Just great, after yesterday, I wake up to read this happened

[robdogbucky]

Occupy strike descends into chaos

Demian Bulwa, Matthai Kuruvila,Justin Berton, Chronicle Staff Writers

Thursday, November 3, 2011

(11-03) 06:19 PDT OAKLAND -- A long day of mostly peaceful protest on Wednesday in Oakland descended into chaos after midnight. Masked vandals shattered windows, set fires and plastered downtown businesses with graffiti before police moved in, dispersing crowds with tear gas and flash-bang grenades and making mass arrests.

The street clashes - which hospitalized three protesters and left several officers with minor injuries - happened near Occupy Oakland's tent city in a plaza outside City Hall, which had been the center of Wednesday's "general strike." That event peaked when thousands of people angry at economic inequality marched to the Port of Oakland, shutting it down.

Most of those people had gone home by 11 p.m. Wednesday, when dozens of protesters took over a vacant 2-story building at 16th Street and Broadway - two blocks from the encampment - that once housed the nonprofit Travelers Aid Society.

Hundreds of others looked on as protesters barricaded the block at both ends with wooden pallets, trash cans, tables and tires. They hung banners from the building's roof, spray painted its exterior and chanted, "Whose street, our street!" One group of protesters broke cement blocks into baseball-size rocks...


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/11/03/BANI1LQ2HO.DTL#ixzz1cebkne8e





Mercedes hits 2 Occupy Oakland protesters

Matthai Kuruvila, Demian Bulwa,Kevin Fagan, Chronicle Staff Writers

Thursday, November 3, 2011

(11-02) 23:05 PDT OAKLAND -- A car struck two Occupy Oakland protesters tonight as they marched with a crowd along Broadway, and an angry mob surrounded the car as emergency workers tended to the injured.

The driver, who was not identified, sat in his silver Mercedes-Benz sedan after the 7:30 p.m. incident while hundreds of people screamed at him through his closed windows.

BART police officers who were guarding nearby transit stations responded, questioned the driver and several witnesses, then let the driver leave the scene at 11th Street and Broadway in his car.

The two people who were hit, a man and a woman, suffered leg and ankle injuries that were not life-threatening, said BART Police Deputy Chief Daniel Hartwig. They were taken to Highland Hospital...


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/11/02/BA5G1LQ06S.DTL#ixzz1cecb5wwU





Fuck fuck fuck fuckety fuck fuck fuck

[nc4bo]

1. OMG so the rumors/reports are true that this driver was let go?

Is the SFGate/Chronical a reliable news source? If so then looks like we have some work to do.

BART are from the transportation system so why weren't the Oakland PD called in?

Who was this man that made him untouchable?

[SwampG8r]

7. there was an accident he stopped

the police came
info was collected
the two accident victims were taken with non life threatening injuries to a local hospital
for what reason would the police take him in?
he waited and complied completely with the laws regarding an accident involving injury
i can understand being angry that people got hurt but if this happened anywhere and the driver was not impaired the same thing would have happened
info would be exchanged ambulances would be called and no one would be arressted

[barbtries]

13. have you seen the video?

assault with a deadly weapon imo, and definitely calling for an arrest. but that may come later.

[doc03]

16. The reports I heard the protesters were banging on the hood

of the guy's car. I know if I was in shoes and was driving a Mercedes through a mob of people protesting the 1% I would be a little scared. It's stupid shit like that that will destroy the whole movement. I saw the report of Faux this morning and it looked like a scene from some of the riots in Europe. The OWS movement better clean up their ranks or they will be totally discredited.

[chowder66]

25. Please watch the video closely and notice....

http://www.ktvu.com/videos/news/raw-video-pedestrian-hit-by-car-in-downtown/vD4pp/

that the wheels don't really stop rolling and the peaceful protesters are basically in a "whoa, wait a minute" mode and the car actually rolls into the guys legs. That is why he banged on the hood..the car is rolling into him and then the driver purposely uses his car to push the protesters. You can see this much better when you use the large screen.

This driver should NOT have been let go. He needs to be arrested.

This was NO accident.

[metalbot]

10. Unless there is alcohol involved, people are rarely arrested for traffic accidents

I think people are reading too much into this. A car hits two pedestrians. The driver and witnesses are questioned. The police take the information on the driver and file a report. That's the way things generally work. It's up to a DA to decide if charges are merited, especially given that there are conflicting eye witness reports.

[deutsey]

2. I remember when I protested Bush's first inauguration

There were thousands of us in the streets of DC that day protesting, but what did I see on the TV news coverage later? One black-bloc type kid scuffling with DC police.

Similar things happened during the anti-war protests.

:evilfrown:

There has been some good coverage on KPFA this morning, though.

[Tippy]

3. This is not good.....I prayed they would be able to keep this peacful

I really believe that was the reason their numbers kept growing....Would like to know just who was responsible the OWS or outside agitators....

[valerief]

12. The troublemakers could be white shirt plants, too. nt

[2pooped2pop]

15. from the pics I saw

the people using graffiti and destroying a picket fence were part of a group dressed in black with masks. They wear masks even when no threat of chemical spray. From what I have witness from many years protesting and even talking to some of these black wearing masked people, they are Anarchist. They are always there, usually young, and cause usually minor trouble.

Someone suggested the group of young anarchist are being directed by agent provocateurs and I could see that easily happen. They could very very easily be turned onto petty destruction and running of amokness. (no it's not a real word)

They need to watch these guys in black, look at the marchers,you can see the group. They need to be brought on board the peace train. They need to be made to understand that their juvenile, petty crimes are hurting the entire movement. I would look to the older anarchist to be the agents. But watch them and bring them aboard the peaceful way.

