Egypt is on the Edge of Full-Blown Revolution

[JCMach1]

Yesterday's protests were massive. The government's campaign to quell social media has failed. Numerous technology work-arounds have insured that everything is still online.

Massive protests again for today.

You can watch it live on Twitter #Jan25

And just where is the State Department on this??? MIA

Just some blah statement about how the government should treat protesters.


Best quote so far:

"Yesterday we were all Tunisian. Today we are all Egyptian. Tomorrow we'll all be free" #Jan25 #Egypt RT @andreateti

[EFerrari]

1. They also said the Egyptian government should treat the protesters well

while pictures of tear gas made in America are being posted to the net.

[democrank]

2. Such an amazing story.

I wish Americans had half the courage. Just a comparative handful of us came out when our loved ones were dying in Iraq because of an outright lie. Millions sit silent while torture continues.

[JCMach1]

4. Amazing video here- Lone Protestor stands-up to Armored Vehicle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtTUsqra-MU

[xchrom]

3. recommend

[Catherina]

5. I'm gonna be dancing all day now. Administration's response was noted in Egypt.

soraida_fae RT @monasosh: We need doctors to head to hisham mobarak, 3 badly injured and we need help #jan25 less than a minute ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

lenguaraz RT @NohaAtef: A friend of mine in Tahrir (#Cairo) confirms that women outnumber men in the sit in there! ;) even if not accurate, I like it! #Jan25 less than a minute ago via web

# Picture_om_normal razaniyat I really really cannot stand and forgive Hillary Clinton for her outrageous statements on #sidibouzid and #jan25 less than a minute ago via TweetDeck

marwame The police arresting people in tahrir square in cairo are high ranking officers. #jan25 1 minute ago via Snaptu

# Dsc02725_normal abdullahali7 RT @SherineT: #Egypt Interior Min: NO more protests will be allowed;Security forces exercised restraint for hours:protestors attacked our forces #Jan25 less than a minute ago via Nambu

# 59916_435665489290_511364290_4822530_6478347_n_normal adamakary Interior ministry released a pretty harsh statement warning protesters that last night will never happen again #jan25 half a minute ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

hothotsa RT @ManarMohsen: RT @NoureenRamzy: RT @shmpOngO: Thousands are protesting in Mossadaq street, Dokki, Giza. #Jan25 less than a minute ago via Snaptu

Orisian RT @blogsofwar: RT @Zeinobia live ammunition is reportedly being used in the protests #Egypt #Tahrir #Jan25 less than a minute ago via web

Orisian RT @blogsofwar: RT @NevineZaki These are NOT rubber bullets! #Jan25 http://yfrog.com/h8tc1vj 1 minute ago via web

# Manchester_fire_normal Geetas75 RT @fustat: R @BBCWorld Egypt's interior ministry says anyone joining a second day of anti-government demonstrations will be prosecuted (AFP) #Jan25 less than a minute ago via web

# Twitterprofilephoto_normal Eubuleus RT @blogsofwar: RT @weddady The info I am getting: government canceling cell phone numbers of ppl/activists known to be organizing #Jan25 half a minute ago via TwitBird iPad

abdullahali7 RT @jrug: Protests called for noon but Egypt Interior Ministry declaring them illegal/say will prosecute - govt wants last night to be it. #Jan25 less than a minute ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

ShaimaStreet RT @marwame: Security forces randomly arresting/kidnapping people in tahrir square in Cairo now. #jan25 half a minute ago via Snaptu

MODERN1ST RT @Dima_Khatib: Protesters are reported to break through police barriers & cordons in several areas of Cairo #JAN25 #Egypt #Sidibouzid less than a minute ago via web


# 0f2a506a-f1bf-40a2-b1d8-31e99843b735_normal Novinha56 RT @RHelmii: @Sandmonkey we are on the way HUGE numbers get readyy !#jan25 less than a minute ago via TweetDeck

