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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:24 PM Original message |
OK, this scares me. I am an Obama supporter. However, a line has been drawn re: OWS |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. OWS! n/t |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. Martial law requires the use of military forces |
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golddigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Homeland Security ringing any bells. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:23 AM Response to Reply #5 |
99. The new goon squad. |
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piratefish08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. he's given them carte blanche to do whatever the fuck they please. |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Presidents don't normally tell local officials how to run their cities |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. google little rock. You are incorrect i believe |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. 1. I said "normally" |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:20 AM Response to Reply #35 |
123. well his justice dept doesn't care about state's ri8ghts regarding mmj. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
188. And OWS is "normal". OWS is here whether you deny it or not. |
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FunMe (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #188 |
210. It's a movement, not a protest. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
203. Roosevelt |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #25 |
171. That was my FIRST thought |
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piratefish08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
38. that's as silly as swapping jokes and beers on the WH lawn over a local issue.... |
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Response (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:32 AM Response to Reply #13 |
103. That is a poor analogy to equate OWS with happy meals. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:37 AM Response to Reply #13 |
106. Again, two words: HOMELAND SECURITY. |
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Juneboarder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #13 |
133. Don't you think |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #13 |
151. He can say that he believes the protesters are non-violent, acting |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
173. You win the prize for the most offensive & inappropriate analogy I've ever seen on DU |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
190. Do they tell local officials that their laws on Medical Marijuana |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
222. a picture to illustrate the inaccuracy of this |
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Hestia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #222 |
229. This picture explains exactly why the cops here aren't doing to OWS Little Rock overnighters |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #7 |
105. Well, that is the position for public consumption. We don't know what all |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #7 |
144. the left gives them carte blanche by ignoring weeks of team limbaugh attacks on OWS |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #144 |
219. And it is then broadcast through out the whole network of |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:32 PM Response to Reply #219 |
252. that's the thing, there's no written record of the massive public dump that is daily talk radio repe |
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IthinkThereforeIAM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
231. He is not giving "carte blanche" to anyone... |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. True. But still. This was a coordinated effort. |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
34. He's a political animal. He'll support OWS if OWS polls favorably with the public |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:29 PM Response to Reply #34 |
53. This is a revolution and he has to choose sides. I think we will see the true Obama when he chooses. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #53 |
127. When? |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #127 |
167. The silence is the deafening |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #127 |
189. Exactly |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #53 |
139. He has already chosen. |
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piratefish08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #139 |
238. stop confusing the issue with facts! |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #53 |
142. Saying over and over again that it is a revolution does not make it so |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #142 |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 02:19 PM Response to Reply #142 |
184. And saying it isnt a revolution over and over wont make it go away. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #184 |
200. I don't want it to go away |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #200 |
209. So you think they will give up? Because the over-lords sure as hell wont. nm |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #209 |
212. Time will tell - if they can't find away to mainstream their message |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 08:03 PM Response to Reply #212 |
237. What do you suggest? nm |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:36 PM Response to Reply #237 |
248. They need to engage the political process somehow |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 11:59 PM Response to Reply #248 |
256. How do you recommend they "engage the political process"? nm |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-11 06:16 AM Response to Reply #256 |
257. Concise legislative goals |
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Skelly (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #200 |
213. Are all revolutions |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #213 |
249. Don't know |
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Skelly (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-11 02:19 AM Response to Reply #249 |
259. I hope |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:34 PM Response to Reply #142 |
247. Just because the MSM says so? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #53 |
179. Obama is Wall Street -- that's why he has a Wall street team -- !!! |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #179 |
185. Obama = Jeff Immelt = Obama nm |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:43 AM Response to Reply #34 |
109. That is your opinion. I think he will do whatever works with his big donors for now. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
162. If Obama's past comments were true and he really doesn't care about being reelected... |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #34 |
163. He consistently does NOT back popular positions |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #163 |
180. Dem/Third Way policy to "ignore the base of the party" --- !!! Ignore the will of the people -- !! |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
230. Incorrect |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
107. Then you must have a very good heart indeed, especially since this is such a conflict for you. |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
71. Does it? |
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Samantha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 12:46 AM Response to Reply #71 |
78. I have not heard anyone declared martial law |
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Aleric (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #78 |
132. We didn't "declare war" on Iraq or Afghanistan either |
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Juneboarder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #78 |
