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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 10:37 AM
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The Unmentionable: Land Mines in Afghanistan Sexually Mutilate US Troops


http://blog.buzzflash.com/node/13168


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America's real life veterans are facing struggles that are unlikely to ever be depicted in any video game.

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For veterans whose physical lives were immensely altered by combat, they have all of the above and an additional set of challenges involving the loss of limbs, and severe brain disorders. And, within this group are a subset of veterans forced to deal with the loss of the most apparent symbol of manhood; ones penis..

"The signature physical wound of the war in Afghanistan begins when you step on a homemade bomb," Men's Health contributing editor Bob Drury writes in the November 2011 edition of the magazine. "Most of these are built with the fertilizer ammonium nitrate, an ingredient widely available throughout Afghanistan. The detonation, triggered either by a buried pressure plate or, less often, a command wire operated by a nearby enemy, instantly pulverizes the flesh, bone, tissue, and muscle of one or both of your lower limbs. In all likelihood the force of the explosion will sever the nerves in your leg or legs, and yet you will experience little pain. Surprisingly, as shock sets in and you lie in your pooling blood, you may not feel anything but a vague sense of pressure, as if a strong man were wrapping both hands around one of your calves and squeezing as hard as he could.

"In many cases, the force of the explosion also travels straight up into your genital and pelvic area, blasting tiny shards of rock and dirt into your torso between your front and rear Kevlar body-armor flaps," Drury continued. "If all or part of your 'package' is not blown off by the detonation itself, the flying debris from the blast often penetrates soft tissue, leaving you vulnerable to penile, scrotal, testicular, and rectal infections. If the damage is bad enough, it could even lead to a full or partial amputation of your genitals."

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"The number of severe genital wounds has tripled," Drury reports, "causing Pentagon and Department of Veterans Affairs official to scramble to review insurance packages that assess, for instance, the value of a severed thumb at $50,000 but assign no dollar value on damage to a penis or testicles," although the affected person "may receive disability payments for a genital injury, if the VA deems it serious enough."
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and then there is this:

A lot of these kids with damaged or lost testicles are looking at a lifetime of hormone treatments. Yet each patient has different dosage needs. How much should you give them? Well, we're still trying to figure that out."

And because these medical issues are relatively new, "Nobody knows how to do this yet," Glaser added. "But I'll tell you one thing. We're going to have to learn pretty quickly. That's one thing wars do - turn medical techniques honed on the battlefield into standard civilian medical practice."


the pentagon should be turned into an apartment building

wars are for the Barons - their pockets need filled with war money
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 10:42 AM
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1. Bring everyone home from all the -stan suffixed countries and this problem,
along with many others, will be removed.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 10:44 AM
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2. Good Lord, that's awful. It's really not that new, but at least we're doing something.
Or starting to do something about it. For men, they're looking at losing their genitals, and for women, I'm sure they deal with the same thing and lose the chance to have a child.

Wow. This is awful! Bring them home!!!
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 10:48 AM
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3. Seriously wounding the enemy is much more advantageous than killing him
It removes the person from the fight. It cause others to focus on rescuing and caring for the wounded person. It incurrs ongoing use of resources to care for the person. It reduces the productivity of the enemy country. It saps enemy moral.

It's why armies use full metal jacket ammunition instead of expanding bullets.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 10:58 AM
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4. It's good to show the horrors of war to the armchair warriors who treat it like a video game.
Edited on Wed Nov-23-11 10:59 AM by qb
Bring the troops home now.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 12:09 PM
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8. Armchair warriors won't get it until their TV shoots back.
Their only reaction to wounded troops is to be disgusted by them.

Personally I think that advocating war in public ought to be a binding contract to join the military.
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DocMac Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 11:15 AM
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5. 50K for a thumb?
They don't even want to try and put a number on a lost penis. OMG, the number would have a lot of 0's on it, to me.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 07:56 PM
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11. That's one possibility.
But a phrase or two earlier, insurance was mentioned, and I gather that would be from some Big Corporate firm. Aren't there some allegations "out there" regarding desired population reductions? And, aren't population reductions one of the effects of war? Population reduction seems harmonious to a genital value of $0.00.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 11:17 AM
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6. Luang Prabang by David Van Ronk
Edited on Wed Nov-23-11 11:20 AM by ret5hd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w5JlDn9WCw

Luang Prabang
(Dave Van Ronk)

When I came back from Luang Prabang
I didn't have a thing where my balls used to hang
But I got a wooden medal and a fine harangue
Now I'm a f***ing hero


cho: Mourn your dead, land of the free
If you wanna be a hero, follow me
Mourn your dead, land of the free
If you wanna be a hero, follow me

And now the boys all envy me
I fought for Christian democracy
With nothing but air where my balls used to me
Now I'm a f***ing hero

One and twenty cannons thundered
Into the bloody pale blue yonder
For a patriotic balless wonder
Now I'm a f***ing hero

In Luang Prabang there is a spot
Where the corpses of your brothers rot
And every corpse is a patriot
And every corpse is a hero
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 12:04 PM
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7. we can't make blast proof nut cups?
oh that's right, all the funding goes to airplane technology or nuke tech, or war toy tech. no research for better helmets either.

