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #57 |
67. You don't need a crystal ball. |
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leftyohiolib (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. you dont need ctrystal balls or stats when it's right there in print..nt |
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easttexaslefty (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. You're hopeless |
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leftyohiolib (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #76 |
86. went through my posts and i couldnt find where i said it was rational |
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easttexaslefty (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. No, I believe you said," it was a pos cowardice" |
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leftyohiolib (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. what i said and it's still there was "what a pos coward" refering to him leaving his family |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
72. I know how you could feel that way, but this person was mentally ill. |
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leftyohiolib (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #72 |
82. chrisa, i dont hate this person, ihate what his is doing to his family. |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
102. Sorry honey. Sorry kids. |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
30. Dramatic license, IMO. |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
32. How do we know this is real? And if real, why publicize? |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Yep, this entire financial meltdown is the guy's fault.. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
41. I highly discourage this type of behavior |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 07:13 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. When people like him die.... |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
46. Something doesn't pass the smell test here. |
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Blasphemer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Neither am I.... Frank Capra and Philip Van Doren Stern did it a lot better |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
103. maybe we'll see this on RW blogs |
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Glimmer of Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-11 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
48. Depression is very dangerous when not treated. I hope he has second thoughts. |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
52. Can't he move to France and get medical care? |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
63. Assuming it is true... |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
66. If someone is truly in despair and can find no solutions |
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easttexaslefty (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #66 |
80. Skidmore. |
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renate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #66 |
83. I'm so sorry for your brother's pain |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #66 |
84. I'm glad your brother's sucide attempt was thwarted. Sorry he's in pain. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
70. Oh please. You'd have to be the most gullible person on earth to buy this. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. I took a suicide prevention class - the instructor emphasized - ALWAYS take a suicide threat serious |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. But without a name it's not a threat, |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
71. Recent experience with a suicide. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. How horrible. I don't question anyone else's motivation. |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #71 |
99. Why not? Suicide is murder. |
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MadrasT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
87. I am truly amazed... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. your argument is what always gets me when people argue this. it is totally ignoring ALL the reality |
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DiverDave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #87 |
97. Hit the nail on the head |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #87 |
101. It is selfishness, but not on the part of this poor gentleman. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
88. people say selfish. i dont agree. people say cruel. again, i dont agree |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. I just say fake. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. could be. a little secret |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #88 |
100. Suicide is murder and each case is different. Wouldn't you say? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. then maybe we ought to take that into account before making some of these statements |
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haele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
96. Sounds as if he feels he could better provide for the short term this way. |
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