5-Year-Old Handcuffed, Charged With Battery On Officer

[RamboLiberal]

STOCKTON, Calif. (KCRA) -- Earlier this year, a Stockton student was handcuffed with zip ties on his hands and feet, forced to go to the hospital for a psychiatric evaluation and was charged with battery on a police officer. That student was 5 years old.

Michael Davis is diagnosed with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder or ADHD. His mother says it has led to fights at school. But when the school district said it had a plan to change Michael's behavior, his mother says things went wrong.

"Michael is energetic," Thelma Gray said. "He is one big ball of energy."

Gray calls Michael a comedian. She says his biggest problem is his ADHD stops him from thinking before he acts or speaks.

Read more: http://www.kcra.com/news/29847063/detail.html#ixzz1eidcsF7a

Probably lucky he didn't get pepper sprayed or tased.

[FreakinDJ]

1. and they wonder why folks get pissed off at Teachers

and the TeaFarty uses them as a scapegoat

A 7 yr old can tell you this is wrong

[proud2BlibKansan]

3. It was a cop, not a teacher.

[FreakinDJ]

4. School called the Cop

Not to mention teachers are trained in behavioral modification and law enforcement is only trained in legal methods of brutality ....

Gray says the school, Rio Calaveras Elementary of Stockton, wanted to change that behavior by having Michael meet with a school police officer.

Read more: http://www.kcra.com/news/29847063/detail.html#ixzz1eiqsfwQg

Treating medical problems with Law Enforcement rarely ends well

[proud2BlibKansan]

5. The school, meaning the principal, made this decision.

It wasn't a teacher.

And no, teachers are NOT trained in behavioral modification. New teachers now get 5 weeks training in the summer before being put in classrooms.

[FreakinDJ]

7. Your right - they call it "Knowledge of ..."

Design and implement appropriate behavior management techniques for use in instructional and disciplinary purposes.

http://www.edjoin.org/jobDescription.aspx?descriptionID=10617

[Demit]

2. Brave cop. Guess he showed that 5 year old.

[newfie11]

6. maybe the cop should have kept his hands to himself! n/t

[FreakinDJ]

8. DING DING DING - We have a winner Folks

[razorman]

9. Maybe they just didn't bother to tell us that this 5-year-old is 6-ft-6, and weighs 240 pounds.

I think that would be about the only excuse for this treatment.

[pipi_k]

10. Like usual...

it's always the cop's fault.


I'll bet when that school principal called the cop to come out and talk to the boy, he didn't mention the kid's ADHD problem, and the cop probably thought it was just another case of a kid needing to be "scared straight".

The cop might not have recognized the kid's agitation for what it was. Maybe he thought a hand on the kid's shoulder would calm him down. Instead, it escalated the kid's behavior.

Faced with an out-of-control child who may end up hurting himself, what else can a person do but restrain him?

The cop was set up here, by a school that appears to KNOW about the kid's problems but didn't offer services because "it would cost the district money".

So flame away on the cop, people...it's always easy to do with the benefit of hindsight and the EXTREME benefit of not having been there oneself to deal with the situation.

:eyes:

[proud2BlibKansan]

11. Whatever happened to parental responsibility?

Watch the video. The mom is whining about wanting help from the school. Hello, it's a school and your kid obviously needs a DOCTOR.

For the life of me I don't understand why parents with kids who are this out of control don't get medical care for them. And you would be STUNNED by how often this happens. "Oh yes, he always throws fits when he doesn't get his way" And it takes the patience of a saint to keep from screaming at the parent "That's NOT okay. We don't throw fits to get what we want in life!"

In all fairness, the school messed up big time and is now in trouble with the feds. If they had done what they are supposed to do, they may not have needed to call the cops.

But parents like this woman who think the school can magically fix their children need to get a clue. Take your kids to the doctor. If you don't have health insurance, there are programs for children who are uninsured and need help.

[pipi_k]

12. Without knowing

my friend's similar struggles with her grandchildren, one might say the same thing.

What about the parental responsibility?

Well, my friend's daughter was a crack addict who abused her kids horribly. Forget responsibility there.

My friend got custody of them, but they were already badly damaged, emotionally.

I can't even begin to tell you how many doctors my friend took those kids to. First the boy, because he was worse than his sister. He would have violent fits. He tried killing his cousin in the backyard swimming pool. He was the kid in the story X 3.

Years and years of doctors and meds...tons of meds they tried. Treatment plans. Institutionalizing/hospitalizing. Sending him to special camp programs.

None of it worked, and the doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists, etc. declared the whole thing a failure and sent them on their way to be treated by someone else.

We don't know what the mom in that article did with respect to her child and his problems...what other help she tried to get him.

[proud2BlibKansan]

13. I'm thinking she hasn't done much

because she thinks the school can fix her kid.

I know how hard it is to help these children. I teach them. Kudos to your friend for what she is doing for her grandchildren. At least she understands she needs to take them to doctors.

Seriously, so many parents don't do squat and then get mad at the school when their child gets in trouble. It's almost an epidemic.