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 12:31 PM
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9. I am inspired
In the wake of the latest wave of "protecting women from themselves" legislation that we've seen over abortion, I propose legislation that gives full information to prospective military recruits. In addition to the snappy four color "Be all you can be" brochures, there should be some intensive instruction to young men and women about just what a tour of duty might entail besides training in leadership, blasting terrorists, defending freedom and making everyone back home proud. Featured speakers might include abused spouses and children, a trip through various wards at the VA hospital, up close and personal inspection of the scars from various devices, and so forth.

We want our young men and women making fully informed choices, don't we? Or don't we?
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 08:30 PM
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13. Has anyone here seen Lisa Ling's Our America on OWN?
Yes, it's Oprah Winfrey's network. I think the episode Ms. Ling did on veterans should be shown on all networks. It should also be shown to Congress. Tie their salaries to whether or not they attended (and sat through) a screening.

Ms. Ling interviewed vets that participated in a week-long program to help those returning home with PTSD and worse. I'm not sure if the entire episode is available for viewing online, but it is well worth your time.

http://www.oprah.com/own-our-america-lisa-ling/Invisible-Wounds-of-War-Breaking-Their-Silence

THIS is what our government ignores while waving the flag: Those who return home are broken in body and mind. The last five minutes features an interview with a vet who works for a hotline aiding other vets. Again, if you have a chance to catch a broadcast of it, I can't urge anyone strongly enough to watch it.

We have no business making more veterans till we can take care of the ones we already have.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 12:36 PM
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10. I think
Cheney and Bush ought to donate their genitals in solidarity. They both ought to be on trial at the Hague.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 08:01 PM
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12. 1 - 2 penis amputations/day on average. I say this fact to anyone thinking of enlisting.
Women also suffer grievous genital area injuries.

I know, I know, a lot of these kids believe they are bulletproof but I always try to get them to think even a little bit about the possible consequences...


Its a horrible, horrible stat. :cry: :cry:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 08:46 PM
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14. I bet they don't mention that at the recruiting drive. nt
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 09:50 PM
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22. You could run a great anti-recruitment drive on this alone.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 08:52 PM
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15. Ideally, a military weapon would kill nobody, just inflict crippling and grievous wounds.
If a bomb goes off and kills a soldier, well, his comrades fight on and recover the body later. You bury the body, pay the life insurance off to the widow, and maybe she and the kids get a pension of some kind.


If a bomb goes off and rips the legs off a solder, well now two more soldiers have to drag him to the medic, so they're out of the fight for some time, and shaken by their buddy's wounds and pain. Time, money, and manpower is spent treating the wounds of the soldier. The soldier has to be transported back to a field hospital, which ties up logistical resources in the establishment and maintenance of the hospital and its staff, plus the logistical resources to move around wounded soldiers.

The soldier must be nursed back to health, which costs resources, fitted with prosthetics (if possible), which are expensive, and then likely has to return to civilian life and re-educated on the government dime to start a new career. Or, if the soldier can't use a prosthetic, then he's on a lifetime disability pension (50 years, 60 years, 70 years, maybe) while simultaneously producing sharply less economic productivity than he would have otherwise. And maybe he needs constant care, like a visiting nurse or a nursing home or assisted living or something, plus anti-depressants and medicines and counseling and whatnot.

Plus, for the next several decades people seeing him in everyday life will be demoralized by his wounds.




The Hague Agreement outlawed expanding-point bullets in 1898 due to the grievous wounds they inflict on soldiers. Nowadays, expanding-point bullets are practically mandatory among hunters of game large and small due to the increased lethality of the bullets, but the military is forbidden from using them. Sometimes I wonder if the people at the Hague were compassionate and trying to preserve human life, or sadists looking to increase human misery.

:-(
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 08:54 PM
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16. It seems this would be less of a problem for a female soldier.
Okay, yeah, shrapnel wounds wouldn't be any different, but at least the sex organ and critical hormone factories would be safer.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 08:58 PM
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17. Mines have always been a terrible weapon...
explosives always take the path of least resistance. Ground below... legs and balls above... you figure it out.

Why? Ferchrissakes... why?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 09:12 PM
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18. Yes, war is very unpleasant.
Chickenhawk fucks will continue to bang those drums though. As long as they have no skin in the game, who cares?
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 09:26 PM
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19. Holy crap that sounds painful.
:scared:
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 09:43 PM
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20. If the government is not doing anything about this
Edited on Wed Nov-23-11 09:46 PM by Politicalboi
Or it's in the works, they should at least set up a sperm/egg bank and hold the sperm/egg for as long as they need for free.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 09:49 PM
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21. Bring them ALL home and let the 1%ers fight their own fucking illegal wars themselves. nt
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 09:53 PM
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23. Send the
Banksters out there to do some mine detecting.

See how long it takes to stop this shit.
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 09:58 PM
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24. I hope the Pentagon re-thinks its position on landmines over this
...or that they are dragged back to the table and forced to rethink their position over this.

The soldiers getting wounded is bad enough - the twenty or thirty years of civilians getting it afterwards will be even worse.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 10:08 PM
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25. An organization against war should seriously start offering sperm bank insurance.
That alone will help the guys know what's going on, and I don't think there will be enough women to help them out.
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