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sixmile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 03:38 PM Original message |
Fake forum commenters 'eroding' trust in the web - BBC |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. Describing them as "people" is rather misleading. |
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sixmile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Ever debated a Troll? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 04:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Yeah, but obfuscating stupidity is different from paid astroturf. ;) nt |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 12:01 AM Response to Reply #12 |
179. I've seen a lot of really nasty ones on YouTube who sound like they could be Establishment shills... |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'm not worried. They'll try to automate it so as not to have to pay people |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. Commercials should be clearly labeled as such. nt |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
127. All your comment |
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phasma ex machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
5. How many fake forum commenting agents provocateurs does the BBC and other powers-that-be employ |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
63. As many red herrings as grow in the wood. |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
6. I think the vast majority are GOP paid operatives. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. If I managed a Marketing/PR firm For Corporate/Wall Street America, |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. If I were the GOP, and controlled the media, |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Help me out here. |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. How do you define "Alternative Media," exactly? |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Robb...Come On...Alternative Media is now many sites banned on DU... |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #28 |
61. How do we learn which sites are banned afrom mentioning (?) on D.U.? |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 08:37 PM Response to Reply #61 |
167. It's for "Some to Know" and "You and Me" not to know....??? |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 05:40 AM Response to Reply #61 |
187. I know of 2 ultra-right-wing sites that are forbidden to mention here. |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #187 |
199. Thanks, I found them. |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
84. Evasion. You know he's right. nt |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
165. Alternative media is not paid for by advertising or corporations. What's so hard about that? |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #165 |
201. There is no such beast. |
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phasma ex machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. "I have to search the Alternative Media to find any commentators from The Left." |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Wait - you were serious, then ? |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
80. Oh, me too. Please. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. +1...nt |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 11:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
37. we know how you feel about many of us |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
77. I should think a person paid to post by the GOP |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
88. 1+++ |
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ZenaD (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
100. So why are so many "centrist" commenters such condescending assholes? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
105. They already do that. The only 'democrats' I ever see on the MSM |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #105 |
125. Your posts consistently |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 05:24 AM Response to Reply #105 |
184. We have two kinds of media, Republican and establishment (whomever the establishment |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
140. 'divisive commentators on the left ' |
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ZenaD (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #140 |
161. I'd like them to identify one with a following in numbers that would have any impact on an election |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #161 |
163. It was rhetorical. |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
43. Isn't that what the DLC was designed to do? nt |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 05:29 AM Response to Reply #43 |
185. No. It was to neuter the Democratic Party. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #9 |
54. I strongly disagree. |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. Yep, "divide and conquer" |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #54 |
83. But for your theory to work |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #83 |
97. "Lifelong Dems" |
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ZenaD (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #97 |
109. "real grown ups in the big campaigns" huh? |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:58 PM Response to Reply #97 |
147. Ther gaping hole in your rebuttal is that... |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #147 |
154. Excellent post, thank you. |
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ZenaD (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #154 |
158. Paul Krugman, who was their BFF during the health care debate is now UTB |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 05:37 AM Response to Reply #147 |
186. Whaddaya tryin' to do? Kill a meme? |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 11:54 PM Response to Reply #97 |
178. Yeah, those "real grown-ups" here in Michigan sure promoted our last candidate. NOT. |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #83 |
99. Just because they are informed doesn't me they're immune to discouragement. |
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ZenaD (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #83 |
102. + a brazillion |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #83 |
129. Re "beholden", yeah, and We the People had absolutely nothing to do with the Dem's(or anyone-else's) |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #83 |
131. This is a damn good post. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #54 |
89. "...Work(ing) to co-opt..." can also result in being co-opted, another reason that it is avoided. It |
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ZenaD (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #54 |
106. Wow, if only the WH, DNC, DSCC, DCCC etc |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #106 |
110. Deleted message |
ZenaD (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #110 |
116. I'm not a believer in supernatural phenomena |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #54 |
112. So, can you give us some examples of these 'patterns' you see |
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ZenaD (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #112 |
117. Thank you. This is classic projection. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #112 |
139. Woo hooo! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 06:09 AM Response to Reply #139 |
191. "Party of Wall Street" |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 06:06 AM Response to Reply #54 |
190. Offering certain alternatives violates DU rules. |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
57. That appears to be the M.O., BVar. n/t |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
78. bvar22, it appears your strategy has been successfully employed. |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
79. Yeah. Relentlessly promote core GOP ideology under the "big tent" meme. |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
91. I agree with you, Bvar22. n/t |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
103. That's what I would do also. Infiltrate the party. |
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ZenaD (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #103 |
164. I really wish the DLC crowd would go back to the GOP where they belong |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
104. Looks like you smoked a few out |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 06:05 AM Response to Reply #9 |
189. Interesting video |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
35. + 1,000 |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