[A Simple Game]

14. Must have been another video on the site I didn't see. The video I

watched didn't have a "whining" mother on it.

You do realize many children are taught not to let strangers touch them, don't you?

You do realize the school is obligated to provide special help to disabled students, don't you?

You do realize the school admitted not wanting to spend money it was obligated to spend on the boy, don't you?

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. I mentioned that about the school in my post

But this is clearly a medical issue. Mom needs to take her child for MEDICAL help. There's only so much the school can do.

[A Simple Game]

17. We don't know if the mother took the child for MEDICAL help or not.

It is possible that the child could not take medication, we don't know from the information given in the article. Perhaps the mother feels that giving drugs to a 5 year old should not be a parents first choice, a sentiment that I and at least one psychologist and one medical professional that I know, happen to agree with.

We do know that the school said they would take care of the problem, hence the policeman laying hands on an already nervous and hyper child. This man obviously should not be working with small children, and I don't care if the school warned him of the child's problems or not. The fact that he took him for a psychological exam tells me he should be charged with practicing medicine without a license. Alright, that may be a bit hyperbolic.

You did mention the school in your post, I am sorry I didn't acknowledge it in my other post and do so now.

The mother may be negligent, but to say so from what is in this article is a very large stretch.

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. I will admit I am basing what I think on past experience.

And I've seen this too many times. Mom has an out of control kid, claims he's ADHD and wants the school to put him in special ed so he can be fixed. 90% of the time Mom has not taken the child to a doctor to get an actual diagnosis but just assumes he's ADHD. I've known a few who are convinced their child is bi-polar. One mom even told us no, she hadn't taken her child to a doctor but she saw this show on the Discovery Channel and it described her kid perfectly.

So I admit I'm making an assumption here - but it is based on what I have experienced.

The school never told this mom they would take care of the problem. The school should have (and admits this now) conducted an EDUCATIONAL evaluation to see if he qualified for any special ed services. The fact that they did not do this is alarming.

That being said, a great many ADHD children do not qualify for special education services. If they have not experienced any academic delays, they aren't 'disabled' under sped law and they don't get services. So to assume the school should provide services to 'fix' this kid is pretty naive.

As for the police officer touching the boy, I find nothing unusual about that. In an elementary school, there's lots of touching and hugging by kids. It seems to me that this child has a fear of police officers and that's not unusual. What was unusual was the boy's reaction. I also don't like that the police officer took him to a psychiatric facility but I wasn't there and don't know how out of control this child was. I've seen small children in very severe states of outrage and I can understand anyone assuming they needed to be in a hospital. The story says this boy has been throwing chairs. So I would imagine his rages were pretty intense.

Here's the bottom line for me - as a parent, if I had a child who was throwing chairs at school, I would run him to the nearest doctor as fast as I could get there. And I really don't think Mom did that. If she had, the doctor would have worked with the school and contributed reports to an evaluation. It's obvious none of that has happened for this little boy.

[A Simple Game]

23. It appears the school did tell the mother they would try to change the child's behavior.

From the original post, "But when the school district said it had a plan to change Michael's behavior, his mother says things went wrong." Hence the policeman's visit. Scared straight, or just scared? For a 5 year old it's easy to understand just scared. For pushing a cop on a 5 year old the school administrator should at least be reprimanded.

I would assume the school had advised her to take the child for evaluation. Most schools where I live have psychiatrists on staff at least part time and would have already done their own evaluation.

There is a lot of touching and hugging in schools, by familiar people, not strangers. And if he had an issue with someone in uniform, the officer should have respected it, got out and informed a school official, and not made things worse. Probably never should have been alone with him in the first place. Maybe he wasn't, now I am making assumptions.

[proud2BlibKansan]

25. Their plan to change the behavior was to have the cop talk to him.

And that's really not a plan. LOL

Schools around here don't have psychologists on staff. Don't know about where this child goes to school.

I also had the impression the cop was a resource officer in the school. I could be wrong though. :shrug:

[CreekDog]

24. Does she even have medical insurance or some that covers it?

Not a given. If you assume People have access to health care that's a bad assumption.

[Skip Intro]

20. Awesome post!

:applause:

[Occulus]

26. It was a disgusting post

and that poster has a long history of supporting police.

Not good.

[Skip Intro]

27. It was an awesome post with valid points.

That poster and this poster then support police. Are there some who exceed their authority or lose sight of their mission, sure, as there are in any profession. But I've said before and will say again, you couldn't pay me enough to put my life on the line daily as they do, and I'd hate to imagine what this country would look like without people who enforce the law.

[MrScorpio]

16. I'm surprised that the kid wasn't gang tackled by a dozen cops...

Tased and peppersprayed into submission.

I'm sure that the brave cop is going to get some kind of commendation for gallantry beyond the call of duty here.

[L0oniX]

19. HLS is keeping us safe.

[LeftyMom]

21. Knowing Stockton, I can guess what this kid looks like. *starts video* Yep.

Stockton is a shithole, and there's no way that a white subdivision kid with the same issues would have been treated like that.

[Divine Discontent]

22. yep!

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