138. Two words: Patriot Act |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #78 |
153. thing is, you don't need the "official" military when you militarize the police. |
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AikidoSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 12:11 PM Response to Reply #78 |
158. Posse Comitatus was killed dead by the Bush administration Five Years ago |
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Ed Suspicious (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 08:42 AM Response to Reply #2 |
89. If these militarized police forces don't count as a de facto domestic military... n/t |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #89 |
121. +1 |
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Aleric (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #89 |
134. +1 And today's phrase is "de facto" |
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Response (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
95. Many of today's police forces were the black ops gear |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #95 |
197. Yep |
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Response (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 08:47 PM Response to Reply #197 |
240. Sorry. Wear (sp). |
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a2liberal (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:19 AM Response to Reply #2 |
97. Who do you think blocked the NYC airspace so helicopters couldn't get eviction photos? (n/t) |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:32 AM Response to Reply #2 |
102. That is probably an exaggeration, but he does seem to have been involved. |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #2 |
122. So what do you call it when police use military tactics? |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
155. these are local police depts manning high frequency sound cannons |
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iscooterliberally (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
168. Our military police state as been 40 years in the making. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:25 PM Response to Reply #168 |
245. Yeah, now we have to watch them watch us from the sky!! |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
224. Police Militarization |
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golddigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
3. Seconded. The movement. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
4. What do you mean by "practice Martial law techniques"? |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. I watched a vid of the NYPD moving the protestors out of the park |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Frankly, IMO, it looks like a coordinated attack on OWS, wherever it's coming from. n/t |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
42. It really does! |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
61. Blackwater was paid by DHS to train police all over the country. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #61 |
110. Where was the 2004 GOP convention held?? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:45 AM Response to Reply #15 |
111. Homeland Security. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Do you stand with the 99%? Do you think Obama stands with the 99% or Jeff Immelt? nm |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Yes. But I can still ask a question, can't I? I hardly watch TV, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #18 |
143. Deleted message |
graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. I'm hoping he stands with us. I believe that he does. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
57. He is in an extremely difficult position. This is a real revolution. This wont go away. He has to |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
194. Good luck! |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. 99 forever. Obama? bwahaha! Not so much |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #30 |
149. Indeed... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. i think the OP is talking about |
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PuraVidaDreamin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
6. I would say I feel exactly like you do. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #6 |
130. Plus a gazillion... |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
9. I choose resistance - I do not agree with how the status quo is running this country. nt |
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DLnyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
10. I support a radical change to our socio-economic system. |
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Imajika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
11. Obama is not against OWS... |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. As asked on another thread. Who faciliated the mayors coordinated attacks |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. If you think they were coordinated, don't you think the mayors would be capable of that? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. LOL - sure, they'd do that without the feds knowing |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 08:58 AM Response to Reply #24 |
94. Knowing and helping are two different things. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
113. Why not? What is so funny about that? |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #113 |
176. Hysterically funny! YOU labeling anyone else as having predispositions. |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #17 |
140. imajika is right, and if those mayors are mostly GOP this is easy to explain- anyone check that out? |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. This is a revolution. He has to choose sides. So far he hasnt. nm |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. I have not heard one way or the other what he thinks |
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piratefish08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
41. he isn't? |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #41 |
141. that's what the writer said of the spokesman... give me a break |
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piratefish08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #141 |
174. a spokesman doesn't speak on behalf of? Obama better fire his ass STAT and clear the air |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #174 |
191. he's voiced his support for peaceful protests on many occasions and imajika is right, as |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 12:05 AM Response to Reply #11 |
76. Neither is he for OWS... |
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cantbeserious (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 05:26 AM Response to Reply #11 |
81. There's Nothing in the Middle of the Road but Yellow Stripes and Dead Armadillos |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #81 |
195. Love Jim Hightower! |
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Response (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:23 AM Response to Reply #11 |
98. The best he can do? |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
193. He needs to exercise some leadership. Worrying what someone might say if he comes out against the |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
227. the state of Democratic leadership, starting from the POTUS on down |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
12. The line between police and military is rapidly blurring... |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Thank you for that! |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. Also used by the soldiers - er, I mean police in NYC |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. ! |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Don't worry! If you're innocent, you'll be safe |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:17 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Innocent according to whose laws? |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:29 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Aw, now you're just trying to cause trouble. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:40 PM Response to Reply #48 |
