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Tue Nov-01-11 10:45 AM
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| If free speech = unlimited money, does free speech =................... |
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unlimited right to assemble.
Discuss, lawyers and non lawyers alike.
Do local time, place, and manner laws trump the US Constitution? Discuss.
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| valerief
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Tue Nov-01-11 10:45 AM
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| 1. Only money has free speech. Bodies do not. Welcome to Fascist America. nt |
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Edited on Tue Nov-01-11 10:46 AM by valerief
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| Fumesucker
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Tue Nov-01-11 10:48 AM
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| 2. But if $="speech" then "free speech" means silence.. |
| Blue Meany
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Tue Nov-01-11 10:50 AM
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| 3. If free speech is a right, rather than a privilege; and $ = free speech |
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than everyone must be entitled to money as a right of citizenship.
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| patrice
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Tue Nov-01-11 11:07 AM
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| 6. +11111111111111111111111111 . . . ~ |
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Tue Nov-01-11 11:08 AM
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| 7. = FREE INTERNET and . . . |
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Tue Nov-01-11 10:55 AM
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| 4. free anything would not be tied to anything-else more than it is necessary to reliably establish |
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Edited on Tue Nov-01-11 11:09 AM by patrice
whatever its validity is, relevant to a given set of situational factors.
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Tue Nov-01-11 11:06 AM
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| 5. i.e. trying to impose absoluteness upon free ____________ is oppressive & that even includes |
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Edited on Tue Nov-01-11 11:11 AM by patrice
, under valid circumstances, absolute relativity.
There are no human absolutes and that statement is so true that not even it is an absolute, ergo . . .
Freedom does not oppress, so a free person is free of both the absolute and of the relative, free to be both, or either and/or neither.
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Tue Nov-01-11 11:26 AM
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| 8. Free speech is not free when it costs big money to attain and maintain. |
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Tue Nov-01-11 11:35 AM
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| 11. Good point, so isn't the oppo really saying, "(Amongst other things,) speech is money & since |
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speech (except for shouting-fire-in-a-crowded-darkened-theater, i.e. dangerous speech) is free, unlimited money is free speech" and, since, MONEY IS FREE for/to America's financial royalty, free speech = money? - or - free speech = free money?
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Tue Nov-01-11 11:36 AM
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| 12. P.S. I think there is a case to be made about Dangerous Speech re our economic system & Environmet |
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Edited on Tue Nov-01-11 11:39 AM by patrice
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Tue Nov-01-11 11:29 AM
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| 9. Free speech is a Tent in my opinion |
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also a tent is a corporation and a human being at the same time
Just ask the Supreme Corporate Court.
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Tue Nov-01-11 11:34 AM
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| 10. If unlimited money = free speech, then just how free is that speech? |
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Democracy in America is just an illusion.
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