Back from voting in Ohio, and I 'm madder at Kasich than before

[JohnnyRingo]

The 'Baggers here in Ohio worked to get the individual mandate from The Affordable Care Amendment on the ballot. They figured it would gut what they call "Obamacare" and put Ohio in the national spotlight for hating government health care. I argued with one guy at a petition tent at a car show last summer who told me he was on Medicare, but didn't want the govt to give health care to people in Ohio who didn't deserve it. He told me that it was unconstitutional.

This Summer as the deadline approached, found the baggers getting desperate. In the weeks before the half million signatures were due they began having "Treats For The Troops" events where people could bring Hostess crap to be distributed in Iraq and Afghanistan. While there, these tooth fairy patriots had the opportunity to sign the petition, which was really what it was all about.

Finally, just a few days before the election the Tea Party presented just enough signatures to pass. Though Democrats complained that many signatures were invalid, the Sec State assured dissenters that there were well enough to qualify.

That's how mad I already was at Kasich, but when I opened the ballot tonight there was the title of Issue 3:


...TO PRESERVE THE FREEDOM OF OHIOANS TO CHOOSE THEIR HEALTH CARE AND HEALTH CARE COVERAGE.....

WOW!!! FREEDOM!!... We get to keep our freedom to pick our own health care, and all we have to do is vote for Issue 3!

While the amendment would insure all that freedom, Kasich is hoping that voters didn't read the fine print below the word freedom that says you can't have free health care in Ohio:


1. In Ohio, no law or rule shall compel, directly or indirectly, any person, employer, or
health care provider to participate in a health care system.
2. In Ohio, no law or rule shall prohibit the purchase or sale of health care or health
insurance.
3. In Ohio, no law or rule shall impose a penalty or fine for the sale or purchase of
health care or health insurance.

The proposed amendment would not:

1. Affect laws or rules in effect as of March 19, 2010.
2. Affect which services a health care provider or hospital is required to perform or provide.
3. Affect terms and conditions of government employment.
4. Affect any laws calculated to deter fraud or punish wrongdoing in the health care industry.

[NNN0LHI]

1. I would be madder at my fellow citizens who voted for this former Lehman Brothers banker

Seriously.

Don

[Deep13]

2. WTF were they thinking? Idiots. nt

[Enthusiast]

15. Ohio dummies love Fox News

and Rush Limbaugh. They hang on every word then go around repeating everything they hear.

[WCGreen]

3. So far it's winning....

[DemReadingDU]

4. The wording is confusing

[Maraya1969]

5. Is there some sort of restitution in the form of another vote if it is

shown to be obvious that the wording of the vote was meant to deceive and was effective?

[Motown_Johnny]

6. It looks like it is going to pass too...

sad

[jzodda]

7. I am going to guess that this will wind up in Federal Court.

Since Congress passed the health care law and signed by the President its the law of the land. It naturally supersedes any law that would limit its scope no?

So this will just wind up as one of the many legal challenges to wind through before full implementation.

Having said that Ohio voters are not looking too smart at present. They go to the polls to support unions and limit healthcare? That's nuts!

[rucky]

8. AP just reported: Issue 3 passed.

2 out of 3 ain't bad, but crap...

[jeff47]

9. It really doesn't matter

Supremacy clause. Ohio can't repeal a federal law. They can pass all the right-wing propaganda they'd like, but it won't do anything to stop "Obamacare".

Heck, standing in the way means the Feds will probably have to set up Ohio's health insurance exchange. These useless antics are actually going to remove their chance at local control.

[JohnnyRingo]

10. You're right of course

I got pretty upset today and forgot the big picture: That this is just another T-Bag waste of time, like making English language a law.

[defendandprotect]

11. Really sad -- and certainly Congress should be protecting your citizens from trashing of "issue" --!

That should be overturned as illegal --

Congress should be on the job any minute now !!!!

[CitizenLeft]

12. I'm pissed off too. Those bastards were counting on us not paying attention...

...and it paid off. I KNEW it when I read it the first time, and saw the word "freedom" - a dead giveaway. Had it been worded so that people knew what they were voting for, it would have failed.

[DemReadingDU]

13. I voted no based on info I read on Internet

I went to the Internet to see who supported Issue 3. Basically Republican reps supported it, and Democrat reps were against it. So I voted no.

Further, one could look a the arguments for and against.


The following is the introduction to the official argument against Issue 3. Read the entire text:

Voting “NO” means that health care will be more secure because working families won’t be denied coverage due to a pre-existing condition. Voting “NO” also helps protect Ohioans from the risk of losing their coverage or being forced into bankruptcy when someone gets sick.
.
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Further down at the link...

A coalition of Tea Party groups and other groups announced on April 22, 2011 that it had collected more than 300,000 signatures towards ballot placement for 2011

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Ohio_Health_Care_Amendment,_Issue_3_%282011%29



And somehow I got a phone call from Pat Boone, urging me to vote yes on Issues 2 and 3. That did it. Voted no on both!

[CitizenLeft]

16. Pat Boone - eww! You have my sympathies!

..and that was a good site to hit. That didn't come up on my google, but it had a fishy smell, so I kept looking. Wish more people had.

[JHB]

14. I guess he doesn't know that Medicare is "unconstitutional" too...

It's "big government", don'cha know. You don't have to dig far to find RWers saying so.