OBAMA GETS A NOTE FROM THE 99 PERCENT MOVEMENT: ‘WE GOT SOLD OUT’

[kpete]

| President Obama received a note from a protester after his jobs speech in Manchester, New Hampshire this afternoon. The note tells the president to “stop the assault on our 1st amendment rights,” and “Banks got bailed out. We got sold out.” Obama addressed the movement directly after he was mic checked during his speech, saying, “You’re the reason that I ran for office in the first place.” See the note handed to Obama:

http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/11/22/374904/obama-gets-a-note-from-the-99-percent-movement-we-got-sold-out/

[Fire Walk With Me]

1. I love it but I expect nothing. And hopefully, no offer of half-measures.

Net recommendation: 0 votes (Your vote: +1)

[UnrepentantLiberal]

2. Mic checked by high school students. Ouch.

I got you up to +2 :-0

[Cali_Democrat]

3. K&R

[tblue]

4. If he says "People are frustrated" one more time,

I will scream. A bad hair day is frustration. No job, no pension, no future is an outrage!!!

[woo me with science]

31. [phone] Thank you. nt

[Plucketeer]

35. Insulated by his staff of Wall Streeters..

this was probably the first time Obama's heard the phrase, "We got sold out!" He sure to hell hasn't heard any of our other pleas since he took office!

[Beavker]

39. +1

Agreed.

When I speak to someone regarding the war in Afghanistan, et al...sometimes I think, "should I reserve my judgment? Am I just preaching my own opinion?" But then I think, you know, I can withhold my opinion if it's what car is the coolest to buy, or which team I think should be in the BCS, or what movie sucks or doesn't suck. But these wars create DEATHS. So, I can say what I GD want to say when people are dying, whether you think it's a good reason or not!

My point I suppose is the situation should be put into perspective, and only someone that is NOT jobless would say that something like starving, losing their home, or dying from a treatable condition is 'frustrating'.

Good call.

[provis99]

54. how about Clinton and his "I feel your pain" crap?

Politicians have been doing this fake empathy for centuries.

[Cherchez la Femme]

95. And? How about it??

First, the subject is Obama, not ancient history; nor comparing the two as exactly equal or in equitable circumstances.
Although I'd be hard-pressed to find a NAFTA-type or Trade Agreement they mutually didn't like!


Secondly, Clinton's phraseology, as fake-sounding as it was, in itself no way ameliorates or excuses Obama completely dropping the ball on his statements towards the 99% of U.S. citizens who are hurting or suffering-- hungry, freezing, living in poverty, evicted and/or otherwise homeless-- to the ever increasing and tightening of our societal downward spiral

That's comparing apples and oranges,

or should I say comparing one to a mild cold/or similar flu and the other with with rattling bronchial pneumonia and no Health Insurance
...Oops I should have meant ROMNEY\OBAMACare---where the healthiest by far are the Insurance Profiteers, Investors and of course Profits Earnings and Dividends?


Thirdly, just because "Politicians have been doing this fake empathy for centuries."

Does this still mean, in this long-past post-age of enlightenment,

we should still be tolerating such outright Lies and Greed which contribute directly to the plebes quality of care, best possible health, nutrition, comfort, welfare, who gets the choice extraneous body-parts, and therefore who lives or dies as least upon the fullness of their wallet?


And STILL be tolerating professional,mostly if not all wealthy, politicians LIES??!


Educate me as to what a equally-based, classless society we are!



Please, ENLIGHTEN me!




Oh, and Major HOGwash --a very fitting name in more ways than one-- since you took the time to tell me in no uncertain terms I am banned from the sight of your sore eyes, not even to a Private Message
(as if I would!)
do not worry -- my words here will not sully your Hagiographic world-view!

Praise!

[UrbScotty]

5. 84% of liberal Democrats disagree - that's how many support Obama

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/presidential-approval-center.aspx

[slay]

6. So Obama should just ignore this? Really? We should mean nothing to him cause he is polling well?

if that's the attitudes of Democrats like you - I don't think I am one!

[Raine]

8. Yeah polls are all that matter, who cares about

people being screwed over as long poll numbers are high. :sarcasm: x(

[ladyVet]

12. See, I don't get this.

These polling numbers are brought up every time somebody points out the president's less than liberal leanings, yet we are also told that liberals are only a fraction of the Dem party. So, 85% of 25% = ?

[MelungeonWoman]

14. Could be sarcasm...

could be a troll. I can't tell.

[HillWilliam]

44. Love your handle

Hey "cuz" and welcome to DU.