Auc_logo_normal KimFoxWOSU RT @diptychal: So far the two ways that have worked getting on twitter in Cairo are VPN Express on iPhone/iPad and Tor on computer #Jan25

[JCMach1]

6. It was a very weak reponse, I agree... Egyptians have noticed

[Catherina]

9. Another comment from Egypt. This one even more accurate

L_badikho @juliansarkSD6 "Egyptian regime is stable" "they are handling the protests and trying to satisfy people's needs" blabla like this #Jan25 half a minute ago via Seesmic Desktop

[JCMach1]

8. Apparently America still makes something

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[Catherina]

10. I'm sure that's not going to go unnoticed or unappreciated either.

How terribly sad.

[aquart]

35. They're blaming Hillary Clinton for American policy?

How unsophisticated.

[aquart]

38. You're going to be dancing? 11 dead and counting.

So few means the government still thinks it will settle down. They haven't begun to get serious. IRAN IS EXECUTING AN AVERAGE OF ONE PERSON/PROTESTOR EVERY EIGHT HOURS and its been over a year since their peaceful, unarmed revolt.

You dance, it will be on mass graves. This isn't a party.

[JCMach1]

7. Egyptian Stock Market Crashes... loses 21 billion in first 15min.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-26/egyptian-stock-market-tumbles-4-6-pct-on-protests.html

[Catherina]

11. It's the sound of government panic.

7mehdi5 RT @arwasm: Police sirens everywhere. It's the sound of government panic. The final calls for dear life! #Egypt #jan25 less than a minute ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

[JCMach1]

13. Someone also commented that Mubarak's cronies were pulling out their money in case they have to RUN!

[aquart]

33. Foreign money is pulling out.

The question is, where is it going?

[Hardrada]

12. I support an end to tyranny there but are American nationals in any peril?

Or our CIA/Mossad "assets?"

[JCMach1]

14. Al Jazeera now has a gallery up from 1/25

http://english.aljazeera.net/photo_galleries/africa/2011125192646189116.html

[apocalypsehow]

15. If Egypt indeed does go to "Full-Blown Revolution," it is unlikely to be the kind amenable to

progressive ideology, let alone Western liberal ideals.

If Mubarak is toppled, Religious Fundamentalists in that country - long suppressed, since the days of the assassination of Anwar Sadat - will ultimately, it is almost certain, take power. I will be very interested to see then, if this same enthusiasm for Egyptian "revolution" still prevails hereabouts, particularly when they start doing things hard-line religious fundamentalist regimes seem to always start doing when they seize power - things like suppressing free speech, curtailing religious freedoms for any outside their own narrow doctrines of "truth," hanging gays, stripping women of their civil and human rights, issuing murderous "God-sanctioned" decrees, etc., etc.

Yes, very interested, indeed.

[Fumesucker]

16. Yep, I suspect Egypt will end up rather like Iran..

An "Islamic Republic" that will be hostile to the west and to many of what we like to think of as "human rights".

[apocalypsehow]

18. I say this with complete sincerity, given our (frequent) disagreements in the past: I agree with

you 100%, my friend & fellow DU'er. :beer:

:thumbsup:

[Fumesucker]

Glad we can find something to agree on..

I wish it were something more positive though.

:hi:

[Catherina]

17. You can't speak for everyone. I fully support self determination

whether it suits US interests or not.

[apocalypsehow]

19. "I fully support self determination" - Get back with me when they start hanging Gays, as they have

been doing at a steady clip in Iran since 1979, and the culmination of that same kind of glorious "Revolution" that has led to such, such enlightened "self determination" there... I'm sure you'll have some ready explanation for why that kind of "self determination" is just what the Doctor ordered in Egypt, too, then. Or not.

:eyes:

[Catherina]

20. What part of "I fully support self determination" did you not understand? n/t

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[aquart]

37. Yeah, but remember the response to the church bombing.

Muslims volunteered to stand and guard the Coptic churches. Egypt isn't Iran. It isn't Tunisia. Don't assume we know yet what form their revolt will take. They may all start the same way, but these are very different nations.