40. Remember the clumsy anti-Tibet posts from new, low count posters right before the 2008 Olympics? |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 07:26 AM Response to Reply #6 |
52. It's painfully obvious this is true in responses to news articles posted at RoadRunner. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
142. I agree. |
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lutefisk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
7. Remember all the "fake commentators" on DU during the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. yup |
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sixmile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Watch the Iran commenters across the interwebs |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. They stand out like a sore thumb as do Chinese commenters. |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 12:03 AM Response to Reply #10 |
180. I'd be especially wary of those fervently defending the government and/or bashing Israel.... |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. You meant THESE posts? |
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MichaelMcGuire (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. LOL You've summed them up in a nutshell |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #20 |
55. 'However, fakes can be spotted by analysing their patterns of activity and the words they use ... |
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Sal Minella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. And I'm wondering about the deadly exploding batteries in the |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 12:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
69. Or big phama. A few lurk regularly in the health forum |
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ZenaD (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
120. I've got some facebook friends who are pro-nuke zealots |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
143. THAT'S THE ONES! |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
17. They've swooped in destroyed Huffington Post... n/t |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Have you been over to "TPM's site recently? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 09:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
32. HuffPo destroyed itself with fluff and woo. |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 11:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. By selling out to AOL and not paying their writers. That was BS and made |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #32 |
66. True, but the paid trolls had already crapped the place up. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:19 PM Response to Reply #66 |
92. Point taken! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 06:00 AM Response to Reply #32 |
188. +1 |
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MichaelMcGuire (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
19. The bbc pretty much shuts off comment from their site anyway |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
21. The 1% have LOTS of money to pay for this sort of thing, and I guarantee |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 07:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. . |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. Yep. And their main objective is to stop OWS. There are no other threats |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #33 |
145. I agree with you. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
151. "They have no message." |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
25. Oh these "Bots" are all over the web on the most respectable of sites which one would |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
29. Gee, that doesn't sound like anyone here. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
30. I think this thread if just fucking hilarious.. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
31. We have a bunch of them here bashing Progressives. |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Oh please... |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Really? Really..... |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Somebody get this guy a helmet... |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 04:27 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Go back to sleep............... |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 07:03 AM Response to Reply #41 |
50. I can't remember what the topic was now |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #50 |
58. HFCS is big money, a major industry. |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 12:18 PM Response to Reply #58 |
73. I'll bet they succeed too.. and if by some miracle they don't win |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #73 |
150. It gets discouraging when they succeed at everything. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
146. There isn't? |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 11:30 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. +1 |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 05:51 AM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Yes, the Democratic party. Do you really think that pro-Obama posters are out of line |
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panzerfaust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 07:03 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Obama is solidly in the mainstream of the Democratic party - Sadly, This may be true |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 11:17 AM Response to Reply #49 |
59. Support of those issues would mean the democratic party offers a genuine alternative. n/t |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 06:23 AM Response to Reply #59 |
192. "A genuine alternative" is undesirable to financial markets; and the golden rule prevails. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 12:13 PM Response to Reply #46 |
70. The Democratic Party used to support "rights", |
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ZenaD (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #46 |
124. Free trade and austerity are mainstream Dem positions? |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
153. Americans, especially Democratic Party Americans, HATE |
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a simple pattern (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #39 |
60. You missed the memo! |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
96. How do you differentiate between "bashing" and horizontal processing? nt |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #96 |
108. LOL, WUT? |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #108 |
113. Horizontal, as in Occupation general assemblies, which include occupiers who disagree with one |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
166. Fucking kidding? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
34. Deleted message |
backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-11 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
42. Go to any article on any mainstream newspaper or news site... |
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a simple pattern (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #42 |
62. I noticed that, backscatter712 |
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Jim Warren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 05:54 AM Response to Original message |
47. Right here in River City |
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panzerfaust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 07:08 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. ??? The significance of this remark escapes me |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
95. DU must be designed wrong. |
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panzerfaust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 06:49 AM Response to Original message |
48. Information provided by random, unknown persons is not to be trusted?? |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
53. It's esp. obvious on smaller blogs – when there are virtually NO comments on post after post, |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
56. Don't they mean bought and paid for right wing posters. |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
64. Paid posters should be required to disclose the fact. It's advertising, disguised as speech. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
72. Agreed. Instead one dare not even ask the question |
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Response (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #64 |
87. That's one of the best ideas that I have heard on the subject. |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #87 |
200. I've often wondered why this area isn't regulated. Commerical speech should be transparent. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:28 PM Response to Reply #64 |
