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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:12 AM
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I think OWS needs to move beyond camping in parks.
Do i know what the next move should be? No. But I think #OWS has made as much an impact as it's going to make by camping in spaces throughout the country. It's time to shift gears. Does anyone have suggestions?
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Kalidurga Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:29 AM
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1. Yep
Creating alternative economies

Educating the public about current issues regarding the use of slave labor and exploited labor

Establishing a monthly move your money day of the month

More in your face actions like occupying city halls

Forcing banks to negotiate mortgages with people facing foreclosure

More outreach to long time activist groups

Keep a presence in the park but not necessarily as encampments (I like the camp idea)

Irk the authorities whenever and as much as possible

Occupy everywhere
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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:33 AM
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6. My idea
Target specific bad actors and hit them hard, just like the account withdrawals that made Bank of America stop the ATM fee.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 04:44 AM
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13. Agreed
Just looking over the last few months with the Netflix & BOA PR disasters I would agree with you. It is time to move on bad actors (and there are plenty from which to choose), one at a time.

There are other things that can be done in the interim such as supporting marches when available, meet ups, writing/calling our representatives, LTTE's and alike.

One thought that comes to mind is to request vacation information from the tourism folks of the various towns that have featured crackdowns & then simply toss them into the recycle bins when they arrive. It costs to print these, it costs to mail them (helping the post office a bit) and it makes a tiny statement.

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:31 AM
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2. The next step will just happen when the austerity measures are announced
whether the automatic trigger goes off or the committee suggests some solution.

People, especially older people, will react, and then we will know what the next step will be.

This is an organic process. It has a life of its own that is conceived from the greed, and fraud on Wall Street and in general in the lending and mortgage systems.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:32 AM
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5. Yup, all movements have an arc
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:32 AM
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3. I think that it would look like a surrender to stop camping on TPTB's terms.
As long as they are trying to stop this exercise of 1st amendment rights this will be effective.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:32 AM
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4. A couple hundred thousand people marching on Washington...
They should set up camp near the White House.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:35 AM
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7. Of course you know there is an occupyDC group
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SoDesuKa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:46 AM
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8. Public Relations to Counter Right Wing Portrayal as Dangerous Loonies
OWS hasn't done enough to respond directly to right wing attacks. How about infomercials titled Who We Are. Of course, when you take on the media, prepared to be buried. However, that's already happening.

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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:53 AM
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9. while there's definitely that shift coming
the movement itself has been very good at evolving on the ground as things change as well.

There's tons of commercial space empty everywhere... what about renting it out? what about finding a place in legal/foreclosure limbo and squatting?

i am sure the GA's are hosting all kinds of ideas like this, and there are most likely die-hards who will want to stay too... we'll see if it factions the movement, i am guessing not
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DontTreadOnMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 04:05 AM
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10. I would like to see a National level boycott on Koch Brothers companies
They only way to hurt the 1% is to hit their wallets
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 04:25 AM
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11. I think OWS needs to hold their ground in public spaces. It is the next step to
the free speech movement. We've lost near all control of the commons.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 04:28 AM
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12. And I find it both hilarious and sad that you characterize the movement as "camping in parks"
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michaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:31 AM
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14. "Camping" any where at this point may be futile. Time to spend days and evenings
protesting at different locations might work. We saw Wisconsin protesting but it seemed to me that other than camping out in their capital they convened on a location in numbers with their signs etc. There is always power in groups of large numbers. It is vital they stay calm and obey the laws other wise it is only used against them.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:34 AM
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15. A visible presence within cities should be maintained
but I am all for the acquisition of land and the establishment of communes/colonies.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:39 AM
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16. I'm for all of it! Everywhere, a demonstration on every fucking corner!
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