[JCMach1]

21. There is actually a chance that Egypt could end-up with a secular, non Islamic Brotherhood

government if a secular revolution goes forward.

[apocalypsehow]

25. There is about an 0.0000001% chance of that...as anyone who (both) knows the history of the region,

and keeps up with current events in the Middle-east clearly understands...

[JCMach1]

27. Meh!?! sorry I live here

and I beg to differ... The unhappy middle is the silent majority of the Arab world. The current wave of protests are not (at the moment) being fueled by Islamism.

Which, yes, is a bit of a shock. That's why Egypt is the important test case... These were the people the old regimes relied on to keep them in power.

[apocalypsehow]

28. Sorry, but whether you "live there" or not makes no difference: if Mubarak falls, there will not be

a secular government in Egypt for the next thousand years, barring an outside military intervention from the non-Islamic world involving five million troops, and every Western Navy in the world parking itself in the Mediterranean for about a generation.

But you get back with me, the day my prediction goes South.... :hi:

[JCMach1]

29. This is a different animal entirely...

So, I will take you up on your bet. B-)

[apocalypsehow]

30. Happy to oblige - and I honestly hope & pray *YOU*, not I, end up being correct.

But I highly doubt it will turn out so.

Here's to hoping it does turn out as you predict (but I still stand by my bet): :toast:

[aquart]

34. LOL! Sure, kid. That's the ticket.

Me, I'm just hoping they'll annex Gaza.

[aquart]

36. Possibly. Doesn't look like a religious deal yet.

This revolt is on bread and butter issues, not holier than thou. The problem is that a twitter revolution hasn't got any leadership. Yet.

[muriel_volestrangler]

22. BBC: Egypt protests: Ban on anti-government demonstrations

Egypt has banned street protests, one day after thousands of people joined a "day of revolt" against the government of President Hosni Mubarak.

Public gatherings, protests and marches are all now prohibited, the country's official news agency reports.

Anyone joining in unauthorised action will be detained and prosecuted, the interior ministry said.
...
The BBC's Jon Leyne reported that some protesters began gathering again early on Wednesday.

He said there were few signs of a heavy police presence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12283849

Whether they'll be able to enforce that 'ban' remains to be seen.

[JCMach1]

24. This will mostly play out over several days... Watch out on FRIDAY

[Catherina]

26. According to this, the ban isn't working

# Momo_and_zayn_normal malihahasan2 RT @tamersalama: Egypt protests: 30k in Alexandria, 50k in Cairo, 6k in Mansoura, more in Aswan, Quina, Arish, Mahala. No media cvrg, Twitter blocked #jan25 half a minute ago via Twitter for iPhone


Edit to add

# Ea_logo2_normal EANewsFeed #Egypt LiveBlog: Min of Interior - Street demos & public gatherings now officially banned http://tinyurl.com/5um5lm7 #Jan25 #SidiBouzid half a minute ago via TweetDeck

[Citizen Worker]

31. Is this tsunami building only to be choked off at the Straits of Gibraltar? Or will it flow through

the straits and across the Atlantic?

[aquart]

32. Once again, we are allies of EGYPT.

As cool as you think it would be to support an amorphous lump of protesters, we haven't a clue who they are or what they specifically want. And guess what? If they're like us in any way, they all want different things. THIS IS NOT FOR US TO SORT OUT. When THEY decide what their government is going to be, we will deal with it then.

It is the height of American arrogance to believe we should be carrying water for someone else's revolution. In fact, I can't think of a quicker way to destroy it.

American teargas was used yesterday and will be today. They have enough of our help.

[Catherina]

39. Protest still going on. Video from early this morning (Wednesday AM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSNXoPG6LGA


PrinceofRazors RT @jonjensen: More must-see video from #Jan25 - the police reclaim Tahrir early this morning. Tear gas, arrests & beatings in Egypt http://t.co/q78GSUB