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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:28 PM
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Is there video of Cal-Davis cops forcing People's mouths open and spraying pepper-spray...
... down their throats? This was claimed in the letter the professor wrote demanding the resignation of the chancellor.

Can anyone direct me please?
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:32 PM
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1. Sure, give us a link to the letter where we can see that claim first
I must have missed that detail when I read it.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:33 PM
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2. I haven't seen any such video. Perhaps someone is confusing
Edited on Mon Nov-21-11 12:33 PM by MineralMan
it with that still photo of a woman's mouth being open while she is sprayed. I don't think that one was at UC Davis, though. Do you have a link the the claim you mentioned?
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:34 PM
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3. here's one
Edited on Mon Nov-21-11 12:35 PM by Enrique
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxaLKsFdcjk&feature=share


edit to add link to the letter:

(...)

Police used batons to try to push the students apart. Those they could separate, they arrested, kneeling on their bodies and pushing their heads into the ground. Those they could not separate, they pepper-sprayed directly in the face, holding these students as they did so. When students covered their eyes with their clothing, police forced open their mouths and pepper-sprayed down their throats. Several of these students were hospitalized. Others are seriously injured. One of them, forty-five minutes after being pepper-sprayed down his throat, was still coughing up blood.

(...)
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:41 PM
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6. Thanks. I hadn't seen this video. Can't see the offense in question.Thanks also for the excerpt...
Here's the link to the whole letter... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2342689


The video posted does not have a clear view of anyone actually having their mouth forced open. Still looking if anyone can help.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:03 PM
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8. what the hell?
This actually happened? That is a fucking war crime. Where is our fierce advocate?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:37 PM
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4. I haven't seen every bit of footage, but I'd doubt it strongly. The spraying was bad enough
without the professor resorting to hyperbole to make his case.

It was use of a sledgehammer where patience would have been more than sufficient.

People have to eat and drink, and they have to pee and poop. Eventually, that chain of protesters would have gone their merry way to do those things.

Clever police would have isolated them so that they couldn't be reinforced, let them have their protest, and waited them out.

Stupid police (what, was their a football game they wanted to watch?) try to hurry things along. Hell, even buckets of ICE WATER would have been smarter than pepper spray!

But then, these aren't real police--they're campus police, and they're generally not as sharp as the real item (and we've seen some of them do foolish things, too...).
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:40 PM
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5. i read that this morning
in an interview with one of the students who was pepper sprayed. she said also that one of the arrestees on that day was zip cuffed so tight his hands turned purple and after seeing the doctor he was told that he may have suffered permanent nerve damage. yet another had been sprayed over his hands and while under arrest was given no relief for the burning.

http://boingboing.net/2011/11/20/ucdeyetwitness.html

there may not be video but i believe it. the police committed criminal acts of torture and should be charged.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:46 PM
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7. Thanks. Hadn't seen the (very powerful) interview. n/t
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