BREAKING: M$NBC Police & Swat surround Texas Health Clinic

[justiceischeap]

http://www.kktv.com/news/headlines/Possible_Hostage_Situation_At_Texas_Hospital_114797614.html?ref=614

A possible hostage situation is underway at a Fort Worth hospital, just miles from Cowboys Stadium, where a suspicious package was found around 8 a.m. CST.

It’s unknown if the two incidents have any relationship.

Police and a SWAT team have surrounded a JPS Health Clinic on the city’s south side, on the 2500 block of Circle Drive, not far from I-20 and I-35. Police were first sent to the scene on a report of a man with a gun. Eyewitnesses say that there are hostages inside, but that has not been confirmed. JPS says that while there is a situation, they cannot confirm specific details.

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1. recommend

[Cleita]

2. How are those gun laws working for Texans there? n/t

[cleanhippie]

4. What law would prevent what is being described?

[Frosty1]

9. Maybe require new gun buyers to have permits?

Like Minnesota does and the Rethugs are trying to repeal already.

House panel votes to repeal state gun law (Minnesota - Gun permit requirement repealed)
In a show of new Republican strength at the State Capitol, a House panel Wednesday voted to repeal Minnesota’s gun permit requirement, saying it unnecessarily duplicated federal laws

By a 10 to 7 vote, the proposal would repeal a state requirement that anyone wanting to buy a handgun or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon from a federally-licensed dealer must first obtain a state permit.

The measure, which now goes before another House committee, was passed over loud protests from DFLers, gun law advocates and police officer associations. But Rep. Tony Cornish, R-Good Thunder, the panel’s chair who showed up at the meeting carrying a briefcase that featured a large sticker that said “Crime Control Not Gun Control”, promised before the 90-minute meeting began that he had the votes to pass the initiative.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/114656874.html

The more gun control advocates scream, the more we win.

[cleanhippie]

11. I would support a one-time NICS check at the Federal level

with universal acceptance in all states, for the first-time purchaser. Subsequent purchases would only require to show card, renewed every 5 years, but not a registration of every gun purchased.
As I understand it, my CCW permit here in WA state, does just that. During application, a background check is performed. It is a shall-issue state, meaning that if nothing shows on a background check, the state shall issue the permit. I only need to shows that permit when purchasing a gun, any gun, to prove to the dealer I had, in fact, passed a BG check. I have to renew it every 5 years.
I would support a Nationwide permit that follows the same fashion.

[Frosty1]

15. I agree

That sounds perfectly acceptable to me.

[cleanhippie]

16. Well, allright!

:toast:

Unfortunately, many on DU don't think that is enough and that only taking all guns from the law abiding population is the answer.

[Frosty1]

17. Ain't that the truth

And many on Du think there should be no gun laws.

[cleanhippie]

18. Really?

I have never seen anyone claim that. Can you provide any examples of someone saying that?

[Frosty1]

19. I say that because the NRA and others

seem to fight tooth and nail against any gun control measure that is proposed instead of using common sense about gun laws like you seem to be able to.

[cleanhippie]

21. But thats not what you stated, you stated many on DU do not want any gun laws.

And many on Du think there should be no gun laws

And I told you that I had not seen anyone on DU state that and asked if you could point to any examples of that. Are you now retracting that statement?


And the NRA doesn't want any gun laws? Actually, you will find that the NRA shares pretty much the same ideas you and I do.
In fact, the NRA would LIKE to see the ideas we agreed on and talked about. They would also LIKE to see the 20,000+ gun control laws we already have on the books ENFORCED. Perhaps you need to go take another look at what the NRA actually wants and supports. You just might have a different opinion if you did.

[Frosty1]

20. Now go tell that to the NRA

Maybe if they would propose and endorse sensible gun legislation
it would make a lot more people happy.

[cleanhippie]

22. Actually, you will find that the NRA shares pretty much the same ideas you and I agreed on.

And the NRA is an advocacy organization. They do not propose laws, they protect rights.

[get the red out]

10. Oh but they need a new law

requiring all medical staff to come to work armed just in case a shoot out is necessary.

:sarcasm:

[browntyphoon]

23. It's against the law to carry at hospitals in TX, laws are useless. See: Pot

[jsamuel]

3. Do they perform abortions at that clinic?

[justiceischeap]

5. It is a Women's health clinic but nothing obvious on their website about abortion services n/t

[BadgerKid]

6. "Nothing obvious" can mean "yes". n/t

[justiceischeap]

7. Which, IMO, is smart (eom)

[w8liftinglady]

8. i doubt very seriously that they do them "on site"(I'm a Texan - remember?"

There are several centers that provide safe, legal preganancy termination in Ft Worth.This,I do not believe , is one of them.
the guy COULD be a nut who thinks it is.

[LanternWaste]

13. JPS Health System is the county hospital

JPS Health System is the county hospital for Tarrant County. I would imagine (but do not have absolute knowledge) that that Woman's Health Clinic is part and parcel of the county health system

I'm not well-versed enough to know if that does or does not rule out abortion services.

[Maru Kitteh]

12. And the war on women continues. n/t

[MicaelS]

14. No Barricaded Man at JPS Clinic / No Bomb at Stadium

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local-beat/Armed-Man-Believed-to-be-Barricaded-at-JPS-Hospital-114797679.html

Fort Worth police said the search for a man believed to be armed and barricaded inside the John Peter Smith Health Center South Campus in Fort Worth, turned up nothing.

Police said they set up a perimeter around the clinic after an employee said she thought she saw a black male wearing a black sweatshirt with a long gun enter the clinic at about 7:45 a.m.

Lt. Paul Henderson with the Fort Worth Police Deparment said employees inside the building locked down and sheltered in various offices. Police said there were approximately 12 people in the building at the time of the call.

Police officers searched the building and were unable to locate a gunman or a gun, but said they took precautions because they believed the employee was credible.

Only Trash Found Inside Manhole Near Stadium

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/sports/Suspicious-Device-Found-Near-Cowboys-Stadium-114796074.html

The 900 block of Randol Mill Road in front of Cowboys Stadium was closed for an hour or so Friday due to an unattended package call.

Officials from the Arlington Bomb Squad and HAZMAT teams arrived to investigate the device, but Arlington police said they found only trash and normal debris in the storm drain.

"There is no device ... other than routine trash that you'd get off the street, that's it," said Jim Self, Assistant Chief with the Arlington Fire Department. "We've been practicing this kind of response for several years now. It went very smoothly. This is a standard response and something we would have done anywhere in the city of Arlington."

The device, or what was thought to be a device, was reported to police by on-site security who said they saw someone dispose of something in the storm drain.