98. Much can be revealed by asking them questions. A poster can refuse to answer just so often before |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #98 |
114. That is true. Eg, anyone who will not support SS, Medicare |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #114 |
119. Oh! I'm a Medicare Reform supporter. Have SEEN it up close and personal. |
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ZenaD (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #119 |
128. So what does the proposed deep cut to providers have to do with eliminating fraud? |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #128 |
132. If you'll look at HR 676, I think you'll find payments in general to be reviewed, this would include |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #128 |
133. AND - This isn't just about fraud. Have you ever been around a CMS reporting system? |
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ZenaD (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #133 |
136. No I haven't. Can you explain how cuts to providers will adress that? |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. I think you can read the bill and decide for yourself, can't you? I have to take some food to our |
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ZenaD (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #137 |
141. HR676? Are we getting Medicare for all with this provider cut? |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #128 |
134. Physicians for a National Health Program: HR 676 Expanded & Improved Medicare for All Act |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #128 |
135. The point being, if cuts are appropriate, they'll be proportional to their in-efficiencies. |
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ZenaD (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #135 |
144. Heh |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #128 |
138. Please source "deep". Thanks! nt |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #119 |
152. Well, I didn't address that in my comment. My point was that |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #119 |
160. No one should be against your Medicare proposals. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 06:36 AM Response to Reply #160 |
193. Doing one's best to eliminate fraud and waste in a program is not "reforming" that program. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #193 |
197. Agreed. nt |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 06:39 AM Response to Reply #119 |
194. Please see Reply 195, |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #114 |
121. BTW, after passage of the ACA, Bernie Sanders said he supported Medicare reform and he |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #121 |
156. He does not support raising the age as is now being proposed. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #64 |
157. Plus one! |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
65. I call them on it when I run into them on my local paper's board. |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. I'm going to have to remember that one. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #68 |
101. Deleted message |
ZenaD (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #65 |
130. The editorials in the papers around here are nothing but regurgitated press releases. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
71. And the fakers here to direct what they don't like to other forums to keep attention off |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
74. One way to identify them; they generally post about a single issue, and never |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #74 |
94. Here's some great info from an earlier post on a different thread, |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #94 |
159. Wow. Fascinating. Thanks for that, hadn't seen it the first time around. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #94 |
169. There's a reason that earlier thread is in the Woo-Woo Dungeon...nt |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #169 |
172. No, the thread I'm speaking of was actually posted today, a bit after this one. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #172 |
174. Just following the link you provided in your post... |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 04:02 PM Response to Reply #74 |
148. LOL, Lorien. You nailed it. |
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Quartermass (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
75. The word troll is arguably one of the most overused words on the itnernet. |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. Somebody paid you to say that, didn't they? |
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jimlup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
76. We need a troll sub-species for these people. Anyone have a good name? |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 12:04 AM Response to Reply #76 |
181. Here's one: Stupidius trollius. xD |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
82. talk radio paid callers is good value. & citizens united money means going to see a lot more of both |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
85. remember - the one absolute proof of someone being a troll is that they deny being a troll |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #85 |
118. Lol! |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #85 |
162. Good one, Douglas. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 12:39 AM Response to Reply #85 |
183. LOL! n/t |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
86. Let's face it. Corporations all have their agents, provocateurs and crumbots. |
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PatrynXX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
90. I trust posters here and huffpo |
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darth marth (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
93. a couple more threads discussing this topic |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #93 |
107. Lol! you beat me by a minute |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #93 |
111. + a million - Should be required reading here. AND WE SHOULD DISCUSS this kind of stuff when we |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 08:59 PM Response to Reply #93 |
170. I laugh when posters pull threads from the Conspiracy Theory dungeon to try to prove their point... |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:49 PM Response to Reply #170 |
173. "Hey, look, ma! It's another red herring!" |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #173 |
176. BHN's thread wasn't posted in the Conspiracy Theory forum... |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 12:33 AM Response to Reply #176 |
182. And that proves what? That's actually extremely disturbing when you think about it. |
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Evasporque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #93 |
198. Fast simple rules to make your DU less polluted by paid trolls... |
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aletier_v (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
115. Won't work |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #115 |
123. Agree. Software won't work. You have to do it yourself. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
122. Here is my fool proof plan for messing with the corporatew poster. Figure out which industry |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
126. Another clue: anyone whose detailed knowledge of an industry or issue seems at odds with his "just |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:02 PM Response to Reply #126 |
171. "Anyone who posts anything in support of China's occupation of Tibet is a paid Chinese poster"... |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
149. Yes, I don't even bother anymore at the local paper.... |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
155. I remember reading a hilariously dishonest example a few months ago. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
168. Some of it, I think, is driven by a weird form of actual mental illness |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
175. Spot on... |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 11:34 PM Response to Reply #175 |
177. Ha! |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #177 |
195. Yup... |
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Populist_Prole (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #175 |
202. They'll post at wee-hours to have the "last word" for at least a few hours too. |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
196. I guess that's 62.43% of the people on DU including me |
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