[Huey P. Long]

16. Good point. -eom

[Lorien]

21. None of the liberal Dems I know are happy with Obama

and about half won't vote for him again.

[tpsbmam]

46. Only one of the Dems I know is happy with Obama and that Dem is part of the 1%!!

I know a wide variety of Dems. Most are as liberal as I am, but there are few more conservative ones thrown in there. Not one is happy with Obama. Except, as mentioned, the one Dem I know who's firmly planted in 1% territory. The truly liberal Dems I know are as disgusted as I am.

[INdemo]

64. Liberal Democrats will stay home on election day..

(Remember they don't care about the progressives)

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

89. Dream on Chomsky

[INdemo]

122. I am not dreaming...I will hold my nose and vote for Obama

but I will be voting for a Republican with D label..Some liberals wont be so kind and they see no difference between someone that fed them a line of BS and any other Republican...

[uponit7771]

115. This is how we got RayGun, they liberals you know could care less though

[dotymed]

38. I think those are mostly pragmatists.

Lesser of two evils.

[MissDeeds]

47. Yep, I've noticed that too

And I don't care what "poll" they trot out, I don't believe for a second that liberals support this president, let alone 85%.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

84. Yep

Fuck reality

[_ed_]

20. Well, then who cares about OWS? The polls have spoken

Tim Geithner approves this message.

[sabrina 1]

24. Those numbers, oddly, have not changed in two years.

They represent a tiny fraction of the population. People on a list of Democrats who are loyal, Democratic Party Voters.

If I am called, I would respond the same way. Which means absolutely nothing in terms of how I feel about the current horrendous situation, the cabinet members he is surrounded by eg, among a myriad of other things.


The reason I would say 'yes' to such a poll, is because I have moved beyond believing that the president has much power anyhow. I do not know what he might have done if we had system that was not taken over by Wall Street so I give him the benefit of the doubt and the other side is too scary to even contemplate.

The system is the problem that needs to be addressed. When people say 'President Obama is irrelevant', it is not meant personally to him, it means we have finally realized that no matter who makes it to the WH, even someone with the best intentions, it will not matter.

So, while we work on fixing this major problem, with the choices we now have, it's better to not endorse the other truly evil side by answering a poll on Democrats negatively.

[eridani]

56. My sediments exactly

I will never diss a Democrat to a pollster, even the ones I would rather see in hell than back in office.

[quakerboy]

114. Another vote for that one

No matter how pissed I am at the betrayals of the current crop of democratic politician sell outs, I am not about to give the mainstream media and their paid pollster buddies one more talking point to try to shove our democratic politicians even more to the right.

[crunch60]

92. Until we stop the

gravy train between Wall Street and the White House, nothing will change. With the exception of a few, everyone, every office is bought and sold, like the present Supreme Court of (un)Justice, at least five of them anyway.

[Hissyspit]

25. That doesn't mean they disagree.

[JDPriestly]

26. They support Obama compared to Romney, Perry or Cain.

If there were a candidate with a record of standing up to Wall Street -- like Eliot Spitzer (see Client 9 if you want to know what happened with his call-girl scandal) or Bernie Sanders (who cannot be reproached either personally or politically) or Marcy Kaptur, or Dennis Kucinich, then we would know how much support Obama really has or does not have.

Obama is the better of a bunch of bad choices. That's why he has the support of liberals.

[Enthusiast]

30. That and we do not want to hear Fox News gloat when

Obama's numbers are in the shitter.

[csziggy]

43. I support Obama while being disappointed in many of his decisions

And actions. So the two positions may not be separate groups.

[Dutchmaster]

49. How ambivalent of you.

[csziggy]

62. We're at the same point we always are - picking the best of the worst

I long ago realized that by the time any politician made it to a high level, they had sold out and would not really represent the average person. We just have to pick the best of what is there and hope that they will not do further damage to the country.

But I am afraid we've lost completely, so I'm rooting for the occupiers to make a difference.

[txlibdem]

50. Obama is only doing what his BOSSES tell him to do... nothing more, nothing less

But I'm in your shoes as well...

[fascisthunter]

45. if Obama and his folks REALLLY want to win the Next Election

... they better act like it, because this, gives Obama the false impression that liberals are satisfied. Is that what you want... it would be advantageous to him to listen to the majority of liberals on DU instead of this poll. Liberals around me are not voting for him, and that is a large number of folks which are here and offline.

[crunch60]

93. and that is just what the Republicans want,. Everybody

hate Obama, don't vote for him, don't vote for the Democrats. If the right wing Republicans get in, we are doomed.