59. It's easy. THe 1% are innocent and the 99% are not. nm |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:28 AM Response to Reply #59 |
101. Money buys a lot of innocence. nt |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
58. Please include the sarcasm emoticon. nm |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:43 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Sorry, I figured my bowing down before Ed Meese was a dead giveaway |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 11:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
73. I am sorry. It's just that I have such a short fuse that I occasionally jump all over |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 11:55 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. No worries. We've all been there. (I'm a big Bernie fan -- and I mean that non-ironically.) n/t |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #37 |
124. iirc, acoustic weapons were first used against domestic population in 2008 |
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Ed Suspicious (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 08:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
91. I can't find the article now, but I read larger police forces have access to tanks |
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Serial Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
206. Since 9/11/01 Police have been trained as para-military |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
14. it is always so |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. I come from Puritans |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
55. My family came here in the 1880's. You know why? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
181. The Puritans were fascist .... |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
32. Mayvbe it's in my blood, coming from MA |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
234. There is a branch of my family that went to Canada too. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
31. So glad to have an Obama supporter say it. Thank you. nt |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Of course. |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
36. Obama does not control local police forces, and he has not called out |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #36 |
199. and yet, FDR called out the national guard |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #36 |
251. NOT TRUE! Look up CONPLAN 2502.... |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
39. He crossed my line long ago |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Mine too. As for #OWS....SOLIDARITY! |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Indeed! |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:51 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. That sign... |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 09:45 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Good call |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 09:15 PM Response to Reply #56 |
67. That's a keeper! |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 11:29 PM Response to Reply #39 |
72. Afraid so here as well. |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
43. I must say this again.. |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. There you go! You are correct. They do not follow party lines and |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 10:03 PM Response to Reply #45 |
70. :) |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
44. Absolutely. We support political ideals. If our "leaders" do not work their |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Not a "right" -- |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
49. My avatar says it all for me |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:23 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I love it |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Yes it does. The question is, should you convince some one that they are a slave if |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:46 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. Denial is a disease |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. That's my sig line |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. They sure are waking up! |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
63. + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - HUGE K & R !!! |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
69. Kick! |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-11 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
75. knr - I'll choose the movement. n/t |
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Huey P. Long (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
77. We are on our own. Support OWS, or get crushed into powder. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
79. I chose the movement long ago and have never supported this administration.... |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 04:54 AM Response to Original message |
80. The FBI helped coordinate the crackdowns. COINTELPRO? |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 08:55 AM Response to Reply #80 |
93. The examiner is not a reliable source |
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sandyj999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 06:31 AM Response to Original message |
82. I Choose OWS! He isn't interested. Huge disappointment in my life. But I'll get over it. |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
83. OWS over the DLC anyday |
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jerseyjack (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
84. Get Real. Obama is gonna do little for you or me. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
85. Sadly, they're all politicians in the end. We're on our own. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
86. Agree 100% |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
87. No question which side I'm on. nt |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
88. Obama's moment of truth is coming. |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #88 |
115. The truth is out there in plain view. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #115 |
161. I agree. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #88 |
164. It's come and gone-- several times. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #164 |
166. Wrong again. As usual. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #166 |
170. The question you ask never stumped anyone, and it's been answered a million times. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #170 |
175. So, just make stuff up, eh? |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #175 |
178. How can you so easily accept the fact that Congress was in the industry's pocket... |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #178 |
183. Really? Has this not been explained to you? |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #183 |
201. How about you answer my question instead of posing a different one? |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 04:02 PM Response to Reply #201 |
214. I don't blame you for not wanting to answer it. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #214 |
220. Yes, I'm sure the insurance industry is totally against Obama's mandate for citizens to |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #220 |
226. Wrong, it's your turn. Remember 'earnesty'? |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:02 PM Response to Reply #226 |
241. The answer to your quesiton is implicit in my reply. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #241 |