Anarchist are always at protest and indeed are part of the 99%. They can't be stopped from marching or camping with us, but they should be approachable to nip the crap. Get them on board and all that is left to pull juvenile stunts is truly the provocateurs.

[valerief]

18. The white shirts are the bossmen police. They could have hired the troublemakers.

You know, to discredit the movement.

Sorry I wasn't clear what I meant when I first wrote white shirt.

[NeedleCast]

4. OccupyOakland Looks Out of Control

Not sure if the violent, anarchists protestors are plants or just assholes. Considering the media attention the Occupy protests are drawing, I'm leaning towards intentional plants...but yeah, this sort of shit destroys credibility.

[baldguy]

22. Sure it looks out of control - that's what the media & TPTB wants it to look like.

And by extension, every other OWS protest all over the country.

How much you want to bet that the instigators weren't occupiers?

[NeedleCast]

27. No Bet

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the instigators were not occupiers. It also wouldn't shock me much if some of them were. Considering that many of them seemed to be masked and didn't want their identities revealed, I'd guess the former though.

[dtexdem]

5. Who's behind the agents provocateurs?

One immediately suspects the authorities of rightwing corporate toadies -- but there are also some self-styled "lefty" nutcase groups who are happy to act as if they were agents of the rightwing.

[deutsey]

6. KPFA called it a "breakaway group" n/t

[Norrin Radd]

29. Video footage of police acting as provocateurs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV6DyQKe4cg

[wryter2000]

8. I just called security on three of these assholes behind my place of employment

We're about a mile from city hall. As we were pulling into our parking lot, my coworker noticed the three people in the street had firecrackers. I called security on their asses. They're fucking up the protest and fucking up my city, and they can stop!

:mad:

[robdogbucky]

9. One telling statement after one of the TV news reports this morning

The reporter ended her piece from the Port this morning, where there are still remnants of protestors at the gates making it difficult but not impossible for business to continue there said, "Of course the more media attention the protests get just strengthens their message."

That was on Channel 2, KTVU, which is a Fox affiliate but has been a leader in local news coverage here for decades. Well before Fox bought it.


The focus is now back to the Plaza.


What a change from yesterday at this time. Both in the weather and in the mood.


Did I read correctly from the headers of other threads from around the country this morning that violence had spiked in a number of cities overnight?


Lots of catching up to do this morning. Hope it is still safe to go down to the Plaza today.


What a 180 degree change from the end of day yesterday.


Sheeeeesh

[Tippy]

11. I caught a bit of decention on the ONashvill board this AM...I sure hope this is not a concerted eff

[Speck Tater]

14. One problem with being leaderless is that leaderless can become mindless in a hurry.

Mob psychology is a very frightening thing.

[EC]

17. I don't know...

The one Olbermann showed last night of an anarchist breaking a Wells Fargo window looked staged to me, the anarchist was looking directly at the camera like he was saying "now?" before hitting the window. He even looked like O'Keefe to me...but that's just me. I think many of these "anarchists" are hired hands of the 1%. They sure seem to show up a lot around the world, usefully for the elites to point to as chaos and violence, don't they?

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. And they never, ever, face arrest.

[EC]

20. You're right about that... n/t

[a simple pattern]

23. They always seem to know where the cops aren't going to be.

They used to all wear cop shoes but I think the cops are hiring kids now. They need to be apprehended and unmasked, photographed, outed and identified. That will stop them whether they are real anarchists or plants.

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. Some are what they seem to be

Some are badged...the mix ain't clear.

[Zorra]

21. The "Blackwater Bloc". nt

[robdogbucky]

26. Yup, others have made that connection w/Blackwater

I posted an article about it, but I inadvertently included the link in ths story to a site that is banned by this site. I will copy it again, sans link. Here's trying again.







Black Bloc — or Black Water?

By Jane Stillwater


The so-called Black Bloc that tried to disrupt Occupy Oakland on November 2, 2011, might not have been an anarchist group after all. After carefully studying a CBS News video of the Black Bloc’s attack on Whole Foods http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/video/6413167-team-coverage-occupy-protesters-march-on-port-of-oakland/, there is one conclusion that is very easy to reach.

The Black Bloc looks and acts like a SWAT team. The only question that remains is, “Whose SWAT team is it?” Hint: Not ours.

Perhaps “Black Bloc” is only a partially correct name for this group. Perhaps “Black Water” might be an even better moniker for them.

According to(site link not allowed here), this wouldn’t be the first time that agent provocateurs have been used at citizen protests against the nefarious One Percent. ”A union leader called out a group of ‘black bloc anarchists’ who were picking up rocks . The real black bloc protesters were shouting ‘POLICIER! POLICIER’, the would-be-rock throwers got up and cozy with the cops in the hats and bats, and quickly got themselves ‘arrested’ (and treated very gently by the police I might add.’ Turns out they were wearing the same brand of boot that the riot cops were wearing.”

“But, Jane, you’re just being paranoid,” you might say. Nah. We already know that these One Percent dudes are capable of doing ANYTHING to win. Fix elections, bomb countries, support dictators, steal from the Middle Class, plunder pensions, assassinate democratic heads of state, rig the stock market…. Why would they bother to start playing by the rules now?


http://bartblog.bartcop.com/

[JoeyT]

28. This is one of the things that kept a whole lot of people away from occupy that might have otherwise

been involved.

I don't mean the car running the people over. I mean the people that have to reach for the smelling salts because someone dared to dent a car that was in the process of running them over. You're not even allowed to defend yourself as you're being pushed along by a guy that ran a red light. Not only are they blaming the victim, they're blaming the victim for not being a willing enough victim.