We essentially have now a non functioning branch of government

[nadinbrzezinski]

This is now officially a constitutional crisis. It is not fun. it is not what most folks think one is. Functionally it is different than Watergate and very close to the crisis of 1859.

But that is what we now have...

What is the Chinese Curse? Oh yes, may you live in interesting times.

Oh and it may very well be also the beginnings of the unraveling of the Empire. Realize if they close down the government there is no money for gas or bullets, or food. There is of course this little problem with social security checks, as well as road services, and interstate weights and measures.

Of course your postal service.

The list is very long.

But the crisis is here. And I predict this will be quite painful, and rating companies will pay attention to this VERY FAST.

And if you are gonna celebrate, do so before the reality of how ugly this could be comes crashing down.

There are days I wish I was not living this nightmare, but what the hell... the time to back off from online forums, and get busy with local survival is coming... like a freight train.

[Statistical]

1. Hyperbolic nonsense. n/t

[Pholus]

3. Based on the last few threads I see "Hyperbolic" is a new word for the day... nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. It is as hyperbolic as it was back in 1996 when they did

pull that trigger. Were you then a member of the armed forces, for example?

I know people who were and this is potentially far worst than that one. After all then they still wanted to work and COMPROMISE.

[SidDithers]

5. Yup...nt

Sid

[RegieRocker]

2. Let me get this right....congress has stoped passing

ludicrous bills that hurt Americans. I am supposed to feel bad about this? Man it's PARTY TIME!

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. Do party until the reality comes crashing

right now they will do, perhaps, a continuing resolution until February... but will see,

Worst case, you won't be partying in six months if this goes for long.

[RegieRocker]

10. They can just keep printing money, to me it's worthless

anyway it's all an illusion. As long as the things I need can be bought by the fake money then I'm good. If everything comes crashing down I'm ready for that also for a good while. Nothing you or I can do about it. No one wants to risk anything and for that they risk losing it all. :-)

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. This goes beyond money

I realize it is hard to understand how serious this potentially can be.

As I said, keep celebrating...

I know the effects of the last time this happened. It wasn't pretty. I suspect this wil be far worst. We had a good economy then. We don't right now.

[BOG PERSON]

7. look on the bright side

did you know the chinese use the same word for "crisis" as they do for "opportunity"?

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. Oh absolutely there will be opportunities

there always is in the middle of a crisis.

Trust me, I am aware of that too.

:-)

[cherokeeprogressive]

8. The government is not going to shut down. n/t

[TexasObserver]

12. What is it you think constitutes this "constitutional crisis"?

[Uben]

13. Did I miss something? Don't know what you're talking about

What's the big crisis of which you speak?

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Look at the US senate and how they can't do a damn thing

This is well beyond politics as usual.

[Better Believe It]

19. The Senate just passed the worst and most dangerous tax bill in history

And you say they can't do a damn thing?

Wait until next year.

The bi-partisan budget cuts that will be proposed by the Senate and supported by President Obama.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. You just wait

yes, yes they did, since that was approved by elites.

But on things like keeping the guv'ment financed, you just wait.

[BzaDem]

14. "Realize if they close down the government there is no money for gas or bullets, or food."

They just agreed to work on and pass tomorrow a continuing resolution. No shutdown.

And even if this weren't the state of affairs, there was a shutdown in 1995. Somehow thinks kind of worked out (and that's putting it charitably).

Your dreams of crisis and revolution will (as always and forever will be) just that -- dreams.

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[nadinbrzezinski]

17. As well as ignored

I wish some of these crowed bothered opening a history book.

You were probably a kid, but the dress rehearsal for this was 1996... and I fear this will make that look like a walk in the park. Yes the Rs lost that one in slow motion... but I expect them to dig their heels further this time.

[cali]

26. yes, yes. everyone who disagrees with you

is ignorant of history. dogshit.

I find YOU are the one who knows vanishingly little about history- for all your talk about it.

[leeroysphitz]

18. Or three... n/t

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[Coyote_Bandit]

22. Ummmm......

The whole damn government is broken.

The failure is not limited to Congress.

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. Agreed, it is just most obvious on one

of the three branches.

On the edit, thanks for paying attention... and not just paying attention to the football game.

:hi:

[MineralMan]

24. You probably won't read this, since you say you put me on ignore.

Government is working just as the Constitution says. Congress is passing or not passing things, just as the Constitution says. The President is signing or vetoing bills, just as the Constitution says. The Judicial branch is deciding for or against Constitutional issues, just as the Constitution says.

You don't like what the three branches of government are doing. Neither do I. But they're following the Constitution and doing just what it describes that they should do.

If you feel like you're living in a nightmare, it may be good to shift your attention away from the government's actions for a while.

[cali]

25. You post the same lazy OP ad nauseum

No, we are not in the midst of a Constitutional crisis. And you're repeating it over and over again doesn't make it so- though, sooner or later you'll end up being right.