244. There are many people who will get to live that might just disagree with you. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #166 |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #192 |
216. Huh? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #216 |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #164 |
235. Remember Wisconsin? Obama napped through that one. nt |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
90. Movement! |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
92. Is he now a city mayor or something? Your post doesn't make much sense to me. nt. |
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a2liberal (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
96. K&R (n/t) |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
100. I stand with the movement, too |
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quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
104. This is getting bigger than any one man or politician, even Prez Obama |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
108. CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE == TERRORISM |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #108 |
202. read above |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
112. Obama's doing nothing wrong regarding this |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:02 AM Response to Reply #112 |
117. I won't consider my vote. But I find myself more and more |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #117 |
136. That's good, because no politician is supposed to be |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #112 |
165. Holy cow-- you think Obama's 100% A-OK and on the right page? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #112 |
198. Why in regard to OWS does he respect local powers, but not in legalized marijuana? |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #112 |
204. I'm sure glad FDR had a different take on that |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
114. I also choose the movement. |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
116. The police supression |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #116 |
118. ! |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
119. I don't hold much allegiance to politicians anyway. It should always be the values, not the person. |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
120. I choose my brothers and sisters over any political party or politician. |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
125. This is some of the displacement policies of civil liberties under Bush ratified by Obama |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #125 |
128. I'm seeing the same thing and it makes me think there's a secret % between |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
126. Two things: a) This government is supposed to require the consent of the governed. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
129. i knew you weren't hopeless after all |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
131. I feel the same way. |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
135. this is local bush homeland security shit, and a lot of it because left ignored RW radio and still |
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Aleric (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
137. Wow is this thread on its way to getting locked? |
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tbartlett2 (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
145. Police State |
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DaveJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
146. Police brutality, especially against protesters, has been around since forever. |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #146 |
148. Wow, great post. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #146 |
159. we are not just noticing police brutality now |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
150. Yesterday I almost posted that I feel like voting in 2012 and leaving |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #150 |
152. What an amazing turn of events since 2008 |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
154. Yeah, I definitely choose the movement over our "government." and I don't support the administration |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
156. I stand with Occupy. K&R (n/t) |
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julian09 (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #156 |
182. Gop are sermonizing OWS just to keep Obama from endorsing OWS |
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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
157. I believe he is sympathetic with OWS |
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davidthegnome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
160. I am with you, graywarrior |
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Mosaic (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
169. Yes |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
172. OWS no doubt. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
177. Obama has scared me since immediately after the election --- !!! But I'm also pro-OWS -- !!! |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
186. It also happens the other way around... |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #186 |
196. Really? I noticed a different trend. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #196 |
215. I'm not sure what the general trend is... |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 04:15 PM Response to Reply #215 |
217. Let's just say we're in the middle of a massive transformation |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #186 |
207. they're the same ones who say that the only way to get liberal policies is to blindly vote Dem |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
187. yes |
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Xtraneous (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
205. Give me a break! He's only been in office about 3 years! nt |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
208. The President takes an oath to defend the Constitution. |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #208 |
211. Maybe when there is more bloodshed. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
218. Wise choice. I am with you. k&r n/t |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
221. ''There is nothing to fear but fear itself.'' |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #221 |
232. LOVE IT! |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
225. Man, I am so happy I am on the side of OWS right now |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
228. Our Government can't handle the truth. |
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IdolHans (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
233. Citizens Pledge Allegiance to Nation, not the Government! |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
236. When it comes to the OWS movement, |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
239. While i support both the president and OWS i must admit posts like this amuses me greatly |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:12 PM Response to Reply #239 |
242. Amuse is such a belittling little word |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #242 |
243. What the h-e-double hockey sticks!! What happened to the duck!! Is it running amok! |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #243 |
246. He's occupying |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
250. Yes. |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
253. What the hell does Obama have to do with any of it? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:57 PM Response to Reply #253 |
255. I am not getting the connection either. Unless the OP is suspicious |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #253 |
258. A lot of people focus on Obama since 'the buck' stops with him |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-11 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
254. yes |
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