[dflprincess]

63. More accurately, 84% of the people who self identify as "liberal Democrats"

support Obama.

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[Fumesucker]

7. Net recommendation: +14 votes (Your vote: +1)

[Philosopher King]

9. I firmly believe we blundered by not forcing the banks to deal with their bad assets.

As for the notion of "too big to fail," I ask why? Because Bernanke and Geithner told us so? Nonsense--they gambled and lost; and they should have suffered the consequences of their actions. The base of the economic pyramid is the foundation. Allowing a few fat cats to tumble from their perches would have hurt--but it would have them more than the rest of us.

If these banks were indeed to big to fail, why hasn't our Congress eliminated this "danger" by decentralizing the U.S. banking system? And why are they allowing the "too big to fail" to just keep getting larger and larger and larger?

[Enthusiast]

33. Hey! Let's not leave Hank Paulson off the list.

[txlibdem]

51. North Dakota has a State-Owned Bank... and their economy is doing JUST FINE

Hint, hint. We screwed up by not nationalizing the banks... ALL OF THEM.

[eridani]

58. Yea, but remember to use the right comparisons

--namely to other cold, thinly populated resource rich states like Montana and Alaska. ND is doing much better than either, despite far less oil and gass production per capita.

[RickFromMN]

91. I think North Dakota's oil, has something to do with their economic condition.

[txlibdem]

120. It's time to NATIONALIZE THE BANKS... get it?

[bvar22]

52. Hank Paulson AND Co-Conspirators

Paulson with Co-Conspirators

Now THIS is Bi-Partisanship.
Better get used to it, SUCKERS!!
Hahahahahahaha


"Thank GAWD it Passed!!!!"
They congratulated themselves for "Saving the Economy",
but that is not true.

They "saved" the jobs and bonuses of a few VERY RICH, Wall Street CEOs & Insiders,
and they prevented the portfolios of the Ownership Class from taking a loss,
but the didn't "Save the Economy."
The "Economy" is MUCH MORE than Wall Street.

It took our Congress less than a week to hand over a TRILLION DOLLARS
to some of the richest fucks in America based on nothing more than a short, vague Extortion Note.
This robbery was cleverly timed to Go Off during the change over of administrations,
lending Plausible Deniability to BOTH parties.
....but THATS just another coincidence, isn't it?



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
Solidarity99!
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[rhett o rick]

71. Because republicons filibuster everything. nm

[cui bono]

79. Correction: Because they THREATEN to filibuster everything.

Thanks to Reid they never actually have to do it. I think things would be different now if they had to actually do it. I'm sure it's not only Reid making the decision to back down each time.

[rhett o rick]

103. Yes I agree. nm

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[rhett o rick]

104. Super-majorities my asp. Nothing got passed in the Senate.

Maybe you forgot that the Senate ignored hundreds of bills passed by the Democrats in the HOR and they filibustered the rest.

And dont you mean from 2008 thru 2009?

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[rhett o rick]

108. And I remember this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cloture_Voting,_United_States_Senate,_1947_to_2008.svg

Interesting that you are defending the republicons.

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[rhett o rick]

113. Your insinuation of the great advantage of the Democrats overlooks

the fact that the Senate has enough Conserva-Dems or Blue-Damn-Dogs to stymie most Democratic issues.

Have a great Thanksgiving

[rhett o rick]

105. And your condescension is childish. nm

[jannyk]

10. k&r (+18)

[Stuart G]

11. k & r thanks for posting...nt

[xchrom]

13. recommend

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[Bragi]

17. Obama may have trouble making any public speeches now

I have a feeling this isn't the last time he will be Mic Checked.

Way to go 99%ers! Keep up the pressure!

[glinda]

19. +1

[JDPriestly]

27. Same for Rove, et al. They will all be mic checked.

And they all deserve it. They talk too much and never listen to anyone who disagrees with them.

Can't wait until Boehner and McConnell get mic checked as they campaign in 2012. I don't live in there districts, but it is bound to happen.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

85. Did you see the video?

I thought Obama handled it pretty well.

[inna]

94. we do not live in a democracy, unfortunately, despite the common mythology

[Autumn]

18. What a nice empty sound bite.

It address what exactly? The lack of jobs for the young people, their crippling student debt? Hollow empty rhetoric, as usual.

[Cali_Democrat]

22. Kick

[blkmusclmachine]

23. Obama knows what's going on. And the SILENCE is deafening.

[russspeakeasy]

28. Expect nothing.

[lonestarnot]

55. Then, either way, you won't be disappointed will you.

:P

[Enthusiast]

29. Kicked and fucking recommended!

The only problem with the note? Obama already knows this and he is not allowed to voice support for OWS or investigate Wall Street and hold them accountable. Just as he has not investigated the Bush Administration and held them accountable. Now, if you do not agree with that, the alternative is worse. What's it going to be?

[Shining Jack]

41. +1 n/t

[cui bono]

80. He *chooses* not to, for whatever reason. n/t

[woo me with science]

32. K&R

[meow mix]

34. k&r

[bertman]

36. Damn! I wish it had been me who gave him that note. REC. nt

[joshguitar]

37. Yes

And he did nothing....


sad

[TriMera]

40. K&R. n/t

[OnyxCollie]

42. K&R. nt

[MissDeeds]

48. K&R n/t

[WillyT]

53. K & R !!!

:kick:

[Major Hogwash]

57. It was disrespectful of the President of the United States.

And it demonstrated just how immature some of those kids are!!!

[gateley]

60. I can't agree, Major Hogwash (not that you probably care),

but I think it's a clear and concise statement of how many are feeling and the President should be made aware.

I wouldn't have thought it was disrespectful if given to Bush - quite the contrary.

I often wonder how much gets through to those in such an insulated position. They have to rely so heavily on others to find what's happening, and getting information that way is always subject to interpretation. Like all Fox news watchers believe one set of truths because that's all the input they get. Don't know how much time a sitting President actually has to take the pulse of the people, and I think this note did a good job of reminding him what spawned OWS.

[Major Hogwash]

72. I can assure you --- and everyone else -- that President Obama knows what is going on.

He uses a Blackberry, for Christ's sake!
He doesn't live in a cave!

:)

[rhett o rick]

102. And yet he ignores massive police brutality in his country while chastising other countries

for the same thing. I agree he knows what is going on and has chosen not to side with the 99%. It certainly would affect his campaign contributions from the 1%.

[patrice]

70. hogwash!!

[rhett o rick]

75. Ah yes, disrespectful. We must be sure to respect the overlords. nm

[Major Hogwash]

76. Obama is an overlord now???

:rofl:

[rhett o rick]

101. I do hope not, but his pal Jeff Immelt is. nm

[Union Scribe]

112. In your dumb world where he's above all the commoners, maybe. nt

[Logical]

77. LOL....yes, he s royalty!

[Major Hogwash]

97. You said that, I didn't.

Try using logic next time.

:)

[Marr]

81. You're so right-- plebes aren't supposed to criticize their betters.

But who expects manners from that great beast, the unwashed masses?

/cake

[Major Hogwash]

96. That makes no sense.

They aren't plebes.

:)

[piratefish08]

100. yes - that's what we need to get issues addressed - decorum.....

those "kids" proved to the world that the President IS aware of the abuses occurring physically and financially in the US.


the ball is now firmly in his court and it makes excusing his silence difficult if not impossible.


an uncomfortable position for some..........

[Occulus]

109. Respect is earned, and can be lost.

Respect is not a thing that should ever be given by default, regardless of your social or political prominence.

As to "immature", you're just wrong. Immaturity lies in being unable to handle this sort of thing when it happens.

[Union Scribe]

111. Lol. He's not a king, oh adoring one.

[Major Hogwash]

119. There will be statues made of President Obama after he leaves office.

There will be streets renamed after President Obama when he leaves office.
There will be buildings named after President Obama after he leaves office.
There will be airports named after President Obama when he leaves office.
He will get his own frickin' stamp!
We might even ask for a new denomination for coins to place his likeness on our money!

Hell, I'm even thinking of going down to the dawg shelter and getting another dawg.
And then naming him "President Obama", so I can go to the back door at dusk to call him in for the night just so I can piss off my neighbors!
I'm going to get a BLACK lab!!

It is my density!

[gateley]

59. Did Obama actually receive/see/read the note? Anybody know? Thanks. nt

[Historic NY]

65. Yes he did thats his thumb and the kid was ear to ear with a smile...

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/EHquz8poxsCqt1RBb5qDZg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/

http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/22/8959904-ows-protester-hands-note-to-obama

find the video he read it...

[gateley]

121. Thanks - didn't know if that was a real shot or not. nt

[colsohlibgal]

61. He Sold Us Out Right Away

I've yet to hear one apologist rationalize Obama hiring Summers and Geithner as his financial braintrust, his going for the Rubin WS insider club instead of the Reich populist crowd. That put him on double secret probation with me right out of the shute.

[IamK]

66. whoever delivered it is anti obama and they don't need a voice... n/t

[certainot]

67. we wouldn't need OWS if the left had a response to 1% radio

the 99 sells itself out by ignoring the 1% radio, the biggest soapbox in the country, ignored while it has been undermining normal democratic feedback mechanisms.

our elected reps in a democracy shouldn't have to keep a shotgun by the door but by ignoring talk radio , that is what it's come down to.

[burrowowl]

73. K&R

[The_Casual_Observer]

74. " I feel your pain"

It's that "compassion thing"

[lovuian]

82. Obama is no FDR is he

he is silent

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

86. Of course FDR had a large Democratic majority in Congress

But don't let facts get in the way of your argument.

[Cali_Democrat]

87. Obama must remain silent about this because he doesn't have a large Dem majority in Congress?

Huh?

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

88. He's remained silent?

About what? Be specific.

[Cali_Democrat]

90. Obama has remained silent about the assault on OWS protester's first amendment rights.

That's what the note is referring to. We see thousands arrested for peacefully protesting. We have also seen police brutality directed at OWS and Obama has remained silent.

What are you talking about?

[Major Hogwash]

98. President Obama has already addressed the OWS protests 4 times in the last month!!

Seriously, count them, 4 times.

:)

[rhett o rick]

106. Apparently your links failed. nm

[uponit7771]

118. naw, naw...fuck facts....better to just lie about Obama at this point, bashers believe anything

[uponit7771]

117. FDR had an 83% dem congress too!!!!!!!!!!!!!, bashers usually leave that fact out of the equation...

[bigwillq]

83. K and R

:thumbsup:

[roman7]

116. as a oldish hippie i can remember nixon raising a toast on a washington balcony

while vietnam protesters were getting their heads beat in on the grounds below him & his fellow dirty tricks gang.i posted this this just to remined everyone the difference between dems & repukes

[nolabels]

124. Yea and nothing has changed

I also once was proud but knowing someone has put their heart into it is karma and momentum enough and is a good reason to pitch in. The lessons of the past of what didn't get done in the way it should have actually serves us well. That teach-in thing, the establishment hates that part, thanks for being there

Crashing their party should be our next stop

And a final thought; The only real difference i personally can see between most Dems and repukes is the amount of brainwashing they have succumbed to. Of course much of R's Party has installed sociopaths in leadership positions but mostly i see that lower rank and file as not really understanding or knowing why that understanding would matter.

[billofrightsalive]

123. US Constitution/Bill of Rights & Presidency ...

It was because we held beliefs such as those represented by the OWS protests that we voted for a SEACHANGE, hoping that then senator obama understood what was needed to restore the USA to the JFK/RFK/LBJ version of Us Constitutional democracy, and that he meant his promise to provide a SEACHANGE as president. Unfortunately, we did not ask senator obama to explicate his meaning of SEACHANGE CAMPAIGN PROMISES and clearly, he is yet to fully comprehend what SEACHANGE was/is needed. Does President Obama read/listen to Robert Reich when he takes the time to explain what is needed to help the USA and the american people in commentary on huffington post.com et al. ? Perhaps it is a generational thing, i.e., Mr Obama just did not grow up alongside RFK ... did not understand Patrick Kennedy and Robert Kennedy Jr when they argued vociferously in the US House of Representatives back in the late 1980's/early 1990's ? and what of Joe Biden, he SHOULD know, SHOULD be whispering in president obama's ear to boost comprehension needed to formulate vital solutions now ... Biden stated recently he might run for president in the future ... ? !! he's VP now, why hasn't he educated president obama appropriately to make up for the generational knowledge gap ?! by their actions so shall ye know them...Biden has proven he is not a credible presidential candidate. WHY hasn't president obama taken Robert Reich into the executive branch to orchestrate the recovery needed ... ?! Does any of the press/media understand how the past 35 years of wrong policies have created the current 'second great depression' ? clearly not, since they all went along with politicians postulating the china economic engine would recover the world from the economic pit the republicans, tories, and every other adam-smith-conomics moron have unilaterally created, and except for Tony Benn, John Smith, Donald Dewar, and Gordon Brown of the UK, without any counterbalance/counterpoint from the so-called "liberals" who failed to produce the regulation and controls of business, finance, banking, and economics vital to re-establishing stable and strong individual national economies which would have nurtured a positive global trade beneficial to development and democracy for each and every nation, each and every Indivdual of every nation.

So why haven't the educated Press/Media explained to the american people BEFORE political chicanery dupes them yet again how this mess was created, what needs to be visioned to undo it, and what remedial actions need doing to fix it ... ? !!

p morrison
sunningdale, berks uk/cambridge, ma